CNT DP+CBE...I'm lovin' It!

[helmetface]

**EDIT**

VIDEO UPLOADED (youtube) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teRKc...ature=youtu.be (uploaded on a friends account, don't mind the random dubstep on his channel)

So the pull sucked, the tune sucks and the mic sucks, but heres just an idea of what the exhaust sounds like. There is literally nowhere in a 20 mile radius of me that has a good spot to shoot some pulls..cars will always be present(sometimes security guards *whistle*) and there is always a limit to the amount of space and the quality of the roads..plus the ringing that you hear in the background was from a factory located about 35 ft away from the camera..

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Alright gents' as some of you already might know I finished my DP+CBE install last weekend and figured I'd throw up a bunch of pics and maybe a video if my Thunderbolt will pick up the sound decently <-- (NOPE!)

I AM A NOOB! but hopefully, after this DP install, I can graduate to the next level..I'm making this thread to show anyone can do these things, THE RIGHT WAY, as long as they persevere..I'm a computer guy, only recently have I began to do anything more involved than oil changes, alternator swaps and headlight bulbs..

This is NOT an install thread, I'll throw some tips in here and there, but this is better described as a review thread.

I'll add one thing now, have a friend, someone to help you with removing the DP..I did it alone because I'm a loner..and I made several songs entirely composed with only swears..my hands are beat to shit(nothing new) and my patience was incredibly thin..

For the Catted DP and CBE(stainless tip) it was $600 shipped..can you beat that? I don't think so. The build quality was top notch, there were a few problems with the shape of the bell mouth, but other than that, install was a breeze..it was taking out the old DP that really gave me trouble..of course.

Another gripe I had, which other members confirmed that mine was not a fluke, is that the alignment of the Midpipe to the DP was absolutely terrible, offset by almost a full 1/2"+...it still makes a seal but I just don't like the looks of it..bugs the fuck out of me..so it's a good thing its underneath the fucking car.


One big tip at this point: JACK YOUR CAR UP, HIGH! I had my car on jack stands and it only gave me a little room to work (see pic at the end and lol@me)- this fucking sucked, I'm 230 lbs and built like a fucking tree..getting under the thing was hard enough let alone taking apart my entire exhaust.. which by the way, I ended up cutting out, saved the Cat though..using a corded sawzall and shorty metal blade.


So, enough with the talking, here's the pics and shit:


For those of you sporting 15" monitors I apologize, I left the pictures large because I personally hate squinting..and I have dual 24" monitors ha!



MY BFF:




Bring Torches, I do a lot of soldering and I know propane is shit unless you like sitting there for 10 minutes on a single joint, POLYPROPYLENE FTW! Had some nuts seize on the studs and this helped immensely




Preview CNT Catted DP, CNT CBE Stainless Tip



Holy Muff' Batman!




Good welds!(shitty picture )







MY helper, she was there for the pics but not the install..not that she could help much, shes only good with one pipe





Old DP, Exhaust...ooo so ugly! ( The 1 1/4" Black Pipe in the picture doubles as a massive breaker bar as well as a BullyBeater! )











New pieces Installed, SO SMEXY!




















Next few pics document the difference the midpipe to DP flange size difference..











And...LOL@ me=




I hope someone, somewhere can take something from this mess of a thread, but the CNT turboback setup sounds pretty awesome, I wish it was a little throatier but fuck..I drive a 4 cyl...haha Headers INCOMING!

THANK YOU for Looking!

[I Love Brownies]

looks good. good shit you will enjoy the power increase with the dp.

[DONOTBUGME]

well since no one else has saidit I guess I will, post noodz of chick in the pic to get to the next level if there is such a thing

[redneckrecon]

looks good bro... thats the set up i want..

[I Love Brownies]

in b4 noodz

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by donotbugme well since no one else has saidit I guess I will, post noodz of chick in the pic to get to the next level if there is such a thing

Hahaha

Oh win win win win!

Ya..I dunno why I asked, but I tried getting her consent..shes a little tame outside the bedroom..bit old fashioned. I'll have to ninja a cell pic as shes getting out of the shower..thank god for 8mp cell phone cameras..

I have a feeling she'd notice me taking my cell out during sex..haha

Originally Posted by redneckrecon looks good bro... thats the set up i want..

Aside from the Midpipe to DP flange difference its fucking tit!

Great Sound

[byau]

nice pics. i've been thinking about getting their downpipe. i already have the CNT CBE and a corkspor testpipe.

