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thanks man. Quick and Dirty. much appreciated.
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Made some nit-picky corrections, nub.
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Great write up @Bucker. Should be a sticky. Cheat sheet for ATR and straight to the point.
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Very well written sir. Downloaded and did a quick read. Very easy to understand. Will take a look at the corrected one as well. Thank you for your hard work @Bucker
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Great cheat sheet! Thanks!

A few hours of searching compiled into one easy to read doc
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On phone Bucker but subbed for future reading.
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thanks buck. good info
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Thanks man! Will read in the morning when I'm not dead ass tired.
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Very kind of you to do this Bucker!

I have no clue what it all means, yet, but I'm learning.

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Just got the chance to read through it this morning. Well done sir! Screen shots of the tables are a big help too. Thanks again for doing this. Definitely needs to be made a sticky.
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Dam this is nice makes it to the point where even I understand it... I bet the guy tuning me dsnt need this shyt thou.... In fact he could probably write all this himself...













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Holy shit, you simplified the help file so that most normal humans may actually understand it now. Good shit Buck! Thanks!!
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Off to load a newly refined map

Thanks for the great notes! Am especially grateful for the KR settings!

Makes a great followup (addition?) to abilors guide, and between the two a guy could end up with a reasonably respectable tune!
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Thanks for this! Just installed ATR yesterday and kind of lost with it.
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thanks for this bucker. You and Abilor got this shit nailed down for the newbs like me.
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Thanks man. I don't even have an AP yet but I have a whole binder of shit to read.
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Thanks man. I don't even have an AP yet but I have a whole binder of shit to read.
Yeah same thing I did to learn about ATR, I have probably 2-3 binders, lol. You going with the AP now. Will love it man.
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Great read and info!!!! Thanks for the guide Bucker. Now I just gotta get over the fear of messing shit up and start changing stuff.
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Hell yea. This should be the 2nd thing one reads after Abilor's guide.

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in the order they should be read:
1) ATR Help File- Initial tuning guide & the two addendum's
2) Abilors Tuning Guide (still hoping for an update...)
3) Buckners ATR Cheat Sheet


With the above reference material, some study time & some common sense any fool can make an acceptable, decently performing and safe daily driver map.

You'll note that I said "map", not "tune".

I believe there is a vast difference between the results you get from safe acceptable norms and the custom, fine tuned specifically for you custom tunes from the local e-tuners on MSF.

AFAIK, this is the list (compliments of @rfinkle2 sig)

If you need a tune, contact DIZZYTUNING (Phate or Bucker), FREEKTUNES (atvfreek) or the PERM TEAM (Djuosnteisn, Dano, Lex or Socks), in no particular order
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Good stuff as always Bucker.

It is cool to see the ways different people manipulate the tables to get results.

One differences to note since Abilor's guide was written:

-wgdc table values seen in the wgdc table are now what the ecu will use
(much thanks to Dano for his 2x+10 formula, but it is no longer needed)
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It's interesting how similarly I set some things up, but one thing that I've been sticking with for a while on the cars I tune is a boost biased hybrid tune because of erratic WG behavior. Has anyone been having this problem lately with neutered load tables? I would love to just zero out that stuff from now on for the ease of tuning if nothing else. That would knock out a few steps, but I literally had a guy hitting 22psi, 17psi, 19psi, then trailing off to 15psi before 6500 when I had all the load error tables neutered. @rfinkle2 is actually the one that suggested to try a hybrid tune to fix it, and it works well, it's just a little more work.

EDIT: great job BTW @Bucker! I meant to say that first, but my brain was going faster than my fingers, LOL.
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Nataphen, I was having similar issues (cranky wgdc) and Atvfreek, Fobio and Bluestreak convinced me to stop fighting the factory logic, and hybrid tune.

Since using a combo of all / most of the available tables, I haven't had a single issue with wgdc not acting as expected.

It takes a bit more time, but you'll be less likely to get a map back this way when weather changes, imo.
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It's interesting how similarly I set some things up, but one thing that I've been sticking with for a while on the cars I tune is a boost biased hybrid tune because of erratic WG behavior. Has anyone been having this problem lately with neutered load tables? I would love to just zero out that stuff from now on for the ease of tuning if nothing else. That would knock out a few steps, but I literally had a guy hitting 22psi, 17psi, 19psi, then trailing off to 15psi before 6500 when I had all the load error tables neutered. @rfinkle2 is actually the one that suggested to try a hybrid tune to fix it, and it works well, it's just a little more work.

EDIT: great job BTW @Bucker! I meant to say that first, but my brain was going faster than my fingers, LOL.
Lol, thanks.

I have, in the past, done some hybrid stuff but I have found that I can get tons of consistency from tunes done in a similar fashion to what I posted here. I don't encounter any significant over boost situations (MAX 1-1.5 PSI over boost with environmental changes) and those are easily adjusted for down the road. This is just me though, clearly everyone has their own methods. etc.
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The way that I set it up now is load x gear tables ~.2 above logged load, 10% of OEM LEC, zeroed load dynamics, and a less aggressive BEC than recommended here. I stay right on my boost targets, but I was just hoping that Cobb may have given the boost tables more control by now. Another thing that is also load based is the throttle close control. You had mentioned how ineffective it was, but adding some load control back in will keep it from being quite so lazy.

The main thing that I think is funny about your tuning and mine, Buck, is timing. I also set timing tables in a knock, knock+2=no knock, knock+4=max fashion. Many people set them all the same.
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Just thinking about how much I have to learn here makes my brain hurt. Thanks for the cheat sheet - it'll reduce the migraine count, lol.

I am concerned most about the air temps. When it's ~120*F outside @ ~7% relative humidity and you have a stock TMIC; well...
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Awesome! More reading material about ATR. Thanks so much Bucker. I like having a peek into the logic of those who understand, (atr), more clearly. Definitely reading this tonite.
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@Bucker Can i plug in your LTFT learing zones on my maf cal? Will i have to re-do my maf cal to those value?

Sorry a lil off topic.
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@Bucker Can i plug in your LTFT learing zones on my maf cal? Will i have to re-do my maf cal to those value?

Sorry a lil off topic.
Yeah, just plug them in. Your old MAF cal should be damn close, but I would dial it in a bit more.
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Right on.

Ya my maf cal needs a little rub down. A little lotion and candles if ya know what i mean, wink, wink.
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Originally Posted by Mistersix View Post
Right on.

Ya my maf cal needs a little rub down. A little lotion and candles if ya know what i mean, wink, wink.
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Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 View Post
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Thanks for the great notes! Am especially grateful for the KR settings!

Makes a great followup (addition?) to abilors guide, and between the two a guy could end up with a reasonably respectable tune!
Same here!

I have done a lot of reading and these were all changes I was looking to make and will now go see how they work out

Thanks!!!
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