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DIY: Sea Foam

1. Warm up your car.




2. Park the car on a level surface and turn off the engine.

3. Disconnect the brake booster vacuum hose from the insulator pipe on the fire wall.








4. Get a see through container to pour the Sea Foam into.
I used a plastic water bottle cut in half. Wipe down the container or bottle with a clean paper towel, till the bottle is dry and clean.




5. Pour roughly 12 oz of Sea Foam into your see through container and set aside for a moment.






6. Turn on the car. Turn off AC.

7. Using the brake booster vacuum hose, siphon the Sea Foam out of your container. Try not to stall the engine. It is not necessary to rev the motor at all. When there is about one ounce of Sea Foam left in the see through container, fully emerge the vacuum hose causing the engine to stall.




8. Wait ten minutes.

9. With the vacuum hose still disconnected start the car. This removes left over Sea Foam remaining in the line.




10. Reconnect the brake booster vacuum hose.




11. Idle the car for 10 minutes while it smokes.
Tip: Turn off your climate control in order not to get the smoke & smell in to the car.




12. Take a few mile ride using the 'right pedal' more often then not.
(Allow the car to idle for 2 minutes before it is turned off to allow the engine to cool down.)

13. Time for an oil change.

Disclaimer: Perform this DIY at your own risk. I am not liable for damage or injuries.
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i think im going to do this soon.
thanks for the right up!!!!
seems easy enough
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you really only need to change the oil if you put it in the crankcase
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Thanks for adding pics to my instructions. Bova is correct about the oil change.
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you really only need to change the oil if you put it in the crankcase
I would still do this right before an oil change. All the carbon broken loose by the Seafoam will end up in your engine oil and filter.
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It better not unless you have some serious issues in your engine. Anything that it might loosen up had better go out the exhaust path and never touch your oil.
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Why wouldn't it? The carbon will be in contact with the engine oil until it reaches the exhaust. Most will exit with the exhaust, but some will inevitably come into contact with the oil coating the internal parts & end up in the filter.
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maybe i dont know much about the internal workings of an engine but shouldnt the rings on the pistons create a seal or close to it not allowing anything into the crankcase? itsnt that how we have compression and are able to have boost?
i dont know, il be changing my oil either way, cant hurt and my car needs it. haha
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The carbon builup that this removes is on the valves and tops of the pistions. The carbon area of the valves and the tops of your pistons should not be in contact with your oil supply.

Dane, correct.
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Those pics will help a lot of people out. I prefer to use the other end of this line where it connects to the intake manifold. It's easier to me to work at the front of the engine.

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The carbon builup that this removes is on the valves and tops of the pistions. The carbon area of the valves and the tops of your pistons should not be in contact with your oil supply.

Dane, correct.
+1 on doing an oil change after the seafoam treatment. Gas shouldn't come in contact with the oil supply either, but these motors have a well documented history of fuel-dilution issues. After seeing how dirty my oil has been after the two times I've seafoamed my car, there was definitely some carbon that found it's way in.
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The carbon builup that this removes is on the valves and tops of the pistions. The carbon area of the valves and the tops of your pistons should not be in contact with your oil supply.
No oil on the cylinder walls, either, right?
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No oil on the cylinder walls, either, right?
below the rings there should be, those rings should be scraping the oil back down into the crank area. there shouldnt be oil above the rings in the combustion chamber...
the main reason i would say seafoam is a good idea for the disi is the fact we dont have any gas running on the back of our intake valves so we get a large amount of carbon build up, but i think we all had that idea in our head. jmhinkle hit it right on the $$$$
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^^ exactly. Oil in your combustion chamber is not wanted and if it is getting passed your oil ring then your rings are shot.

"+1 on doing an oil change after the seafoam treatment. Gas shouldn't come in contact with the oil supply either, but these motors have a well documented history of fuel-dilution issues. After seeing how dirty my oil has been after the two times I've seafoamed my car, there was definitely some carbon that found it's way in. "

This is the only legitimate argument for the oil change. Yes it is no secret the motors get fuel dilution, but does it come at idle with a 14.7 AFR target under high vacuum when you are doing seafoam or does it come when the ECU commands an unbelievable 9.xx AFR under boost?
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Is there a noticeable difference after doing this? Anyone recommend changing the spark plugs as well? I didn't know if they would foul with this?
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My take on changing the oil after performing the Sea Foam treatment is as follows. The Sea Foam is an alcohol based liquid, which is thin and when added to the engine in a plentifully manner may pass the piston rings.
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Thanks for the pics - helps me out a ton since I dunno where anything is on this car w/o pics I was about to stick a banana in the tailpipe and see if that helped somehow.

Quick clarification; do you have 4oz leftover in the original Seafoam canister when you're done then, or did I misread somehow?
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Thanks for the pics - helps me out a ton since I dunno where anything is on this car w/o pics I was about to stick a banana in the tailpipe and see if that helped somehow.

