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Default The odds of blowing motor with gt3071r?

Ok I was thinking about setting my sites on the gt3071r. If you keep your tune strict and boost 17-20psi with tons of meth you think its safe?
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See this:

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yeah ive seen that thread, Just look looking for info related to big turbo though. Im thinking about this or the Pg K04 any recommendations? My stock turbo is still great with know smoke I just thinking I would eventually like to upgrade.
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You'll be fine.
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Yeah thats what im thinking as long as i don't over boost and keep my afrs real consrvative at low rpm.
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Yeah, I'd say makes sure you have an EWG to keep it from creepin' on you, don't load her up too early, keep the meth pumpin' and you should be a happy man.
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if your gonna go big turbo then you will most defiantly have to also have a ewg if you wanna be safe.
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yeah cuase boost creep
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No offense but these doom threads need to die......Try EXWG, a reliable boost controler, 100% Meth and tuned AF/R for 10.5 to 11.1 at WOT.
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No offense but these doom threads need to die......Try EXWG, a reliable boost controler, 100% Meth and tuned AF/R for 10.5 to 11.1 at WOT.
I'm Optamistic! not doom thread lol I know a fair amount I just thought Id get some varying opinions incase thers something i'm missing.. you know
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your rods will be by by within 4000 miles man, even if you drive it like a puss... the 3071 is the rod killer of ATP turbos.
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Thank you scott. I was coming into say the same thing.

These are the stupidest threads of life. Either the motor will pop or it wont. If you are thinking like that don't do it.

Do you expect us to say you have a 1 in 30984888 chance? Just fucking do it or dont. God.
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why? people have blown motors at part thottle, has there been any documented blows with a smart tune and meth?
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No offense but these doom threads need to die......Try EXWG, a reliable boost controler, 100% Meth and tuned AF/R for 10.5 to 11.1 at WOT.
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knowing you gsr, your gona be turning that boost WAYYYY up. haha i can see the thread now


"so how many psi can i get outta this sucker? 26, 27...30!?!?"
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knowing you gsr, your gona be turning that boost WAYYYY up. haha i can see the thread now


"so how many psi can i get outta this sucker? 26, 27...30!?!?"
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Fuck, myself and other have give people SO much info on motor life, longevity, reasons for breaking blah blah blah. Everyone wants their shit spoon fed to them and I'm sick and tired of repeating myself.

No offense gsr, but this thread should just die as at this point it has no value.

At this point it's about as useful as "the chances of getting herpes from a whore"
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Fuck, myself and other have give people SO much info on motor life, longevity, reasons for breaking blah blah blah. Everyone wants their shit spoon fed to them and I'm sick and tired of repeating myself.

No offense gsr, but this thread should just die as at this point it has no value.

At this point it's about as useful as "the chances of getting herpes from a whore"
look who ever does't like my thread keep out... I like to get varying opinions and draw conclusions. As you can see above there are varying opinions. If you don't want to particpate than refrain from posting...
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I wouldn't do it. From what I've seen, I wouldn't go any bigger than a GT28 @16 psi on stock internals (assuming EWG & Meth). I am a paranoid fucker, tho. I also like having my car on the street rather then in the shop, too.
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either do it or don't, don't ask us the damn odds of the motor blowing as from what i can see these things grenade it all different kind of scenarios. just be prepared if you do and even if you don't.
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either do it or don't, don't ask us the damn odds of the motor blowing as from what i can see these things grenade it all different kind of scenarios. just be prepared if you do and even if you don't.
I did ask and I have gotten peoples opinions. Thats the point of this thread people give different opinions and people can draw assumptions form them.
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Man this thread is point less you've been around long enough you've seen the odds roll the dice or don't.
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Man this thread is point less you've been around long enough you've seen the odds roll the dice or don't.
Even thought like you said I know most of what others know some times you may catch some information that may sway your opinion on way or antother. This thread is big turbo oreinted and i'm thinking about getting a big turbo so I feel good about having a thread like this...
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Even thought like you said I know most of what others know some times you may catch some information that may sway your opinion on way or antother. This thread is big turbo oreinted and i'm thinking about getting a big turbo so I feel good about having a thread like this...
We are all gonna blow up eventually man even me. Just try to have as much fun as you can before it happens or stay stock and clutch your warranty tightly.
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i agree with haltech, only a matter of time.
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I say do it. If your gonna blow do it in a blaze of big turbo glory!! Not to mention your car seems have held up well enough so far...
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Do it man, I'm going to. Opinions are like assholes, everybody's got one. It's hard for anyone to say whether or not you're gonna blow. It's luck of the draw if you ask me. My opinion is if you don't want to waste time posting about how this is a waste of time, don't post at all. Next time just make a poll and everyone will vote that you'll blow hahaha.
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We are all gonna blow up eventually man even me. Just try to have as much fun as you can before it happens or stay stock and clutch your warranty tightly.
Yeah I know I was just wanting varying opinions to organized my thoughts..lol
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Has anyone thought of using one of PT-Performance SST Turbos?
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Good point and pg K04 too
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you should be fine, but then again you could blow up tomorrow so really its up to you, just be prepared to build it if something happens, lots of meth, and ewg also if you do it
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you should be fine, but then again you could blow up tomorrow so really its up to you, just be prepared to build it if something happens, lots of meth, and ewg also if you do it
Yeah thats what i'm thinken. I'm also interested in the pg k04 or the SS cuase of the price diffrence.
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haha if you want to know the real odds, you must find out how many MS3's there are that have upgraded to one of those turbos, then out of that you must find out how many have blown their motor, and thats your answer to what the odds are.

To be honest with you, if you do it right i think you'll be fine.
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haha if you want to know the real odds, you must find out how many MS3's there are that have upgraded to one of those turbos, then out of that you must find out how many have blown their motor, and thats your answer to what the odds are.

To be honest with you, if you do it right i think you'll be fine.
Yeah but how many of them had the knowlage or resources that we have now with tuning-meth, why and when these motors tend to blow? Are you taking that in to account?
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so basically you'll never find your answer unless you do it because it would be impossible to find all that info out.
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so basically you'll never find your answer unless you do it because it would be impossible to find all that info out.
True i'm thinking with a smart tune rich down low and agressive up top it would be ok . I'm not the guru of knowlage thats why I created this thread to see if anyone could give a decent reason for me to alter that view... a logical reason not just an assumption. Like for expample a good reason would be if alot of peaple with excellent tunes form 2000 rpm to 7,000rpm spraying meth all the way have blown.
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Go turbonetics f garrett.
I might have a new motor by this month woooo.

Chances joe with the 3071 is slim with u... U drive worse than I do. Always flooring it everywhere. And a slim chance because u won't get it. Just like the dp u said u were getting almost a year ago. Not to be a dick but it's the truth
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Go turbonetics f garrett.
I might have a new motor by this month woooo.

Chances joe with the 3071 is slim with u... U drive worse than I do. Always flooring it everywhere. And a slim chance because u won't get it. Just like the dp u said u were getting almost a year ago. Not to be a dick but it's the truth
Yeah I drive pretty hard BUT I got my tune down thats much better than driving with out a good tune...lol and whos to say a dp isnt luring on it way to my place soon..lol
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