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(Thread Starter) |   Not Ranked : 0 score  Help: Head gasket repair and tips Asking for tips and issues people have ran into that have had this done before. Garage said 11 hours labor so about $1100 labor. He would sent the head to a head shop to get pressure tested to test for any cracks and warping so another $200. About $100 to get it towed there. I would order the gasket set, oil, antifreeze, and head bolts, and have it sent there. So rough estimate is $1500 and the guy was very knowledgeable about what he said they would do to make sure it was done correct. He actually recommended i get a new engine from Jasper instead of doing all of this. Let me know what you all think. Are ARP head bolts the best way to go you think? Thanks guys and would love all the info i could get before I leave Monday to go jump out of Helicopters to know my car will be good to go when I return. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Cometic head gasket Arp head studs 2x cam bolt 2x cam friction washer Timing tools Antifreeze Oil Call the guys at Street Unit, they have everything you need. Thanks for serving our country, I hope everything gets straightened out by the time you return.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score what he just said covers it all, although it can be done without the expensive timing tools if your a bad ass. JK and most def get the better head studs!! |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score oh yeah make sure and have the head and valves checked for leaks and head re-surfaced first too!! |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score How many miles are on this motor? Take that $1500 quote and easily add another grand to it just in case for any unforseen problems/damage to the head. If necessary, get a second opinion and quote. I know for some cars Cometic hg's are hard to come by. With the ARP head bolts any MLS gasket should be sufficient. The Cometic are just nice because of the lip. Avoid graphite like the plague.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I appreciate the info guys. I am going to buy the parts tomorrow so the shop will have them this week. The guy said he took the shop to court and got the prior head gasket issues worked out so i thought it was all fixed. I did get the car $4k less than blue book so I was willing to part out some difference to make sure it will last me. Motor has 75k. |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score You live you learn. Best of luck addressing the issue.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I personally wouldn't get a new long block just because of a head gasket issue... That seems silly to me. Personally if your going to have the shop do the work, I would see about having a machine shop do a street port and polish and a valve job, unless your keeping the car stock... But the head will be off, now will be the time to do it. As others mentioned, Thank you for serving our country. I have been considering joining the AF, but havn't made the plunge.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score well i have a receipt of things done to engine before i bought, which is why i thought issue was worked out. Listed as on bill for labor: Disassemble Short Block Install Sleeve Hone & Hot Tank Clean & CK Rods Install Wiseco Pistons on Rods Polish Crankshaft Assemble Short Block Grind Valves and Seats Resurface Cylinder Head Parts: Head Gasket(Cometic) Valve Seals Pistons Bearings Sleeves So the guy is going to get the engine apart and see what is going on and how the engine looks. It would benefit to get a port and polish if the machine shop is going to be testing the head, so thanks for that advice. Anyone out there think that the sleeve might be the issue or have people had issues with it before? |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score new pistons & stock rods.. that was kind of dumb, the stock rods are more of a problem than the pistons..
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| Not Ranked : 0 score The block has a factory sleeve. The head in this car should not be resurfaced. A light machining for a good seal is probably ok though. If the head is warped it will screw up the the over head cam journals and it will start to have cam to valve clearance problems.
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