Quick clarification; do you have 4oz leftover in the original Seafoam canister when you're done then, or did I misread somehow?
I used about 3/4 of the can.
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Sparkplugs: It has been recommended to changed them afterwards. I swapped over to Denso 2 step when I did the first seafoam. I was have boost control issue related to elevation so I swapped back in my stockers did another seafoam and am still running the stockers without any issues. Hell if anything it cleaned them up.

Leftover: is recommended to go in your gas tank to clean out the fuel system. I did the 1/2 and 1/2 both times.
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How often should we Seafoam?
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How often should we Seafoam?
bump for this...
i would like to do it every oil change but that seems a bit excessive... but i plan on changing my plugs soon so i might as well do it once more before that.
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i would say every 10-15k miles? maybe even more.
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Great write up. I've been thinking about doing this.

I've been reading up on BG44 which is what the dealership sells vs. Seafoam. Anyone have thoughts on both? BG44 is only put in the gas though.
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well if its only put in the gas that really would do nothing for cleaning your intake manifold now would it? or your intake valves for that matter.
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Just got done doing mine. Thanks for the write up man. Got a pretty good sized cloud and smoke trail with only 9000 miles. Feels good gettin all that shit thats built up out of there.
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I think how often you do it depends on if you have OCC, 2nd OCC, and EGR delete. Each one of those will extend the time in between.
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Guys, I have been performing this type service professionally for about 15 years now, I did my MS3 yesterday for the first time with about 13k on the clock, I have never witnessed that much black smoke before on any car..............wow, these things really run rich, subsequently causing an ass load of carbon buildup, we should benefit from doing this service every 10-15,000 miles..............
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So is it bad that mine had white smoke? Ive always read thats a coolant leak or something?
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Guys, I have been performing this type service professionally for about 15 years now, I did my MS3 yesterday for the first time with about 13k on the clock, I have never witnessed that much black smoke before on any car..............wow, these things really run rich, subsequently causing an ass load of carbon buildup, we should benefit from doing this service every 10-15,000 miles..............
So it won't cause any long term damage to seals, injectors or cats? I'm still debating using this stuff. I guess letting carbon build up without cleaning it out would be worse than any possibility of seafoam hurting the engine.
How does seafoam affect O2 sensors if it's causing all the crap to blow out the exhaust? Kind of like what happens after eating a bad burrito....
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so wat does this do. just clean out carbon build up.
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I am not totally sure about a few of the instructions...when you "siphon" the seafoam with the hose in the clear container, is the hose only partially in the seafoam so that it sucks air too or do you put the hose in all the way...I was confused since the next step is to fully emerge the hose, does that mean just in the liquid or to push it to the bottom so that the hose is plugged by the bottom of the container plastic?
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Thanks for the pics that helps a lot!
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I am not totally sure about a few of the instructions...when you "siphon" the seafoam with the hose in the clear container, is the hose only partially in the seafoam so that it sucks air too or do you put the hose in all the way...I was confused since the next step is to fully emerge the hose, does that mean just in the liquid or to push it to the bottom so that the hose is plugged by the bottom of the container plastic?
submerge the hose so that it sucks in some air as well...yes...
when you've done that and about half of the seafoam is gone, fully submerge the hose so that it cannot suck in any more air. don't worry about pressing it down to the bottom. this should kill the engine.

i did this to a 2000 civic over the weekend and it smoked for about 20 minutes. it was awesome!
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thinking abot doing this ... is it safe with the seals and anything else that it could damange
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I've used sea foam for about 12 yrs on all my cars and never had a problem with any of them but I was warned several times doing this could foul out O2 sensors...I always put a can in the gas, half in the crank case and half down the vacuum brake line. Always worked great and sometimes it drastcally improved power on some of my friends cars who never done this and they were at about 60k miles.
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I've used sea foam for about 12 yrs on all my cars and never had a problem with any of them but I was warned several times doing this could foul out O2 sensors...I always put a can in the gas, half in the crank case and half down the vacuum brake line. Always worked great and sometimes it drastcally improved power on some of my friends cars who never done this and they were at about 60k miles.
I'm thinking about trying this on my car...

1 Can in Gas Tank
1/2 Can in Crankcase
1/2 in Vacuum line

Does anyone else recommend this method?
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I don't think we need it in the crankcase especially if you still have the Balance shaft holding back a quart of crap. Vacuum line and tank is good enough.
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Ummm...this method works...I just did it this weekend by myself, without revving the motor. You just make sure the vac tube can suck in air as well as seafoam and it works. Sure it takes a little while, but it does suck all of it in...I did splash seafoam on my intake though, trying to get it to feed into a bottle lol but that's not the OP's fault just cuz the vac tube is stiff and short...
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No shit. If you follow the directions, it is easy, works and is a one man job.
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Ummmm BULLSHIT! the engine doesnt run more than 5-10 seconds with that vacuum hose off. It boggles down to 200rpm and shakes like crazy.
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