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I see these going fast with the new jbr intake also just hitting market
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I love it. I'll take one. LMK how much.
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Hope it isn't grounded.
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Will do..ill check next week to see how much the metal will cost me..

Mine is stainless but i am not making them in that, its just what i had laying around.

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Hope it isn't grounded.
and why is that...called people and they said it was fine if it was...

@rfinkle2, what do you think about that(grounding issue).
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1 for me if reasonably priced...
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Well i need to no on this ground issue, if it is an issue??
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Originally Posted by StayBroke View Post
Will do..ill check next week to see how much the metal will cost me..

Mine is stainless but i am not making them in that, its just what i had laying around.



and why is that...called people and they said it was fine if it was...

@rfinkle2, what do you think about that(grounding issue).
Enki is extremely bright and I believe was working on a similar project in the past.

What do I think? I think that if it is grounded and cannot be, there are easy fixes.
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Ok i thought of a fix.....be back in 30 min with Teflon Nuts and Bolts, and Rubber washers umk.
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Ok, so you do have a kickass product, @StayBroke. But to sell here, you need to follow fs rules. I'd like you to check the group buy rules if you can make these in 45 days, ok? Pm me with any questions. This is for your protection and msf members as well.
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I likes where you mounted the grimmspeed.
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Nice, well if you build it they will sell!
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Because the stock battery box and mounting hardware for the ECU is *not* grounded, I used all nylon hardware on my setup (see below).

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It may not be an issue, but I'll be damned if I'm going to risk something that critical to the operation of my vehicle because I assumed it would be OK.
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Just used nylon nuts and bolts.....check with meter and it is no longer grounded.

Thanks for the heads up.
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@Enki, what kinda battery are you using in that pic, and did you build the box for the battery as part of the ecu relocate as well?
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Not grounded anymore....
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It's a Braille battery and bracket; the bracket has been modified so that the battery can be pulled straight out when the ECU is removed and another holding tab unbolted.

Every bit of information regarding my setup should be in the thread (with pictures).
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The factory ecu is not grounded, so I agree with Enki that it is best to err on the side of caution.

To the best of my knowledge, however, most (including all the Mazda info I can find, lot of rx-7 info available) are grounded.

Better safe than sorry though.

Nylon ftw.
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Yes you are right, i haz da nylon now.
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Dude, very nice. I would pick one up too if you made them.
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Damn, I can't do this because that's where I have my meth filler spout. Unless I relocate that as well

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I see you @HTP viewing this thread. Where is your bracket at? lol
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There making a new battery box.
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There making a new battery box.
I was looking into getting a smaller battery, maybe a braille.

Anyhow, I could use a single exhaust too. (ahem).
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There making a new battery box.
Pics of said battery box are posted in our forum. We have made other battery box setups for those using the braille or odyssey pc680 batteries, but chose to stick with a full size battery for its CCA abilities. If someone wanted a small battery setup we'd be more than happy to whip one up. I would never relocate to the trunk, adds to much weight, and you'll need a cut-off switch if you ever go to the track and tech catches you.

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Sign my up for one. maybe then i can put the clamp that came with the intake back on without it grinding into the white plastic...
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Yes indeed, I am interested In one as well.

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looks good.
i might need one since i'm thinking of buying jbr's new 3.5 wp intake....
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I'm glad to see you addressed the grounding issue. You do not want your ECU grounded; the potential for very bad things can result from a grounded ECU. Have your exhaust welded on if you'd like to see what I'm talking about.
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I'm glad to see you addressed the grounding issue. You do not want your ECU grounded; the potential for very bad things can result from a grounded ECU. Have your exhaust welded on if you'd like to see what I'm talking about.
Yes that issue was fixed and i found out why you dont want it grounded lol. i never ran the car like that but i am using nylon screws now.

And what are you talking about exhaust welded on??
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He means weld on your exhaust with the ecu grounded to find out why you don't want the ecu grounded.
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The ECU is already grounded through the wire harness....ALL ECU's are grounded. There is no continuity from the ECU backing plate to any part inside that ECU. The reason it is not grounded from the factory is because they are using a plastic battery tray to mount it to. That's it. No other fancy reason. And James is right on the part that ANY and EVERY car should not be welded on without disconnecting the battery first.

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There is no continuity from the ECU backing plate to any part inside that ECU.
I don't agree with this but I'm not going to derail this thread either. I think the nylon fasteners is the way to go.

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I don't agree with this but I'm not going to derail this thread either. I think the nylon fasteners is the way to go.

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This issue (for some reason) needs a definitive answer. It's not an agree or disagree situation. If you don't agree then post why. I will of course post why I know for a fact that its not grounded with pictures. That will answer the topic of whether or not its grounded. I have repaired these ECU's, not from damage of welding but from an internal short in an O2 sensor blowing out a circuit.

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I made my small battery box and ECU mount a while ago. It never even occurred to me that the ECU was not grounded from the factory, until I stumbled upon this thread.

I was having problem with what I thought was spark blow out, just some slight hesitation at WOT, in fact I could not catch them on a log, it would would just hesitate for a micro second.

After reading this thread, it makes sense to me that there was some reason that Mazda did not ground the ECU through the case. So, I bought some fiber washers and nylon spacers and isolated the ECU. Guess what? The hesitation went away. Is this conclusive proof that this will happen across the board? Well, no, but @HTP think of it this way, if Mazda did it this way, then there almost has to be a reason. Car manufactures spend millions of dollars to perfect and prove their engineering, and well, there is not a company out there that has that kind of resources to devote to engineering.

Take this for what it's worth, my .02 cents, add an vibration isolator for the ECU to your kit, and do not ground the ECU.
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As you'll see the only thing that touches the case and the board is a thermal paste that IS NOT electrically conductive. Mazda engineers used the aluminum backing plate as a heat sink.

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I made my small battery box and ECU mount a while ago. It never even occurred to me that the ECU was not grounded from the factory, until I stumbled upon this thread.

I was having problem with what I thought was spark blow out, just some slight hesitation at WOT, in fact I could not catch them on a log, it would would just hesitate for a micro second.

After reading this thread, it makes sense to me that there was some reason that Mazda did not ground the ECU through the case. So, I bought some fiber washers and nylon spacers and isolated the ECU. Guess what? The hesitation went away. Is this conclusive proof that this will happen across the board? Well, no, but @HTP think of it this way, if Mazda did it this way, then there almost has to be a reason. Car manufactures spend millions of dollars to perfect and prove their engineering, and well, there is not a company out there that has that kind of resources to devote to engineering.

Take this for what it's worth, my .02 cents, add an vibration isolator for the ECU to your kit, and do not ground the ECU.

Our battery kit utilizes a nylon insert in between the ecu and box because I don't expect everybody to agree with me and I'm not gonna beat a dead horse.

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Ok so i made it where they will slide about 1/4in further toward the fuse box.....heres what you will have to do(its so easy a cave man could do it). @jdub0802, @rfinkle2, @skeurton, @Ezekiel81923, @Seatime3 ,@SpdDemon89


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If not, I'll just blow your car up on the next revision! LOL
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