[Nazarite]

And what do you mean by throatier sound? As in, you wish your car sounded like a Mustang V8? Because I have the CNT cbe with the CP-E dp, and it sounds RUGGED.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Nazarite And what do you mean by throatier sound? As in, you wish your car sounded like a Mustang V8? Because I have the CNT cbe with the CP-E dp, and it sounds RUGGED.

Of course I want that v8 gurgle haha

Like I said before, for a 4 cyl its sounds amazing. Its plenty deep enough I just wanted a little more chaos in the sound haha

I'm fucking picky with my ears, attribute that to years of music production.

Originally Posted by byau nice pics. i've been thinking about getting their downpipe. i already have the CNT CBE and a corkspor testpipe.

Do it up man, I see you're from Beantown

We should meet up some time. Hell if you get your CNT DP I'll help out if you need it..as much as I hated doing mine, I feel like I could do it all again in half the time.

[DONOTBUGME]

boston guys look at my avatar

[redneckrecon]

Wheres your FAKERS avi???

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by donotbugme boston guys look at my avatar

It's a good thing I don't follow sports!


OR I'D CARE!


Haha, I wasn't born here, so that's my excuse..just here making money on the all rich Jews...(no offense, I just don't like your people)

[Redspeedster518]

any chance of inside car vid???

[AZSPEED3]

Very nice looking exhaust. Sound clips a must. Looking at getting there Dp w/ cat.

[laxplayermjd]

whats the butt dyno feel like with the downpipe?

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Redspeedster518 any chance of inside car vid???

I'll see who I can find around here with a decent mic on their video camera.

My cell takes great still shots but the mic on it is terrible for hearing exhaust qualities.

Originally Posted by laxplayermjd whats the butt dyno feel like with the downpipe?

There is a small, but noticeable difference, once I get my ATR fully dialed in I'm sure the butt dyno will really be tinglin'

But at the moment, I flashed OTS Stage2, I'm seeing times lowered significantly from 0-60, 35-75mph etc

I still need to re-calibrate my MAF and then hopefully some Vet here will adopt me and my baby

[sick_role]

haha...your helper couldn't figure out how to get past the exhaust in order to access her feeding bowls. I keed, I keed.

really though, nice job man. I got mine for 628 shipped, which I thought was more than worth it.

AND you didn't even break an 02 sensor. Bravo to that.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by sick_role haha...your helper couldn't figure out how to get past the exhaust in order to access her feeding bowls. I keed, I keed. really though, nice job man. I got mine for 628 shipped, which I thought was more than worth it. AND you didn't even break an 02 sensor. Bravo to that.

haha Thanks to the o2's..dunno how they weren't in worse condition than they were..

I bought a set, Wideband and 2nd just in case, prior to installation..The old wideband is actually plugged into the 2nd bung just as a plug until I can find a good bolt to keep it sealed..wires are just wiretied to some refrig lines ahha

[sick_role]

what did you buy for a new wideband? Mine actually broke and we replaced with an NGK short term. I don't know if all 02 sensors are created equal or what...but I haven't heard crap about NGK (02 sensors, at least), they just happened to be available at the time.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by sick_role what did you buy for a new wideband? Mine actually broke and we replaced with an NGK short term. I don't know if all 02 sensors are created equal or what...but I haven't heard crap about NGK (02 sensors, at least), they just happened to be available at the time.

Bosch

[irishking03]

I have the CNT Catted DP with a HKS CBE and I love it. Sounds nice when I rip it

[Domino81]

How long did it take you to replace the DP?

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Domino81 How long did it take you to replace the DP?

Hehe all day to do the DP+CBE

I was by myself, read through the thread, I think I covered most topics, except for the fact that it took a ridiculously long time. My biggest problem was obviously getting the old one off..when backing off the 5 main nuts(on the studs) make sure you grease em' up good and take your time..you don't want to fuck those up.

One seized nut took me nearly 45 minutes to get loose..they are a fucking PITA

Other than that, make sure when putting the new DP on, you don't tighten the nuts down until they are ALL on the studs.

Good Luck

**EDIT**

Oh and do yourself the favor of jacking it up more than a foot..

[mh3kgt]

Exhaust looks great. I was gonna steer clear of all exhaust mods for fear of smoking turbo, but the more of them I see the more I'm convinced I want one haha

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by mh3kgt Exhaust looks great. I was gonna steer clear of all exhaust mods for fear of smoking turbo, but the more of them I see the more I'm convinced I want one haha

*fingers crossed* No smoke from my stock snail, the gains are proving to pay itself off and the sound is like a very sweet cherry underneath

[Redspeedster518]

still waiting for those in car vids, how bout it? im debating if i want to go this route.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Redspeedster518 still waiting for those in car vids, how bout it? im debating if i want to go this route.

