big turbo stock block thread

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Shit looks good ray

[dooderek]

bumpin to stickies, thanks guys appreciate the knowledge!

[Broxer]

@Daddy Chinkus

We need you to take out the trash again

[dooderek]

updated:

430 awhp 415 awtq @23.3 psi 6031
VVT 30 tapered to 0 by RL
19.50 degrees of timing by RL
91 + 3 gal e85
d07 pre tb
d02 pre turbo
68k miles

[RaisedOnPunk]

Originally Posted by Daddy Chinkus updated: 430 awhp 415 awtq @23.3 psi 6031 VVT 30 tapered to 0 by RL 19.50 degrees of timing by RL 91 + 3 gal e85 d07 pre tb d02 pre turbo 68k miles

I may have missed it, but are you making this on stock internals?

[dooderek]

Originally Posted by RaisedOnPunk I may have missed it, but are you making this on stock internals?

This thread isn't called stock block for nothing

[bwspeed]

gtx3071
tmic fail
12.5deg
50/50 100octane/93
21.5psi
334whp 322wtq

[thehead]

GTX3071R
vvt 35 tapered to 0
19 degrees timing at rl
11.7 afr targeted
1808 hpfp desired fp
vd ~ 425-440hp / 420-430 lbftq 1.01 cf
4gal e-85/rest 93 oct (w/marvel mystery oil)
25psi
~4k miles on turbo, 51k on car, still trying to tune my spool quicker.

Edit: shot a rod/piston through the block last Sept
part of the piston was lodged into the crankshaft somehow.

[Voltwings]

As it sits:
ATP GT3071r
4 gal E85
23 psi
18.5* at redline
45k on car, ~3k on BT, gonna crank the bitch up once i get the 5th port sorted though.

[Voltwings]

You guys running 2 and 2.5 gallon E85 blends, what are your fill ups like?? 1 gallon of e85 and 7 gallons of 93? half a gallon and 3.5 gallons? seems like thats barely any E85.

[crazyp]

Originally Posted by Voltwings You guys running 2 and 2.5 gallon E85 blends, what are your fill ups like?? 1 gallon of e85 and like 6 gallons of 93? half a gallon and 3 gallons?

Personally I just guess. If my light comes on 3 gallons of E and fill up the rest. If im at half of a quarter I put 2.5 of E. 1/4 tank I put 2 gallons and fill the rest. I just try to keep the ratio close I don't get to anal about it

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by crazyp Personally I just guess. If my light comes on 3 gallons of E and fill up the rest. If im at half of a quarter I put 2.5 of E. 1/4 tank I put 2 gallons and fill the rest. I just try to keep the ratio close I don't get to anal about it

i guess its not enough e85 to really mess with the trims too much but guess work isnt gonna work for someone like me haha -_-

[Black Metal]

ATP GT3071r
4 gal E85
22 psi
18.5* at redline
80k on car, ~3k on BT

[mituc]

GTX3071
straight pump gas(93-94 octane)
25 PSI at red line (throttle reduction MAP limit set to 39.88psi/275kPa and fuel cut at 40.32psi/278kPa)
12 degrees of timing at red line, VVT set to 0 at RL
75k miles/121k km on the car, 18k km/11k miles on BT

[InFeXIoN]

Originally Posted by Voltwings As it sits: ATP GT3071r 4 gal E85 23 psi 18.5* at redline 45k on car, ~3k on BT, gonna crank the bitch up once i get the 5th port sorted though.

5th port? What happend with the meth?

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[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by InFeXIoN 5th port? What happend with the meth? Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Look how long ago I posted that haha, that was before I picked this kit up

[Lakespeed6]

Glad to finally be able to post here.
GTX3076 MS6
93 with D10 Meth
25psi
18*at redline
75k on the car
383HP 385TQ
Freektune

[InFeXIoN]

Originally Posted by Voltwings Look how long ago I posted that haha, that was before I picked this kit up

Oh haha I didn't even think to look at the damn date, my bad.

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[BlckMs3]

hate to be that guy buuuuut kinda of upset this thread stopped lol...

[phate]

Originally Posted by BlckMS3 hate to be that guy buuuuut kinda of upset this thread stopped lol...

We have pretty well established power levels for what is safe, long term, and what is a time bomb.

[BlckMs3]

lol all this i know, was just interesting to see how far people ride that line

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by BlckMS3 lol all this i know, was just interesting to see how far people ride that line

been on 27 psi, 435 whp 465 wtq for the past month. motors gettin built at the end of the month so i figured id get slightly more frisky in the mean time but i've turned it down now haha, no sense in sending a rod through the block before then.

[atvfreek]

Originally Posted by Voltwings been on 27 psi, 435 whp 465 wtq for the past month. motors gettin built at the end of the month so i figured id get slightly more frisky in the mean time but i've turned it down now haha, no sense in sending a rod through the block before then.

