Stay away from XTR Performance /NewAgeAutoparts/ NewAgeAutoparts.com /Facebook Users Nate Baumberger Joey Lokken

[GODspeed7]

Ok guys here comes the story. I used to be an admin of mazdaspeed 3 owners group on facebook. I am no longer, but that's a different story for another day. Well one of the members was asking about clutch and flywheel options. I told them that I just bought a Luk clutch kit off of amazon for $181 and a Fidanza Flywheel from Edge autosport for $335 all shipped for free and how this was the best deal. Well XTR nate is an admin at mazdaspeed owners group on facebook (confusing as fuck I know) and a few minutes later I received these PM's from him on facebook uploadfromtaptalk1397698603574.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698627318.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698653050.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698673635.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698688185.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698701868.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698714513.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698732735.jpg
So I pretty much let this slide although now I am convinced this guy is a douche but whatever. The straw that broke the camels back was what he did today. He posts this on his facebook page. uploadfromtaptalk1397698883576.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397698913314.jpg yes that's right. He used a picture of Rob Finkles car who has no affiliation with XTR Nate or XTR performance, taken by a professional photographer, who did not give permission to XTR nate or XTR performance in order to boost their sales. And the worst thing is , they see nothing wrong with it. They think rob should feel honored that they are giving him publicity. So a long argument ensues with some of his nut swinging dick riding fans and then I get banned. I then decide to let XTR performance know about nates actions. This was their response to me uploadfromtaptalk1397699165641.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397699178766.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397699191676.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397699204346.jpguploadfromtaptalk1397699218814.jpg so this is why I think XTR performance and XTR nate whatever his real name is, has no business in the Mazda community. They should never have vendor status and all of the sheep that follow this wallet mechanic and wallet tuner should wake up and see this shady company for what they really are. @Raider; @Haltech;

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[GODspeed7]

Someone feel free to tag that pussy bitch nate and let him explain his actions of himself and his company. You can block me on facebook bit you can't hide from me on here. Welcome to the thunder dome bitch.

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http://12most.com/2013/03/26/ensure-...online-photos/
Here is the law regarding copy rights. They don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

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[Raider]

Those cunts lost any respect from me when they tried to get some stance loving kid trolled because the kid asked BC to beat the quote XTR gave, which ended up being below the Manufacturer's Authorized Price. They then posted the email from BC telling em that since it was the 2nd offense, their rate to buy from BC is going up.

I'll find screenshots tomorrow.
update: http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ml#post2545969
Oh, and

[GODspeed7]

Tag nate for me please. Bring him in here.

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[Agent_Orange]

What a fucking douche nozzle.

Was Rob made aware of this?

@rfinkle2;

[GODspeed7]

Yes he was. He said he didn't mind as long as it didn't get out of hand. I know rob can stand up for himself but I dont like many of their shady sales tactics and this just hit home to one of my buddies. That photographer is getting his work stolen from him. And I tried being nice and telling them this was illegal and then here came the backlash from his dick riders.

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I think he meant as long as they weren't whoring his car out as a supporter but I can't speak for rob. I am calling them out on my behalf not robs.

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[calizoomzoom]

This has been my entertainment for most of the day on Facebook.. lol.. carry on fellas..

[alphasaur]

meh

[rfinkle2]

I really appreciate Rich's thoughts more than anything.

Mike Neary (Mike@stratified) was the photographer and probably has a better handle on what should / can't be used as advertisement, and even more importantly, if he wants his photos pimped as an advertisement.

If I was asked before someone wanted to use an image of my car, I usually would say sure, but in this case, it is kinda wacky that Nate used it without just quickly pming me first.

[doubleflusher]

I hate Nate and XTR Performance.

He's now on my list of vendors to ruin.

[Raider]

#PUSH approved the ruining of XTR. Time to troll their business and all legalities of owner. To the court records!

[lilred]

Mike from stratified took the pic no?

tapafuck

[alphasaur]

I wouldn't fuck with that guy

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by lilred Mike from stratified took the pic no? tapafuck

Shit. Yes. Mike Neary from Stratified took the pic.

I got the user name wrong above^ editing now. Thanks Jose.

