HOW-TO: MS6 Custom FMIC with TR8 Core

[superskaterxes]

all done!!!!

[Mistersix]

Damn thats a lot of hacking up the bumper. Definitely going with the TR6. maybe i can avoid all that ninja slicing.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by Mistersix Damn thats a lot of hacking up the bumper. Definitely going with the TR6. maybe i can avoid all that ninja slicing.

you cant see it from the outside so why not?

[SIXual Panda]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes you cant see it from the outside so why not?

i like that comment, but i cannot say that about mine lol. i definitely get more love than hate from mine though. maybe if i just hacked the shit out of it just to get it done, it would be a different story, but if you make it look good and not hacked, than why not?

looks good ant!

[Docnox]

My fmic has been interfering with my driver's fog housing for a while now, I need to move my intercooler back a few inches and I think I'm gonna steal that mounting scheme you have setup there. Looks grrrreat.

[RichieRichness]

Car drives great, the placement of the HKS really makes the sound come alive!


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[MS3inDC]

Originally Posted by RichieRichness Car drives great, the placement of the HKS really makes the sound come alive! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Can't wait 'till mine is finished. Gotta get the bov adapter coupler like yours. So it'll be later this week for me.

Fail pipe is fail... Using the pipe I got with the bov in the same location would look ghetto-rigged.

... I left the vta fin at Ant's btw...

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes .... i get everything from CXracing. ive prob spent almost 1k from them in the past month building kits for people haha. their shit is actually really nice quality and ive been running it since i had my first FMIC way back in the stock turbo days lol.

I like their aluminum a lot. The 3.25" pipes are very thick walled and sturdy. And the 2.5" piping is perfect for all my ic stuff.

[Mistersix]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes for reference heres the BOV adapter i used with an HKS on it

Where did you find this adapter?

[Mistersix]

I found some but only in 2.5" on ebay. I'm looking for 2.25"

[MS3inDC]

Originally Posted by Mistersix Where did you find this adapter?

Originally Posted by Mistersix I found some but only in 2.5" on ebay. I'm looking for 2.25"

I believe superskater gets all his piping supplies from cx racing

[Mistersix]

Ya i was looking there. All they're stuff is a little more money than they're stuff is on ebay. But i didn't see any of those bpv flanges.

I'm considering the same BOV setup VTA. Whats the trick to tuning for this? Or can it only be done with blow thru?

[RichieRichness]

Originally Posted by Mistersix Ya i was looking there. All they're stuff is a little more money than they're stuff is on ebay. But i didn't see any of those bpv flanges. I'm considering the same BOV setup VTA. Whats the trick to tuning for this? Or can it only be done with blow thru?

you want to bring your ign timing limit (min) tables closer to 0...this will help reduce backfire. However, I still get the occasional pop.

[superskaterxes]

i bought that adapter on ebay

[Mistersix]

Ya i found 2.5" but no 2.25". Oh well, i may place it next to the TB using aluminum pipe since i can't find one of those in the size i want.

[chuckms6]

Frozenboost.com has adaptors for the low

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[kadeem.anderson]

what piping kit did you use?

[:: Gusto ::]

that looks nice.. but i want a FMIC to fill the entire opening.. not site so low... you know.?.

too bad there is no way to mod tha crash bar so the fmic sits further up.. & fills the entire front grill opening.

i bought a used fmic off here like 2or3 yrs ago.. & just never installed it.. its just sitting in my basement.. It was designed to fill the entire opening..
maybe ill toss that on this yr.. i should actually do it now.. since my mazda is out of commission for a brake master cyl...
hrmm too many projects right now...

[2.3speed06]

Originally Posted by :: Gusto :: that looks nice.. but i want a FMIC to fill the entire opening.. not site so low... you know.?. too bad there is no way to mod tha crash bar so the fmic sits further up.. & fills the entire front grill opening. i bought a used fmic off here like 2or3 yrs ago.. & just never installed it.. its just sitting in my basement.. It was designed to fill the entire opening.. maybe ill toss that on this yr.. i should actually do it now.. since my mazda is out of commission for a brake master cyl... hrmm too many projects right now...

Too many, or too lazy???

[Mistersix]

Does this have a blow thru maf setup? There's no pic of that portion of the cold pipe.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by Mistersix Does this have a blow thru maf setup? There's no pic of that portion of the cold pipe.

nope, standard maf but theres a super straight section of pipe before the TB if you wanted to go that route.

[Mistersix]

k. just wondering since i see you have it VTA and there wasn't a clear shot of the straight pipe you speak of.

Going FMIC is a chance to change many things. Many things i've been considering.

[RichieRichness]

Ant, I think I'm gonna rig a CAI instead of going with a cold air box

[:: Gusto ::]

Originally Posted by 2.3speed06 Too many, or too lazy???

maybe a little of both..
but being a home owner... makes it so there is always something that needs to be fixed.

[superskaterxes]

so i just bought that washer tank from the first page and it fits FLAWLESSLY. im going to take mad picts and add them to this thread when i officially install it. so far the tank was only $20 and i dont see any further major expenses.

[Mistersix]

Originally Posted by RichieRichness you want to bring your ign timing limit (min) tables closer to 0...this will help reduce backfire. However, I still get the occasional pop.

Is there a way to address the rich conditions after a shift?