Is that vd or dyno numbers?

Sent from your couch

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by atvfreek Is that vd or dyno numbers? Sent from your couch

They're "dont worry about it" numbers haha. Thats VD, so i do tend to take it with a grain of salt, but id imagine its somewhere in that ballpark.

[Swinger13]

I'm doing a turbo swap in a month or less. I can post here to bring this thread back to life.

[Voltwings]

Originally Posted by Swinger13 I'm doing a turbo swap in a month or less. I can post here to bring this thread back to life.

Speaking of which, did you forget?

[Swinger13]

Originally Posted by Voltwings Speaking of which, did you forget?

I guess I forgot to reply. I'm in the middle of the tuning process with Lex. I have a GT2871 now. We just upped the boost and timing slightly and it feels great. I will update.

I need to learn how to use V dyno correctly because my graphs are wonky looking and wavy. Just to get some idea.

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Swinger13 I guess I forgot to reply. I'm in the middle of the tuning process with Lex. I have a GT2871 now. We just upped the boost and timing slightly and it feels great. I will update. I need to learn how to use V dyno correctly because my graphs are wonky looking and wavy. Just to get some idea.

If the smoothing is set to 3 and they are still all over the place the logging must be done on a very smooth flat road.

[Swinger13]

Originally Posted by Lex If the smoothing is set to 3 and they are still all over the place the logging must be done on a very smooth flat road.

I had no clue what smoothing is but as soon as I hit smoothing 2 it flattened out nicely and didn't really change through smoothing 3,4,5,6

[BlckMs3]

i got mine 71 in, gonna wait for dyno results to post up

[ricardo_yen]

What about running a gtx28, with spool at 3300, would that be danagerous, like a high load low rpm situation.....

I have a stock block but I'm trying to match the right turbo for the 1/4mile....

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by ricardo_yen What about running a gtx28, with spool at 3300, would that be danagerous, like a high load low rpm situation..... I have a stock block but I'm trying to match the right turbo for the 1/4mile....

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[stlskater92]

My black ms3 has a .5557 w/ t-4 hotside
running 17psi currently @16* timing on 93pump gas.
Gonna get the meth kit working and fix the most fucked up maf cal in history and run 22-25psi and 19ish* timing.
I'll get ligit dyno numbers up when I'm done with tuning.
motor only has 21.5k miles currently so fingers crossed she's a strong one

[Etipp98]

6266 w/6th port
3 gal e85/ 9 gal 93 mix
26 psi at redline with only 12* advance at 6500. (tune in progress by @Realgib3 )
99k on motor, great compression still. Was running a gt30 before this for about 10k miles on 390whp.
Have about 5k on this setup.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by Etipp98 6266 w/6th port 3 gal e85/ 9 gal 93 mix 26 psi at redline with only 12* advance at 6500. (tune in progress by @Realgib3 ) 99k on motor, great compression still. Was running a gt30 before this for about 10k miles on 390whp. Have about 5k on this setup.

That is a lot of power for so little timing. Looking nice.

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go That is a lot of power for so little timing. Looking nice.

Yeah, I looove his turbo. I had a feeling it would be just about perfect, after seeing how my 6466 was reacting.

He was knock limited on 93 at ~12*, so that's where we started with the 3gal blend. We'll work up to the ~15* range at 6500, get the tq as flat/low as possible, then see where we are. The car really moves out though already.

Keepin tq low and still making good peak numbers is the toughest thing on these cars, partly because of our lack of rpm. I'd love peak numbers to be at 7500, rather than 6500, but since I've already kissed pistons from valve float on a very similar setup, we'll stick with the low rl for now.

[Etipp98]

Originally Posted by Etipp98 6266 w/6th port 3 gal e85/ 9 gal 93 mix 26 psi at redline with only 12* advance at 6500. (tune in progress by @Realgib3 ) 99k on motor, great compression still. Was running a gt30 before this for about 10k miles on 390whp. Have about 5k on this setup.

Anddddd 2 years later she is still going strong.

Now with a gen2 6266, JMF IM and a few other things.

Ill probably try to get to the dyno soon to confirm im roughly in the ballpark of this VD.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by Etipp98 Anddddd 2 years later she is still going strong. Now with a gen2 6266, JMF IM and a few other things. Ill probably try to get to the dyno soon to confirm im roughly in the ballpark of this VD.

That is roughly 60whp more than I have ever seen on my stock block...

Reverse taper FTW!

[Voltwings]

Knowing what i put my stock block through and seeing what you guys are doing, it really is a wonder how people manage to blow these things up...

[coasttime]

Originally Posted by Voltwings Knowing what i put my stock block through and seeing what you guys are doing, it really is a wonder how people manage to blow these things up...

Right! That is what I was thinking.