[nindoja]

@chaser27;, @YoursTruly; did y'all ever buy something from XTR Nate? Might be interested in this thread if you did.

[GODspeed7]

@Mike@Stratified; how do you feel about your pics being stolen and used to make another company (who are huge douches) money?

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Originally Posted by alphasaur I wouldn't fuck with that guy

Who is this guy?

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[PapaBruno]

Dunno. I just bought my Autotech internals and my APV3 from him. He seems like a nice dude to me. I can't really pass too much judgement here, but I have been wondering why he wasn't a member on here. Is he?

[Easter Bunny]

meh picture sucks since it is not from the period of time i was parked next to rob

[GODspeed7]

Because he has been pulling shady shit like this since he started. And getting pissy because I didn't buy from him. Really unprofessional if you ask me.

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[PapaBruno]

Originally Posted by GODspeed7 Because he has been pulling shady shit like this since he started. And getting pissy because I didn't buy from him. Really unprofessional if you ask me. sent while failing

Fair enough. Seems like two separate issues then. I'm not necessarily trying to play mediator here being a total MSF nooblet, but why wouldn't you simply tell him "thanks for the pricing heads up," and leave it at that? I'm sure if Rob or Mike don't want their picture used that they could simply ask Nate to remove it, yeah?

All I really see Nate being guilty of is undercutting retailers by offering enthusiasts pricing at cost...even if the methods are a bit upfront and rough around the edges. If he is out of line, simply tell him just that. I just want us all to get along.

[alphasaur]

Originally Posted by GODspeed7 @Mike@Stratified; how do you feel about your pics being stolen and used to make another company (who are huge douches) money? sent while failing Who is this guy? sent while failing

Nates car Lol.

[SofaKingAwesome]

I've been telling you assholes this for months. I even went as far to tell certain vendors he was bad mouthing their products/prices and said vendor pulled his card. Fuck these fb wannabes, fb is only good for saying op eats penises and seeing who got knocked up/locked up

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@Downmented; had a funny interaction with this dude too

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[Pu Manchu]

"I am familiar with slander and liable laws also"

[PapaBruno]

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome I've been telling you assholes this for months. I even went as far to tell certain vendors he was bad mouthing their products/prices and said vendor pulled his card. Fuck these fb wannabes, fb is only good for saying op eats penises and seeing who got knocked up/locked up Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk @dowmented; had a funny interaction with this dude too Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

Off topic: but is that a Horse the Band gif you've got there?
On topic: You guys are going to make me feel like shit for buying my AP and Internals through him. And I thought I was doing something good too.

[SofaKingAwesome]

Originally Posted by PapaBruno Off topic: but is that a Horse the Band gif you've got there? On topic: You guys are going to make me feel like shit for buying my AP and Internals through him. And I thought I was doing something good too.

Lord Gold Throneroom ftw

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[GODspeed7]

Originally Posted by PapaBruno Fair enough. Seems like two separate issues then. I'm not necessarily trying to play mediator here being a total MSF nooblet, but why wouldn't you simply tell him "thanks for the pricing heads up," and leave it at that? I'm sure if Rob or Mike don't want their picture used that they could simply ask Nate to remove it, yeah? All I really see Nate being guilty of is undercutting retailers by offering enthusiasts pricing at cost...even if the methods are a bit upfront and rough around the edges. If he is out of line, simply tell him just that. I just want us all to get along.

I work 70+ hours a week so I can provide for my family and this asshole wants to tell me where I should spend my money and where I should tell people to shop, and YOU want me to thank him? Are you one of his sheeple that was tickled to death to get an XTR nate cult sticker for your car?

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[PapaBruno]

Originally Posted by SofaKingAwesome Lord Gold Throneroom ftw Sent from my SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

Hell yes! I didn't know that they had a music video for that song.
OK, sorry, back on track.

Originally Posted by GODspeed7 I work 70+ hours a week so I can provide for my family and this asshole wants to tell me where I should spend my money and where I should tell people to shop, and YOU want me to thank him? Are you one of his sheeple that was tickled to death to get an XTR nate cult sticker for your car? sent while failing

My ride is vinyl-less
And coming from a PR background, he just needs what we call "media training"
But I really am sorry that you had a sour experience, man. Truly, I am.

