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| Not Ranked : 0 score you cant if you go through that trouble get a new crank made custom i simply had my whole crank balanced with it on Last edited by Nitr0EngiE; 06-20-2011 at 10:12 PM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score people dont do it you just balance it without balance shaft otherwise its said only mazda can do it with special tool or some shit just leave it out and run an extra quart of oil i run 7 quarts now |
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score i wonder if i take it off if it would effect the balance of the crank though...i guess there is only one way to find out looking to get DJ's torque plate in sometime next week after he sends it to me...then very shortly my motor can be assembled and thrown into the car which has been empty like this for two years.. Last edited by holeinmypocket; 06-20-2011 at 10:24 PM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score no what you do is send the crank to machine shop and they blance it and you blance the rods and pistons as well then its all balanced ... then there is no need for the shaft. the BS is there because not every factory motor has pistons rods and crank weighed so they use that to kinda make up for it. get motor balanced you really need to they weigh every piston alone and make them all the same weight then each end of the rod gets weighed and matched to lowest weight then they spin the crank on a machine similar to tire balancing and drill some material until its balanced shit man i even think they weighed my harmonic balancer and my flywheel was balanced by spec when i sent them my fidanza Last edited by Nitr0EngiE; 06-20-2011 at 10:34 PM. Reason: MSF Database - Automerged Doublepost |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score cut that ring off. its not fused to the crank and if u dont have a BSD you dont need it. i wouldent have any unnecessary weight on the crank that u dont need esp if its off center like that.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score I am sure though once its off its going to effect the balance and rotation of the crankshaft.. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score I would say that it would be more off balance being off center like that. Ide cut it off.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Actually, you are incorrect. The balance shafts have NOTHING to do with the balance of the rotating assembly. The purpose of the balance shafts is to cancel the inherent second order vibrations created by an inline 4 engine. That is why they rotate at twice crank speed too. Even if your rotating assembly was perfectly balanced to the microgram, you would still have this inherent flaw in an inline 4.
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(Thread Starter) | Not Ranked : 0 score awesome just got comfirmation from Costa Mesa R&D Automotive Machine Shop that i can just knock that gear off the crankshaft...now to find a place locally that will check out my crankshaft...fuck | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Yeah I plan on taking off that stupid gear once I do a build. Ive held the crank in hand many years ago and I remember it being ~28lbs. Ridiculous weight actually. A billet crank on this car would go a long way. | |
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Try picking up a v8 crank lol, 28lb is pretty light. The crankshaft is one place where I dont mind alot of weight.
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| Not Ranked : 0 score My crank will not go back in with that worthless gear attached. Just cut it off and be done with it, no re-balance necessary. It is ROUND and circumvents the entire crank, so there is NO (measureable) balance impact. Just think about it for a few seconds. Even the best balancing rigs only measure to around 1/10th gram, or about 1 tooth on the gear.....
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| Not Ranked : 0 score Dont know how ballz to the wall some of you guys are but I always WPC treat my cranks. I can do the same for anyone interested as well. | |
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