Jbr or sure ? 3.5 pcv system tube relocation ?

[tokoam]

Im about to buy 3.5 intake for my beaner. I think its time to ditch the old ms3 cai intake can you guys list the benefits of htp vs sure vs HTP. Also can these intakes be bought as a package with harness and map ?if not wheres the best place to buy em. Seems I have a leak somewhere and can't get a proper maf cal so while I do a boost leak test I figure might as we'll upgrade the intake system.

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[08.5MS3]

Benefits of SURE - Cullen eats penises. Red Bull.

Obviously the superior choice.

[Raider]

This should be a flame-fest. you answered your own question by throwing in HTP versus sketchy brand of crap owned by a self-absorbed douchenozzle that has been banned from so many forums, SURE/SU is left with microregional and irrelevant pages that are desolate wastelands and ghost towns.

Most of their stuff has or will fail.
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...design-139503/

[tokoam]

looks like me have mixed opinion's here..but raider dose have a good point as he listed Sure's fails

[anavrinIV]

Originally Posted by tokoam looks like me have mixed opinion's here..but raider dose have a good point as he listed Sure's fails

AND you fail at sarcasm.

JBR.

[08.5MS3]

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[Raider]

What's the point of a lifetime warranty, if the company is no longer around, as well. Just sayin.

I would go to anyone else. HTP is an approved vendor, give em a call or PM em!

[tokoam]

Originally Posted by Raider What's the point of a lifetime warranty, if the company is no longer around, as well. Just sayin. I would go to anyone else. HTP is an approved vendor, give em a call or PM em!

i just spoke to HTP and will place a order with them one reason i like theres better than JBR is that silicon can deforms with heat over time I have seen it with my own eyes with inlets ...can you please list the proper maf and harness i will need ? ... oh and on HTP site they have coupler selection listed is 3.5"-2.25" Reducer the correct size ? just want to make sure

[DoMiNic]

I always see SURE/SU selling on Craigs List.. They are getting desperate. lol

[anavrinIV]

Originally Posted by tokoam i just spoke to HTP and will place a order with them one reason i like theres better than JBR is that silicon can deforms with heat over time I have seen it with my own eyes with inlets ...can you please list the proper maf and harness i will need ? ... oh and on HTP site they have coupler selection listed is 3.5"-2.25" Reducer the correct size ? just want to make sure

Stock MAF, put in the new pipe. You know how to tune for this intake?

[tokoam]

Originally Posted by anavrinIV Stock MAF, put in the new pipe. You know how to tune for this intake?

lex and I are still working on my tune but we hit a snag with this damn leak ...so I was instructed to do a leak test but since im going to pull out the intake to do a leak test on the inlet side why not replace it with what the bnr should really have which is why i thought of the upgrade here is my mafcal ...so you can see how skewed it is..


i found this article Stock Fitment 3 Bar Map Sensor Upgrade so to confirm since i plan on going meth or e85 in the future is why i choose 3bar base on this article i will need to cut maf harness and soder new pig tail connector for new 3bar sensor ?

[Raider]

Dont be shocked if OEM TIP is leaking, Mine was.

[anavrinIV]

Originally Posted by tokoam lex and I are still working on my tune but we hit a snag with this damn leak ...so I was instructed to do a leak test but since im going to pull out the intake to do a leak test on the inlet side why not replace it with what the bnr should really have which is why i thought of the upgrade here is my mafcal ...so you can see how skewed it is.. i found this article Stock Fitment 3 Bar Map Sensor Upgrade so to confirm since i plan on going meth or e85 in the future is why i choose 3bar base on this article i will need to cut maf harness and soder new pig tail connector for new 3bar sensor ?

You're mixing parts.

The MAF (mass air flow) sensor is what goes in the intake, the MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor is in the intake manifold. If you're going with a 3 bar MAP Matt Jackson makes a plug-n-play pigtail for the bosch sensor, I have links somewhere.

You use your stock MAF sensor in the new intake.

You'll also need to scale for the bigger intake (do a search for the correction factor) and tune for the bigger pipe.

[manila]

Originally Posted by Raider Dont be shocked if OEM TIP is leaking, Mine was.

BECAUSE...we all know that the clamp is hand tight on the OEM TIP.

[tokoam]

Originally Posted by anavrinIV You're mixing parts. The MAF (mass air flow) sensor is what goes in the intake, the MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor is in the intake manifold. If you're going with a 3 bar MAP Matt Jackson makes a plug-n-play pigtail for the bosch sensor, I have links somewhere. You use your stock MAF sensor in the new intake. You'll also need to scale for the bigger intake (do a search for the correction factor) and tune for the bigger pipe.

okay this is what i got in my cart

Bosch 3 Bar TMap Map Sensor with IAT

Bitwise Motorsports Bosch MAP Sensor Connector Mazdaspeed 3 Mazdaspeed 6

HTP 3.5" Intake System + 51R Battery Tray Combo Kit MS3

[Raider]

Originally Posted by manila BECAUSE...we all know that the clamp is hand tight on the OEM TIP.

My clamp was actually all the way tight, floppy loose to the turbo for who knows how long.

[anavrinIV]

you'll have to tune for both the MAF and MAP. They are unrelated

[tokoam]

Originally Posted by anavrinIV you'll have to tune for both the MAF and MAP. They are unrelated

order placed.....

[breakfstincluded]

your comments are clusterfucks of confusion lol

[Nitr0EngiE]

Op still is completely ignoring the fact that he's buying a upgraded map for no damn reason..... stock turbo can't even max out the stock sensor you just wasted like 100 on that sensor

Edit: I see prices have dropped a shit ton in price since I did mine

[anavrinIV]

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE Op still is completely ignoring the fact that he's buying a upgraded map for no damn reason..... stock turbo can't even max out the stock sensor you just wasted like 100 on that sensor Edit: I see prices have dropped a shit ton in price since I did mine

OP also states he has an s3

[tokoam]

Originally Posted by Nitr0EngiE Op still is completely ignoring the fact that he's buying a upgraded map for no damn reason..... stock turbo can't even max out the stock sensor you just wasted like 100 on that sensor Edit: I see prices have dropped a shit ton in price since I did mine

Dude read my description I clearly mention I have a beaner !!!
Aka s3 that lex and I are tuning. .
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[Nitr0EngiE]

Lmfao never heard of a beaner my bad I'll eat crow on that