EDIT: again, I'm very "green" here, so please I hope you don't take any offense. The last thing I want to do is step on any of the toes of the senior MSF members.

[jdmage_mx5]

When I was looking for rods, pistons, v3 and some other crap I had a local buddy recommend XTR Nate. I sent him a PM on Facebook and his responses just kinda threw me. I had to ask and ask and ask for details. His first response was with a generic $xxxx price and after going back and forth a few times I FINALLY got the information of the rods and pistons he was trying to sell me. I was pissed that I had to "dig" for that information. Later that day I logged onto edge's site and proceeded to place my ~$2,700 order.

[Z32_MS3]

I inquired to him about some autotech internals and he kept bothering me till I blocked him. Not nice to deal with, too pushy. Bought them off edge that day.

[GODspeed7]

That was my problem. I know he was trying to get my business but his way of going about it was fucked up.

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[anodizedeeznutz]

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Here's my experience with him. My friend and I were helping a guy and Nate came in very rude. He did apologise, but the guys a prick.

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[JgamB]

It's a not very cleverly masked sales group - there's half decent conversation at times, but whenever parts are brought up, you can count on a sales pitch. I get that people need to get their name out there to make a living, but it turns a social media outlet into an Amway convention.

I would unsubscribe, but cartwheels is ball sacks and people taking a dump, so I have to combine them like the wonder twins for palatable sort-of-Mazda entertainment.

[PapaBruno]

Originally Posted by EvanSpeed3 Attachment 155944 Here's my experience with him. My friend and I were helping a guy and Nate came in very rude. He did apologise, but the guys a prick. Tapatalkin'

Yeesh. Yeah, that's not the way to go about business.

[Haltech]

Well you never have to worry about them ever being vendors here.

Sorry to hear your art was stolen and modified. I'm also sorry Rob was involved, that isn't right and deserves a righteous ass kicking. Who is this faggot? drop the 411

[GODspeed7]

Nate baumberger also known as XTR Nate from XTR performance. Apparently he is a member here but won't join the discussion.

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All of his followers believe that I am over reacting and that any photographer and car owner would be honored to have their picture displayed on a website for all to see. They aren't violating these laws or anything http://12most.com/2013/03/26/ensure-...online-photos/ I am just stirring up shit for no reason. I am the bad guy. @Haltech;

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[Enki]

Hopefully the copyright owner has the photo(s) DMCA'd.

[Vansquish]

That'd be DMCA'd. It's pretty unlikely that the photo would be.

Of course, it doesn't matter even if he did. The photo was copyrighted (even though it may not have been registered with the Copyright office), the moment it was "fixed in a tangible medium of expression."

That is, the moment the photo was saved to a disk or posted on a website, or anything of the sort, it became copyright-protected.

If you're interested, and want WAAAAY too much technical information, here's a good resource:

U.S. Copyright Office - Copyright Law of the United States

I'm pretty sure that the copyright-owner (Mike?) could file a DMCA complaint, and demand that the photo be taken down. There's a set process for this sort of thing, but it's a little harder when the ne'er-do-well company is a relatively small outfit, as they aren't held to quite the same standards as, say, Youtube.

[PapaBruno]

Has the copyright holder asked him to take it down? I think that would be the first step.
Clearly he posted the picture without permission, which was wrong on his part, but if the proper credit is given and the copyright holder is OK with it now, then that half of the problem is solved.

[BigBoostMS3]

We wont approve him into our nator Facebook page because of how much spam he always ends up posting. He doesn't get the picture though, he continues to send requests to join.

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[Mike@Stratified]

I have messaged Nate about the use of my work. I told him that he should have asked permission in all three instances (that I know of) where he used the photo. I also told him that he may NOT use the photo for sale purposes without my permission and further agreement. His original use of the photo with "PM me for pricing" was not cool and he has now changed it to something that is acceptable to me. I have not asked him to remove the photo as his personal cover photo, the Mazdaspeed Owners group cover photo, or in his post with the modifications to the wording.

Rich @GODspeed7 I appreciate you tagging me in this thread and making me aware of the situation.