What does an MS3 need to trap 110mph? - Page 2

sleeper3

Originally Posted by Cosmic3MPS

Hi Guys,

My first post here and great site it is. Here are the results of my Xede tune and I am VERY happy with it:

Cheers from Aus

so it looks like they bumped the boost and leaned the mix out a good bit. there you go.

Cosmic3MPS

The guys who installed the Xede (Chiptorque) do the installs for the Mazda Racing Targa cars in Aus. They also did the MPS Extreme that some of you may have heard about (was unveiled at a motor show as a concept car). I am pretty sure they know what they are doing. Like the CP-E option it is just a piggyback unit but hell, it sorted my car out.

gsrtype1

Originally Posted by Cosmic3MPS

The guys who installed the Xede (Chiptorque) do the installs for the Mazda Racing Targa cars in Aus. They also did the MPS Extreme that some of you may have heard about (was unveiled at a motor show as a concept car). I am pretty sure they know what they are doing. Like the CP-E option it is just a piggyback unit but hell, it sorted my car out.

hey dude the base map from the exede claims a 50 horsepower jump do they just pull fuel? and how much I have the standback but it comes zeroed out

sleeper3

Originally Posted by gsrtype1

hey dude the base map from the exede claims a 50 horsepower jump do they just pull fuel? and how much I have the standback but it comes zeroed out

read the graphs dude.

af ratios went from between 10.5 and 11 to righ around 12 and boost went to 19 from 16ish. that's why the graphs were posted. you you could read them and see what changed.

sleeper3

and what the hell do you mean by zeroed out?

gsrtype1

Originally Posted by sleeper3

and what the hell do you mean by zeroed out?

i mean nuetrual it doesn pull fuel change timeing etc unless you tell it to

sleeper3

Originally Posted by gsrtype1

i mean nuetrual it doesn pull fuel change timeing etc unless you tell it to

so what does it do?

gsrtype1

Originally Posted by sleeper3

so what does it do?

it controls boost and boost spike and it controls fuel, timeing deos datallogging etc.. it just comes set to zero you can change what ever u want if u know what your doing..

BlackMS3

I bet some NAWWWZZZZZ could get a 110 trap.....

TRU-BOOST

Originally Posted by redrocketz

you get those tires I sent you yet?

yep, i put them on today and they fit great. i hope route 66 doesnt get rained out on saturday !

redrocketz

Originally Posted by TRU-BOOST

yep, i put them on today and they fit great. i hope route 66 doesnt get rained out on saturday !

Import wars on Sunday at GLD BTW.

lazyboi808

cosmic...when u did those dynos...was the just the exede? or did u have the turboback and intake too? ..just wondering......being that the exede ups the boost an leans the car out abit...if u where to put the tbe and fmic or tmic etc...dont u think it will hit fuel cut an or require a upgraded pump? these are the ?s i need answered before i start entering my visa card number lol....

flogbox

Originally Posted by lazyboi808

just wondering......being that the exede ups the boost an leans the car out abit...if u where to put the tbe and fmic or tmic etc...dont u think it will hit fuel cut an or require a upgraded pump? these are the ?s i need answered before i start entering my visa card number lol....

I have the same mods as Cosmic but 17psi not 19pi. I only know of 1 person that has had a fuel cut. It was happening constantly regardless of whether it was 10F or 90F weather. He had an Apexi CAI (turned out it was modeled straight off the WRX). He replaced it with another brand and the cut stopped. That is the only case of fuel cut i have heard of happening in Australia and it was due to a poorly designed intake, not a lack of fuel.

There are full bolt on cars getting around here which don't require more fuel. There is a full bolt on + high flowed stock turbo here that runs on the stock pump and doesn't have fuel issues. The TurboXS car here has every MPS bolt on and runs fine on the stock pump and no cut.

In saying that, you guys are the one's with fuel issues so i wouldn't listen to what an Australian car is doing because it seems stock fueling is better than the US cars. If it wasn't, all the Ozzies would be crying about having no fuel which we don't.

BTW i'll be upgrading to either a TMIC or the TXS FMIC very soon and then having the Xede dyno tuned.

lazyboi808

wow...lets move to aus. lol. jk..with the xede, is it tuneable after you buy it if you have access to a dyno and a laptop? i am goin to get my car baselined on sat. then order all the parts on sun...so i can hopefully get everything by next friday..lol...hawaii...shipping kills me..lol....