I'll get my a buddies camera either tomorrow or the day after and I'll give you all a driveby..

My phone couldn't handle the all the ambient noises.

Haha

[Redspeedster518]

if possible can you get one from inside the car driving

[LuczOr]

Im liking the CNT setup the more I see of it. Not to mention it's a steal compared to the other guys on the market.

[helmetface]

Video added to OP,

Launch, driveby, windows down, windows up.

Good Luck

[Dano]

Originally Posted by Nazarite And what do you mean by throatier sound? As in, you wish your car sounded like a Mustang V8? Because I have the CNT cbe with the CP-E dp, and it sounds RUGGED.

yup...I have Cobb DP and CNT CBE and after about a month on the CNT, shit gets real

love it!!!

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 yup...I have Cobb DP and CNT CBE and after about a month on the CNT, shit gets real love it!!!

Ya, for the price you really can't beat it..hell I don't think any of the 'larger' manufactures have much on it, except for a heftier price tag..only way to improve the sound IMO is to delete the car, but a wise man once said:

"A street car passes emissions"

I stand by this.

[Dano]

I'd say the sound got 2x louder after a month.

Idle: just a bit deeper and a touch louder
Mid range: 2x louder under load up to around 4K
4K+ : about the same as at time of install

bottom line: under load up to 4K it will get much louder but not too loud IMO

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by Dano2010 I'd say the sound got 2x louder after a month. Idle: just a bit deeper and a touch louder Mid range: 2x louder under load up to around 4K 4K+ : about the same as at time of install bottom line: under load up to 4K it will get much louder but not too loud IMO

So you attribute the sound difference to time and not mileage? I'm just curious, my exhaust sound has changed mildly over ~600ish miles.

I love that this setup sounds good and deep but isn't too loud..idle is still pretty loud, but I didn't want to be "that douche" that rolls in at 2 am and wakes up the entire world.

Glad you enjoy yours as well.

[Dano]

I would say mileage is what makes the difference. I too noticed it getting a bit louder around 600 but it will continue to get louder than that under load. Nothing that will wake up the neighbors though.

High idle is fairly loud now but normal 8-900 rpm idle is not much louder than OE.

IMO it's a perfect balance of performance and sound without being too loud and remaining respectful to the neighbors.




Tappin

[Etipp98]

My cnt tbe will be here Wednesday! Can't wait!

[sick_role]

OP, perhaps you can speak to this as well. I installed my CNT (catted) TBE last week or so and 4th gear seems really flat to me. Car used to pull pretty good in 4th and now it doesn't seem to pull much at all...however 5th pulls way harder than before.

I flashed to a stg2 OTS as well. no logs as of yet as I was learnin the ECU a good one. But I should be good to log and go WOT at this point. Regardless, was wondering if you experienced the same/similar?

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by sick_role OP, perhaps you can speak to this as well. I installed my CNT (catted) TBE last week or so and 4th gear seems really flat to me. Car used to pull pretty good in 4th and now it doesn't seem to pull much at all...however 5th pulls way harder than before. I flashed to a stg2 OTS as well. no logs as of yet as I was learnin the ECU a good one. But I should be good to log and go WOT at this point. Regardless, was wondering if you experienced the same/similar?

Actually quite similar experiences. I wouldn't say fourth was necessarily flat, but my power curve in general.

On the butt dyno it actually felt like I was slower than before the DP install. Even after flashing Stage 2 mind you.

What I suggest is you start your custom tuning. This is where the gains can actually be seen and felt. I am assuming the OTS maps, in regards to stage 2 especially are quite conservative. The DP opens up a lot of power, one of our best gains we can do to this car- so it only makes sense that you'll have to tune accordingly.

I've only begun to tune this myself and I'm noticing incremental gains, in time I am hoping to see the full 'fruits of my labor'

Good Luck

[sick_role]

My car felt crazy slow at first...then I saw I was only pushing 9lbs of boost...then I realized I forgot to tighten the CP hose haha. Anyway, I'm glad I'm not crazy.

I need a perm.

[helmetface]

Originally Posted by sick_role My car felt crazy slow at first...then I saw I was only pushing 9lbs of boost...then I realized I forgot to tighten the CP hose haha. Anyway, I'm glad I'm not crazy. I need a perm.

Haha that'll do it.