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(Thread Starter) |   Neutral : +4 score  SilverDemon/JM Fabrications Intake Manifold Interest Thread Important... this is not a thread about who wants what, this is just a show of intent to buy, because lets face it, if we cannot get enough people together to show the vendor we want a manifold, no one will ever produce it. 1: Trex 2: Dano 3: MicaBlueMS3 4: manelscout4life 5: Ziggo 6: CKmazdaspeed3 7: bbogue4 8: NJspeed3 9: wankular 10: superskaterxes 11: pavetol 12: 11cruzito11 13: darkthunder 14: bucker 15: bluestreak 16: burn813 17: snyeed 18: speed6 killah 19: cwpms3gt 20: crazyP 21: redneckrecon 22: mazdanspeed3 23: sore anus 24: Enki 25: essejkcamraw 26: uranium9v 27: dougefresh_ 28: I Love Brownies 29: blackstar 30: laxplayermjd 31: JMEngineer 32: doubleflusher 33: AJ713 34: zenger 35: Alpha 36: MindCrimes 37: MDD5148 38: JCMS07 39: SuperSpeed3 40: KeeMo577 41: Wolly6973 42: mtnrunner 43: driver311 44: jacksonms30 45: angr-e1 46: charlesfist 47: TsuNAMie 48: qtrmile beast 49: MS6MS6 50: The_Caruch 51: TWOptSlow 52: HelmetFace00 53: J-Liss 54: spnkr21 55: RhoadBlock 56: Tomas 57: SFWD 1934 58: magika 59: super_pablo 60: Fobio 61: Nitroengie 62: phate 63: zx2man 64: scarms3 65: 06ms6er 66: evidence 67: Nataphen 68: ganque 69: xcoldricex 70: JSLMS6 71: speedseis88 72: hamptotl 73: bcmurphy87 74: austin102085 75: mazdafreak 76: mason 77: Jarods7920 78: dTurboman 79: eppopipe 80: Ferg 81: ManiacMx3 82: MarineMazda 82: urville 83: BobtailedSnail 84: Zprice 85: mrspeed10 86: MS3-oholic 87: Soeedie6 EDIT: heres some picts of the manifold if you dont want to do any searching STATS: OEM Manifold after porting (32 cfm differential or about 16%) Runner 1) 212 Runner 2) 239 Runner 3) 233 Runner 4) 207 SiverDemon's Intake Manifold (8 cfm difference or about 2.9%) Runner 1) 274 Runner 2) 281 Runner 3) 282 Runner 4) 278 Holy Cow!! I am done with the number graphing!! I want to take minuet and thank everyone of you guys for your patience!! You guys rock, and you are one of the main reasons why I tackled this project...(and well Anthony beating on me to get this released). I thought it would be easier to decipher if I plotted everything on graphs. I imported the raw data in Excel spreadsheet and simply inserted graphs from there. I did not even look at the raw data as I was importing the graphs, I just copied and pasted in the order that Anthony and Tyler sent them to me. I had to leave it up to them to send the info in the correct order. On to the results. We will start off with Tyler's results. As most of you already figured the manifold did not gain a huge amount of power or torque on a mild bolt on stock turbo. It seemed though after I graphed everything out the car maintained about 8 - 10 G/S across the entire RPM range. It did pick up about 6 - 8 HP. I will let Tyler chime in on drive ability and throttle response. Tyler's Before Dyno: Tyler's After Dyno: On to Anthony's supremely anal, over the top, insane amount of data..hahah!! Anthony literally spent 4 hours on the dyno, grabbing about 27 data logs and graphs. This is what took me so long to sort through and graph everything. Keep in mind that there was no tuning between manifold swaps. There is probably more power left on the table, but he did not want to skew the results by trying to squeeze the last little bit out the JM manifold. He did 3 pulls at 26psi, 28psi, and 30psi. One with the stock intake, one with the JM intake/stock throttle body, and the last one with a big throttle body (I believe it is an 80mm, but I will let him elaborate more about it). As you can see in the graph below, a significant increase in G/S with just the intake and stock TB. The Dyno charts are listed in the order of the graphs. Stock manifold first, JMF manifold stock throttle body next, and then JMF manifold with the big throttle body. Then the large TB was added and it simply picked up more G/S... Graph set of the 28psi runs. Graph set of the 30psi runs. I sure do hope this is what everyone was looking for in the data gathering. The three of us spent some time deciding how to achieve the appropriate way to gather the data in the most non biased way.
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I would think the balance of flow would help almost anyone out.
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The first few pages of pics were wiped out do to the site crash, but towards the end of the thread is all the info with pics
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Usually their vendors prices are a bit cheaper..
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