And what about the positioning of the BOV? Wouldn't the air travel backwards threw the intercooler as its being blown out? Could that affect spool?

[superskaterxes]

so here's how to get the tank working.

first buy this tank:

76801SR0A02 Windshield Washer Expansion Tank New Honda Civic 95 94 93 92 Auto | eBay

honda part number 76801SR0A02 if u wanna buy it somewhere else.



first i removed the pump it came with and bought a (i think 3/4") barbed cap from home depot/lowes in the plumbing section.






plug the existing hole








then you want to extract the old pump and grommet from the OEM tank.






drill a hole (cant remember what size it was but i wanna say 1.25" (ill check on this) and push stock grommet in








insert pump






cut one of the tabs off the top of the neck to fit better







to mount it i just used a piece of square aluminum and drilled 2 holes in it. i had to smash the bottom end because the stock stud sticking out of the frame wasent long enough.






there's a tab on the side of the tank that matches up perfectly with where i drilled the hole in the aluminum. otherwise everything should be pretty straight forwards. you will need to extend the wires for the stock connector and extend the rubber hose itself to reach the other side of the car. here's final install picts

[p057]

anyone thought about using the TR8L core? or at least a core that is longer to fit the rest of the mouth of the grill? just out of curiosity.

[infeKteDx]

was thinking about replacing my CX core with Treadstone core, heard temps are WAY better, is this not true? ....or a bad idea maybe? Treadstone TR8 is 1 inch shorter, but a full 1 inch THICKER, and 1.3 inches TALLER....is it worth it?

[Mistersix]

Originally Posted by infeKteDx was thinking about replacing my CX core with Treadstone core, heard temps are WAY better, is this not true? ....or a bad idea maybe? Treadstone TR8 is 1 inch shorter, but a full 1 inch THICKER, and 1.3 inches TALLER....is it worth it?

If you search the internet enough you can find pics of the inside of the cx racing intercoolers. And they look poorly made. The edges are rough and the welds are not that great. Conversely, more expensive intercoolers are obviously better made particularly on the inside.

I know a lot of people run the CX stuff with success and no problems. I'm not debating usability, but rather quality. There's a reason a big ass core form CX cost 129 and a small core from treadstone cost 220.

For me, i'll use CX for piping and couplers and the such. But as for the core i want something a little better.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by Mistersix If you search the internet enough you can find pics of the inside of the cx racing intercoolers. And they look poorly made. The edges are rough and the welds are not that great. Conversely, more expensive intercoolers are obviously better made particularly on the inside. I know a lot of people run the CX stuff with success and no problems. I'm not debating usability, but rather quality. There's a reason a big ass core form CX cost 129 and a small core from treadstone cost 220. For me, i'll use CX for piping and couplers and the such. But as for the core i want something a little better.

honestly i had a CX core (rich's in this thread) and a TR8 (for mike aka @MS3inDC) in identical sizes and other then the fin density inside, everything was identical as far as quality goes.

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by Mistersix If you search the internet enough you can find pics of the inside of the cx racing intercoolers. And they look poorly made. The edges are rough and the welds are not that great. Conversely, more expensive intercoolers are obviously better made particularly on the inside. I know a lot of people run the CX stuff with success and no problems. I'm not debating usability, but rather quality. There's a reason a big ass core form CX cost 129 and a small core from treadstone cost 220. For me, i'll use CX for piping and couplers and the such. But as for the core i want something a little better.

This is pretty much where I am. I am waiting on my TR8L...

[p057]

Originally Posted by cld12pk2go This is pretty much where I am. I am waiting on my TR8L...

So you think the TR8L is better than the regular TR8?

what are your thoughts on it?

[cld12pk2go]

Originally Posted by p057 So you think the TR8L is better than the regular TR8? what are your thoughts on it?

Which is better depends on one's POV. The TR8 would be easier for me to mount/fit.

But in the end for me it is just an engineering decision based upon my flowrate requirements. Even if the TR8L is slightly less efficient at heat transfer, I have plenty of meth/eth to tolerate that.

I am electing to go with the TR8L instead of the TR8 as I would be pretty much at the max flow rating of the TR8 (around 2 PSI press drop) and the entire point of upgrading is to greatly reduce my current ~5 PSI IC restriction with my CXRacing IC0035.

I am hoping to be in the 1-1.5 PSI pressure drop on the TR8L.

[Docnox]

Thanks for writing up the washer tank install, I've been putting that off too long.


I guess it doesn't really matter but what size bolts did you use to mount your intercooler and connect the brackets??

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by Docnox Thanks for writing up the washer tank install, I've been putting that off too long. I guess it doesn't really matter but what size bolts did you use to mount your intercooler and connect the brackets??

i just found something that fit the square tubing i used.

[Bjf]

Exellent tip on the reservoir.
unfortunately no one seems to be shipping it overseas...

Suppose that reservoir is just intended for your market since it listed to fit only usa-vehicles.
Would have been great to just pop in to the local parts-shop with the part no, but i'm sure i will find something that works.

You guys don't have headlight washers on your MS6:es there?
Haven't really noticed until i read skates reservoir howto and saw that only one pump was installed in thw new reservoir.

[superskaterxes]

nope no headlight washers haha

[Nathan 6]

So much great info on this thread, thanks skate.

[cletusb]

@superskaterxes; Great write up dude, wondering if you are able to post a part list at all and how you connected it together from Turbo to TB