Cosmic3MPS

Originally Posted by lazyboi808

cosmic...when u did those dynos...was the just the exede? or did u have the turboback and intake too? ..just wondering......being that the exede ups the boost an leans the car out abit...if u where to put the tbe and fmic or tmic etc...dont u think it will hit fuel cut an or require a upgraded pump? these are the ?s i need answered before i start entering my visa card number lol....

The car has bolt-ons (see my sig) mainly just an exhaust and intake that would produce any power gains. Interestingly, my dyno results before the Xede with the mods were almost the same as stock which I think is just the matter of the ECU managing to counter anything that you do to these cars. Unless you take some kind of control over ECU this will always happen. The Xede in a sense restored all of the mod gains that were in time overridden by the ECU. As FlogBox points out, fuel cut never seems to be an issue down here but we don't have some of the extreme temp changes that you guys do and maybe that has some relevance. I wonder if cars in say Hawaii or Florida (similar climates to AUS) would experience fuel cut like some of the colder parts of the US?

wow...lets move to aus. lol. jk..with the xede, is it tuneable after you buy it if you have access to a dyno and a laptop? i am goin to get my car baselined on sat. then order all the parts on sun...so i can hopefully get everything by next friday..lol...hawaii...shipping kills me..lol....

Yes, you can download base maps from Xede and make adjustments on a laptop and load a new tune (can also save down your original tuned map). Timing, fuel, and boost are all adjustable. You can also store dual maps. I have mine set up for different fuel grades (sometimes 98 octane is not available where I live and I can only puchase 95).

Cheers

flogbox

Originally Posted by Cosmic3MPS

Interestingly, my dyno results before the Xede with the mods were almost the same as stock which I think is just the matter of the ECU managing to counter anything that you do to these cars. Unless you take some kind of control over ECU this will always happen. The Xede in a sense restored all of the mod gains that were in time overridden by the ECU.

And just to back up what Cosmic says above, i found the exact same thing to happen with my car. I put on the TBE, K&N panel filter, bov and the car's power basically didn't budge from stock. Once i put the Xede in, it was power city

For some reason you guys in the US don't seem to have this problem? Maybe Mazda gave you better ECU's and shit fuel pumps and we got shit ECU's and great fuel pumps ooooohhh the irony!

sleeper3

Originally Posted by Cosmic3MPS

The car has bolt-ons (see my sig) mainly just an exhaust and intake that would produce any power gains. Interestingly, my dyno results before the Xede with the mods were almost the same as stock which I think is just the matter of the ECU managing to counter anything that you do to these cars. Unless you take some kind of control over ECU this will always happen. The Xede in a sense restored all of the mod gains that were in time overridden by the ECU. As FlogBox points out, fuel cut never seems to be an issue down here but we don't have some of the extreme temp changes that you guys do and maybe that has some relevance. I wonder if cars in say Hawaii or Florida (similar climates to AUS) would experience fuel cut like some of the colder parts of the US?

Yes, you can download base maps from Xede and make adjustments on a laptop and load a new tune (can also save down your original tuned map). Timing, fuel, and boost are all adjustable. You can also store dual maps. I have mine set up for different fuel grades (sometimes 98 octane is not available where I live and I can only puchase 95).

Cheers

I'm crying because 92 is the best we can get here

sleeper3

Originally Posted by flogbox

And just to back up what Cosmic says above, i found the exact same thing to happen with my car. I put on the TBE, K&N panel filter, bov and the car's power basically didn't budge from stock. Once i put the Xede in, it was power city

For some reason you guys in the US don't seem to have this problem? Maybe Mazda gave you better ECU's and shit fuel pumps and we got shit ECU's and great fuel pumps ooooohhh the irony!

the only thing that really would have improved your power is the exhaust, but it should have done wonders for you. that's strange. maybe the aus cars have freer flowing exhaust than the american ones too. we have crazy emissions standards here.

Cosmic3MPS · 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by sleeper3

I'm crying because 92 is the best we can get here

100 Octane is also available at some selected stations (Shell V-Power Racing)

the only thing that really would have improved your power is the exhaust, but it should have done wonders for you. that's strange. maybe the aus cars have freer flowing exhaust than the american ones too. we have crazy emissions standards here.

The gains were definately there when the mods were first added but after a few drives it all disappears as the ECU adapts (Mazda's shitty reflashes at service time certainly didn't help either, pay for the 'wow' factor and then they take it away. Not any more though!).