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We bought 08 Mazda3 Hatch Turbo.

78 000 miles.

Quite loud rocker noise. Curious, are rockers mechanically adjustable, like on Hondas, or it's strictly via lifters? We will have oil changed soon, hope, this will fix most of it, but if it can be adjusted, buddy is engine mech that can do this for us.
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We don't have rockers. Our valves use DAMB - Direct Acting Mechanical Bucket.

Does it make noise all the time, or only at startup?

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Aha, technology!

Fair enough.

As of the first few days of observation, it does this at startup - louder - and idling. Revs fix it. I figure it's low oil pressure or sticky lifters, as my assumption is, all buckets are is fancy lifters sitting between cam lobes and valves. Oil level is OK, but oil was changed at some jiffylube place and car was owned by some clown that obviously didn't take good care of it.

So, what we do about this and how to we accomplish two things - fix this and prevent this?
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I'm leaning towards VVT actuator failure at this point. There's a TSB from Mazda for it: look it up on here (it's a bitch searching for it on my phone).


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Here you go, with vid to help.

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It's a vid to fix rocking chair. Not quite funny actually.
Crud, if it's VVT. It's kid's first car he paid for.

Oh, and there was no link to Mazda TSB. I'll really appreciate this.
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You're off your rocker! Although I am sure you are all over rocking chair tuning and modding!
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It's a vid to fix rocking chair. Not quite funny actually.
Crud, if it's VVT. It's kid's first car he paid for.

Oh, and there was no link to Mazda TSB. I'll really appreciate this.
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It's a vid to fix rocking chair. Not quite funny actually.
Crud, if it's VVT. It's kid's first car he paid for.

Oh, and there was no link to Mazda TSB. I'll really appreciate this.
There are links to the TSB here on MSF and on the web at large. If you spent some time looking, you'd find them. Actually...fuck it. You're clearly not putting the effort in, so let me google that for your lazy butt.

Does the noise sound like this?:

If so, do not pass "Go", do not collect $200. Take the car to the dealer immediately and try get them to apply the TSB in question. The car is already 8000 miles over the limit specified by the TSB, but some dealers have been more lenient on that point than others.

In either case, be prepared to fork out between $500 and $1300 depending on the extent of the damage.
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Originally Posted by ukrbyk View Post
It's a vid to fix rocking chair. Not quite funny actually.
Crud, if it's VVT. It's kid's first car he paid for.

Oh, and there was no link to Mazda TSB. I'll really appreciate this.
you've gotten a lot of help from this forum in the past couple days. time for you to donate and learn to use the search button. and have your son join here. he already bought a car we could have steered him away from and is probably going to do something stupid and break it if he doesn't learn.
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I also learned that I am in wrong forum. Thanks all for help.
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So we tell the guy what the problem most likely is, and we spoon feed him the location for all the information, and he thinks he's on the wrong forum for getting shit fixed?

Da fuck?


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What forum did he think this was?
Maybe he does have lifters.
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I also learned that I am in wrong forum. Thanks all for help.
Not going to lie, i lold hard.

Probably a made up story about the kid, probably aome guy that bought a lemon and hes in over his head.




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What forum did he think this was?
Maybe he does have lifters.
I think he's hearing the hpfp and has no idea what's going on. he thinks there are rockers in a ohc engine and thought the intake was connected directly to the tb in an turbo car...I think the car in his avi is the newest vehicle he's worked on before getting this car
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I also learned that I am in wrong forum. Thanks all for help.
Wait, you forgot to buy a sense of humor when you bought your kid an abused, poorly modded, poorly maintained car!

Seriously, you are posting nothing but cries for help, but are unresponsive to ANY help. What is your problem?

If you want tech help, THIS IS THE FORUM YOU NEED. go try Mazdas247, and it wont get you anywhere, and 3 forums will give you wrong info too.

You are only hurting yourself, and your son's car.

VVT is $1200 at the dealer. If it fails, new motor runs 3500 used, $12000 installed at the dealer.

So if you want to disregard any advice, leave on that note.
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what a douche nozzle, hope his shit spontaneously combusts
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This explains everything:
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I can smell an asshat a mile away, and this thread certainly stinks.


GTFO OP.
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I honestly like to give guidance to new members that cannot take a joke or are new to the Internet. However, when veteran members give advice that is rejected, ignored, or argued with, I just want to make em pink.

We've all been there. But this guy is just being a jerk.

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I also learned that I am in wrong forum. Thanks all for help.
Have your "kid" join up so we can help him out. Apparently you are too busy being smug and hypermiling to learn a goddamn thing.

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