bigger tip and intake?

[cocoleveo7686]

I have a 06 ms6 with kn sri, cobb tip, test pipe, and tmic

I am getting internals soon but what size is the cobb tip? Whats the biggest tip for the ko4? Same with intake? Would I benefit getting a bigger one like maybe 10 more hp?

[spdtrux]

Visit Cobb and JBR web sites for the info you seek.

Tip/SRI combos run from 2.5"- 4" w/ reducers to K04 and are silicon or metal
I just bought a HTP 3" in for sale section. For my K04 set up.

w/ bigger intakes you need to MAF CAL

[cocoleveo7686]

I contacted cobb but haven't gotten any response.

[speed23]

A bigger tip doesnt help much if there is still at bottleneck at the intake. Either get a bigger intake and tip or just leave your setup as is. I bet a bigger tip only would give you like 1 hp...lol

[Spectrix]

I like the larger intake, HTP 3.0" definitely made the engine feel more responsive.

Just remember you'll need to scale the MAF sensor to install a larger than stock intake. You didn't list an Access Port? You need that to scale the MAF.

[cocoleveo7686]

Originally Posted by speed23 A bigger tip doesnt help much if there is still at bottleneck at the intake. Either get a bigger intake and tip or just leave your setup as is. I bet a bigger tip only would give you like 1 hp...lol

Well thats why I was thinking of selling my cobb tip and k&n sri and buying a bigger setup but im not sure if the cobb is 3". Id like to get a 3" intake with a 3-3.5" tip

Originally Posted by Spectrix I like the larger intake, HTP 3.0" definitely made the engine feel more responsive. Just remember you'll need to scale the MAF sensor to install a larger than stock intake. You didn't list an Access Port? You need that to scale the MAF.

Yes sorry I do have an accessport already on a stage 1 map. Someone posted the difference between a 3" and. 3.5" Intake that gained 8whp. I think the k&n sri is 2.5" so there definitely has to be a difference. When I put a 3" on my vr6 gti vs a 2.5 the difference was noticeable

[SKiZZ]

HTP 3.5" Intake System + 51R Battery Tray Combo Kit (MS3) - Hi-Tuned Performance Products

There's your sign.

[Mistersix]

Originally Posted by cocoleveo7686 Well thats why I was thinking of selling my cobb tip and k&n sri and buying a bigger setup but im not sure if the cobb is 3". Id like to get a 3" intake with a 3-3.5" tip Yes sorry I do have an accessport already on a stage 1 map. Someone posted the difference between a 3" and. 3.5" Intake that gained 8whp. I think the k&n sri is 2.5" so there definitely has to be a difference. When I put a 3" on my vr6 gti vs a 2.5 the difference was noticeable

This^ You don't even need new hardware. You could find power in a custom tune over that OTS map. You can work with the hardware you have and make improvements threw the software.

I ran a 3.5 incher on my car for a few months just for the hell of it. After tuning it i found gains of 5-8hp at about 5k and about 3hp at 6k. They were consistent gains comparing logs on VD but i felt no difference while driving and 40-100mph times were about the same compared to the Cobb SF i was running.

So yes, in my experience there are small gains to be had with a bigger intake on the K04. Is worth the money? Not to me. I sold it to a fella going BT as he would be better served by it.

[cocoleveo7686]

Originally Posted by Mistersix This^ You don't even need new hardware. You could find power in a custom tune over that OTS map. You can work with the hardware you have and make improvements threw the software. I ran a 3.5 incher on my car for a few months just for the hell of it. After tuning it i found gains of 5-8hp at about 5k and about 3hp at 6k. They were consistent gains comparing logs on VD but i felt no difference while driving and 40-100mph times were about the same compared to the Cobb SF i was running. So yes, in my experience there are small gains to be had with a bigger intake on the K04. Is worth the money? Not to me. I sold it to a fella going BT as he would be better served by it.

I am goin to get fuel pump internals before I go custom map. I personally don't wanna get a tune until all my mods are done. Maybe if I find an intake cheap enough ill get it

[redboat]

since you have a MS6, the BIGGEST TIP you can run with the OEM battery is a 3". And that will rub just a lil. You can modify your battery tray to prevent this. But there is NO difference power between a 2.5" or 3" TIP. Look at any TIP, it's just a funnel from the small 2" turbo inlet to the larger dia of the MAF.

As for a intake on the K04, you can run stock OEM MAF to a 4" MAF. its all about how you tune. I currently run a 3.75 intake on my K04 turbo. ANYTHING larger than the OEM 2.68" MAF will REQUIRED A change in tune.

[cocoleveo7686]

Originally Posted by redboat since you have a MS6, the BIGGEST TIP you can run with the OEM battery is a 3". And that will rub just a lil. You can modify your battery tray to prevent this. But there is NO difference power between a 2.5" or 3" TIP. Look at any TIP, it's just a funnel from the small 2" turbo inlet to the larger dia of the MAF. As for a intake on the K04, you can run stock OEM MAF to a 4" MAF. its all about how you tune. I currently run a 3.75 intake on my K04 turbo. ANYTHING larger than the OEM 2.68" MAF will REQUIRED A change in tune.

Thank you. What if I get the jbr 3.0 intake but for the gt series. Can I use a reducer to the stock k04, will there be enough room? Just incase I decide to go gt series?

[redboat]

Originally Posted by cocoleveo7686 Thank you. What if I get the jbr 3.0 intake but for the gt series. Can I use a reducer to the stock k04, will there be enough room? Just incase I decide to go gt series?

well it depends on the angle of the bend where the MAF housing is with relation to the location of your battery. But isn't the JBR 3" Intake silicone? I would suggest the HTP 3" since that is metal and you can swap out the couplers for diff size turbo inlets. Plus there's relocate the Valve cover vacuum port closer to the turbo inlet for better sucition.

Also consider just buying a HTP 3" or 2.5" TIP, and run a SRI that best fits your budget or current power goals. Since you don't have internals, a 2.5" TIP would be fine with an OEM size MAF SRI. Then move up to a 3" SRI once you get internals.

[cocoleveo7686]

I have a cobb tip and k&n sri right now but I wanted to go full 3". The price on the jbr is pretty good. I would go 3.5 but dont wanna mess with battery tray. I have a d34 optima in there now

[SKiZZ]

Originally Posted by cocoleveo7686 I have a cobb tip and k&n sri right now but I wanted to go full 3". The price on the jbr is pretty good. I would go 3.5 but dont wanna mess with battery tray. I have a d34 optima in there now

You don't need the tray on the 3.5. Warps the battery box a little but that's it might be different on a 6 though.

[redboat]

Originally Posted by cocoleveo7686 I have a cobb tip and k&n sri right now but I wanted to go full 3". The price on the jbr is pretty good. I would go 3.5 but dont wanna mess with battery tray. I have a d34 optima in there now

You'll get the same gain from a 3.5" as a 3" on a K04 turbo.

Buy my SRI then....

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...filter-165155/

Originally Posted by SKiZZ You don't need the tray on the 3.5. Warps the battery box a little but that's it might be different on a 6 though.

on a MS6, the largest TIP you can run is a 3"