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06-21-2009, 11:25 AM | #1 |
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(Thread Starter) | Neutral : +1 score Oil restrictor bolt install PICS ARE GONE, SORRY! First, remove the stock TMIC cover. 2 ten mm head bolts. Next, remove the TMIC nuts (12mm head) and loosen the upper hose connection on the TMIC inlet from the turbo (10mm head). Then, pull the TMIC off of the mounting studs and push forward enough to let you reach the heatshield. Remove the 5 heatshield bolts (8mm head). Pull the heatshield out. It's tight, but it will fit past everything. Now, you can remove the stock banjo bolt (can't really see it from this angle, but it's straight down from the driver's side rear of the TMIC, on top of the turbo. DO NOT FORGET TO REUSE THE 2 STOCK COPPER SEALING WASHERS! One on top of the banjo fitting and one below!!! Better view of where the bolt will be as shown on my PTP SST. UPDATE 9-4-2012
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score This post will take you through how to make your own restrictor bolt from a regular M12x1.5 pitch bolt. Below shows the part number of the bolt you need. I got these from Advance Autoparts store. They had to order them in this length for me (30mm length). This is the bit I used from True Value Hardware store. #52 is roughly .0635" in size. Drill the small side hole first with the #52 bit. Center punch the bolt about 4 threads down from the head. You only need to drill about halfway though or so on this hole to meet the center hole you'll drill next. Do it this way first because if you don't, you run the risk of breaking the bit if you drill the center hole first (bits tend to break when they drill through the far side of the drilled material) Drill the center hole last. I used a 15/64" bit for the center hole I believe. That about it. I used a small deburring rasp made for making custom sized carb jets to take the side holes out to about .065", but just deburr the best you can with the bit itself and you'll be fine.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score sweet nice write up man and good work on fixing this annoying problem its about damn time somebody figured it out. I will be getting one from you friday when i get payed to go along with my saikou michi catch can and hopefully that will stop my 09 from smoking and all i have is a test pipe.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score In the last picture, it's the Top gold colored bolt, correct? A banjo bolt in the pball world looks like the one on the side that looks to be an allen head screw. |
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EDIT: Here's what a banjo body looks like in the automotive world. Used at brake line connections, clutch connections, oil fittings, etc. Also used a lot in the hydraulic industry.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score thanks, but i meant more like, what is this? what am i reading about and what does this do... pardon my ignorance |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score If I am not mistaken he is trying to reduce the amount of oil going into the CRHA. I think he is trying to reduce the amount of oil being burned. Hence his other thread but I could be wrong. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score mine should be here tomorrow thank god my car is smoking a lot lately. are you using grade 8 bolts?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score No more smoke Well i just got through installin my bnoon bolt (im claiming that term) and no more smoke. Just for good measure i let my car idle for about two minutes before i installed it and guess what, after two minutes blue smoke was pouring out the back, big surprise and i only have a test pipe. The install was pretty easy and once i fired her back up and let it sit for 8 minutes, not a puff of smoke at all. I am concerned though about one thing, the stock bolt has a small hole drilled all the way through it near the head, the bolt i got from bnoon only has a hole in one side of the bolt that doesnt go all the way through.... is everyone else's who got one of these like that? I hope i dont have to go uninstall all this shit because my bolt was fucked up.... but anyway if it was intentional good fucking job man im glad somebody finally figured this shit out. I also have a saikou michi catch can installed which seems to help in the process according to bnoon. Im glad i got one of these while they lasted...
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Yes, it's supposed to only be drilled on one side to restrict flow down to .065".
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| Neutral : +1 score awesome man thanks a lot.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I really appreciate you doing this....I now feel secure with my OCC, thicker oil, 900 idle and now bnoon-bolt.
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Anyone else installed their bolt yet? Any troubles?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I'm interested in one of your bolts, but I hear you don't ship to Canada...lemme know if that changes.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I will do it for actual shipping charges now. I talked to the UPS Store today and got setup so that it won't take me so long to ship international items.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score Yes, I can still make these. I've had them on EBay from time to time too. Paypal is brad@bnmotorsports.com, just make sure to PM me if you send funds as I don't check that email account very often anymore.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score looking for a bit of advise, my car has never smoked and I don't have the bnoon bolt currently installed, however I do have the PTP PVC restrictor on the car. Now I have a DP and there is never any smoke. Should I install the bnoon bolt or just leave well enough alone ? THANKS
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| Not Ranked : 0 score so, pls forgive the possible newbie question, but my take on this is that we have to restrict the oil flow to the CHRA of the stock turbo? And we KNOW that 065 is the correct size? Is/was there any thought on UNDER oiling the turbo? Also, does it have to be in the bolt itself or is it just anything in the oil feed line/bolt/banjo fitting itself? Thanks for the great effort!
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I have already ordered the PTP Fix and hopefully it will be here soon. Should I get one of your bolts as well (Bnoon)?? How do I order one of your bolts?
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My trials are documented on this site as to what I did to get rid of the oil/smoke burning issue due to crankcase overpressurization. Thicker oil, catch can, second PCV... even the PTP pill works all of the time except on trailing throttle, which my bolt gets rid of, so I run both. I'm currently working with electric vacuum modules to increase vacuum on the crankcase, especially under boost. Also need to prove/disprove that the stock PCV valves don't seal under boost well enough. Stay tuned... eventually.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Thanx. As well, I have done some research on this issue with other cars as I have been involved with turbo Talons for 8 years or so now. People who have upgraded thier turbos to certain kinds often end up with smoking issues due to over oiling. It turns out that, yes, too much inlet oil is a bad idea, but ALSO having adequate oil drainage is just as important. I have not had a chance to look at the drain tube on the MZR yet. Is this adequate?
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| Not Ranked : 0 score i sent you a pm bnoon about ordering one i just ordered my ptp pcv fix and im gonna change my oil to a thicker one any recommendations? How does 5w-40 sound and which brand should i use? Thanks, Alex |
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Two feed holes, about .090 or .095 on both holes if I remember right.
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