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04-16-2008, 11:15 PM | #1 |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score So, without bothering to search or do the research myself... how do you guys do this? I'm picturing someone doing a CSI-esque cotton swabbing during an oil change, carefully placing the swab in a tiny plastic ziploc bag, and mailing it off to some lab somewhere in northern Montana. And how much do you pay for the report or whatever? |
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__________________ Cosmic Blue Mica 2007 MS3 GT- MSCAI, HT, E-Focus RMM, FSDs, JBR Rear ARB and billet mounts Hellrot 1995 318ti Club Sport- Turner/Conforti chip, Turner SS clutch line, UUC Motorwerks pedal bushings, clutch stop, and RK II Desert Sand Pearl 1999 Wrangler Sahara- Banks SS Exhaust manifold, Hella H4 E-Codes, Bilstein HDs Fireball Orange 1996 Speed Triple 900- Alcon six-pot front calipers, Sebring 3 into 1 "Off Road" exhaust | |
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| Anyone got the UOA on RP? I guess ill order the Sump pump from blackstone.
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The pump is pretty trick; it's designed so that the oil is pumped directly into the sample bottle and the pump itself never touches the oil. The .25" plastic icemaker tubing the pump uses is so cheap-seven cents per foot-that it's not worth cleaning and re-using the tubing.
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| I ordered a sample kit and a pump today. So im going to send them in my oil.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Here's my analysis from a few weeks ago. Taken at 11,000 miles, 4,000 on the oil. I used 5w30 Pennzoil Platinum, and it seems to be doing a great job. I'm gonna extend the interval out a bit to 5,000 this time and then do another analysis to see if the oil can hold up that long. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Im reading a lot about shear down. Just some thing to think about. The old Mazda 3 manual specd. 5W 20 for turbo and non turbo. Mazda then changed it to 5W 30 for the turbo and 5W 20 for non turbo. Begin speculation: Maybe, just maybe, this was because of sheardown. The 5W 20 was shearing down to an oil below design spec 5W 10, so Mazda upped the turbo spec to 5W 30 so it would shear down to the correct design spec of 5W 20 during use? Personally I wouldnt get all wrapped up in it, use the 5W 30 and let it sheardown to 5W 20....... maybe that is what it is supposed to do!?? |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Here is the latest UOA on my MS3 as well as the two prior tests. I think that the Mobil 1 5W-30 holds up pretty well- in my case, anyway. The weekend before this latest oil change I spent three days at Putnam Road Course, where @1.5 hours per day were spent lapping the 1.766 mile track. Engine speed remained between 3000-6000 rpm throughout each 30 minute session. Ambient temps ranged from 70F-90F. From the soot on the tailpipe and rear fascia-the MS3 looked like a diesel-I did not expect such good results. Engine 2.3L Turbo, direct injection Miles on engine 19955 Miles on oil 5182 Date sampled 7/10/08 Make Up Oil 0.5 qt. OEM Mazda Filter Mobil 1 5W-30 Aluminum 3 Chromium 1 Iron 34 Copper 11 Lead 2 Tin 0 Moly 92 Nickel 0 Manganese 1 Silver 0 Ti 0 Potassium 1 Boron 50 Silicon 12 Sodium 14 Calcium 2683 Magnesium 17 Phosphorus 698 Zinc 863 Barium 0 Sus Visc @ 210F 55.8 should be 55-62 cST Visc @ 100 C 9.01 should be 8.8-11.1 Flashpoint in F 390 should be >365 Fuel % <0.5 should be <2.0 Antifreeze 0.0 Water % 0.0 should be <0.1 Insolubles % 0.3 should be <0.6 TBN 3.2 Prior Results: Miles on engine 14630 Miles on oil 4632 Date sampled 04/08/08 Make Up Oil 0 OEM Mazda Filter Mobil 1 5W-30 Aluminum 4 Chromium 1 Iron 34 Copper 29 Lead 1 Tin 0 Moly 91 Nickel 0 Manganese 1 Silver 0 Ti 0 Potassium 2 Boron 53 Silicon 11 Sodium 9 Calcium 2400 Magnesium 12 Phosphorus 635 Zinc 787 Barium 1 Sus Visc @ 210F 55.2 should be 55-62 cST Visc @ 100 C 8.83 should be 8.8-11.1 Flashpoint in F 390 should be >365 Fuel % <0.5 should be <2.0 Antifreeze 0.0 Water % 0.0 should be <0.1 Insolubles % 0.3 should be <0.6 TBN 3.0 Miles on engine 9838 Miles on oil 5046 Date sampled 12/31/07 Make Up Oil 0 OEM Mazda Filter Mobil 1 5w30 Aluminum 4 Chromium 1 Iron 40 Copper 83 Lead 2 Tin 0 Moly 80 Nickel 1 Manganese 1 Silver 0 Ti 0 Potassium 2 Boron 38 Silicon 12 Sodium 6 Calcium 2634 Magnesium 11 Phosphorus 624 Zinc 808 Barium 2 Sus Visc @ 210F 56.2 should be 55-62 cST Visc @ 100 C 9.13 should be 8.8-11.1 Flashpoint in F 375 should be >365 Fuel % <0.5 should be <2.0 Antifreeze 0.0 Water % 0.0 should be <0.1 Insolubles % 0.4 should be <0.6 TBN 2.9
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Nope, my dealer(Kings Mazda in Cincinnati) provides that with every new Mazda purchase. I have to provide the synthetic oil, but I still like to let them do it since the job is such a pain compared to my other cars.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Long Beach Mazda has the free oil changes thingy if you buy something else (overpriced) extra. I think it was thier security system or something of the sort. I imagine they are not the only dealership doing this. Say 30$ an oil change and you keep the car for 100K miles, it only saves you 1k. Thier cost is much lower, and that is only if you are religious about 3K mile oil changes. They were very pushy and tried to sell me on a "limited availability" markup on the car and wouldn't budge, so I drove 10 more miles and got what I wanted. It is certainly a buyers market for cars in the LA area. |
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| Good deal. My experience was quite pleasant with my Mazda dealer in Hunt Bch. I usually buy Fords and they were pretty pushy. I would just get up and walk out.. Ford dealerships are a dime a dozen.
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