cp-e™ Nano dyno numbers!

[www.cp-e.com]

Took a bone stock SPEED3 to the dyno today to get some numbers. Ended up increasing peak power and torque by +14hp/9tq, but made more torque elsewhere in the powerband (+16tq at 5500rpm):

[fat_dave]

sweet!! when do they officially go on sale??

edit: oh and pics of the final product would be verrry nice

Ok...Im a little out of the loop I guess....what heck is the nano?.....sorry

[atomicms3]

Originally Posted by jcgemt2003 Ok...Im a little out of the loop I guess....what heck is the nano?.....sorry

the nano is cp-e's SRI-type intake.

[08.5TRS3]

SRI

Ok...I searched....thats a nice freaking piece guys. Nice work. I think Ill be putting my order in for one. What size is the maf housing and do have options for larger?

[bioevolve]

That is close to COBB's output, was that whp wtq?

[arkenzo]

Originally Posted by bioevolve That is close to COBB's output, was that whp wtq?

Cobb's dyno'd at around +11hp / 16lb tq , but i dont know if they were different dyno's or if the weather conditions were different

[Strytnyne]

hell yea definately getting this now..

[superskaterxes]

what dyno did u guys use? im talking location not type. would it happen to be a mustang dyno, maby say, 2 doors down? =D

[DeadWayt]

This was done on a Dynojet. I also had the chance to cruise around a bit with the Nano installed after we finished up at the shop.

If anybody has questions about the product (or the testing, for that matter), post 'em up. We'll be happy to answer.

[arkenzo]

Originally Posted by DeadWayt This was done on a Dynojet. I also had the chance to cruise around a bit with the Nano installed after we finished up at the shop. If anybody has questions about the product (or the testing, for that matter), post 'em up. We'll be happy to answer.

When will they go for sale and how mucho?

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by arkenzo When will they go for sale and how mucho?

im going up there tomorrow. if they have any i'll snag em. i will bully, and plead. 200 is what i heard initially. i'll see if there is final pricing and post when im there.

[Sacrilicious]

Originally Posted by arkenzo Cobb's dyno'd at around +11hp / 16lb tq , but i dont know if they were different dyno's or if the weather conditions were different

you can tell that this dyno had some heatsoak, so i wouldn't doubt that the power gains will be better on the road. i never really doubted that this intake would make good power...just glad to see it so close to market...=d

[SgtP]

cant wait to get one and ditch the Cobb.

[arkenzo]

Originally Posted by palerider im going up there tomorrow. if they have any i'll snag em. i will bully, and plead. 200 is what i heard initially. i'll see if there is final pricing and post when im there.

dooooo it

[phailerider]

Originally Posted by SgtP cant wait to get one and ditch the Cobb.

you gonna be around homeboy?

[copperkid]

Is the intake attached to the engine or the frame? What type of filter did you decided to use in the kit? Any color options?

And finally when and how much?

bump

[MS6_Auburn_Fan]

How is the fit on a MS6?

[SgtP]

Originally Posted by palerider you gonna be around homeboy?

most likely not. i have some things to take care of this weekend but i still might be able to make it there. its up in the air right now.

[RUMBLEFISH]

Originally Posted by palerider im going up there tomorrow. if they have any i'll snag em. i will bully, and plead. 200 is what i heard initially. i'll see if there is final pricing and post when im there.

Could you start a group buy thread so us guys in the forum get first dibs?

[oskinosmee]

Originally Posted by palerider im going up there tomorrow. if they have any i'll snag em. i will bully, and plead. 200 is what i heard initially. i'll see if there is final pricing and post when im there.

Anyone else coming down?

[DeadWayt]

Originally Posted by copperkid Is the intake attached to the engine or the frame? What type of filter did you decided to use in the kit? Any color options? And finally when and how much?

This may change before final production, but for now it doesn't have a retaining mechanism. It just secures to stock inlet.

Also, the vacuum plug is quite nice. You don't need a rubber tube like you do with the CAI. It has a lip so the stock retaining clip slips right over it and it's in a near-stock location, so no funky routing issues.

For now, they have the same (AEM?) dryflow filter they're using on the CAI. In fact, the filter we used for these runs came right off an XCel CAI.

Price and color options aren't my territory. I'll let Jordan hit those when he gets back to this thread.

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by fat_dave sweet!! when do they officially go on sale?? edit: oh and pics of the final product would be verrry nice

We'll allow people to start buying these once we begin final product, which I'm hoping will be sometime next week maybe.

I unfortunately don't have any pics of the final product because we're not yet done with the bracket, nor have we finalized how the MAF housings are going to look. What we dyno'd was just our prototype. Once we have what we'd consider a finished example I'll post a picture for you guys.

Originally Posted by jcgemt2003 Ok...I searched....thats a nice freaking piece guys. Nice work. I think Ill be putting my order in for one. What size is the maf housing and do have options for larger?

Thanks!!

The MAF housing at the moment is between 2.5" and 2.75". We're working on a 3.25" MAF, and if we have enough demand we'll gladly produce a 3.25" Nano.

Originally Posted by superskaterxes what dyno did u guys use? im talking location not type. would it happen to be a mustang dyno, maby say, 2 doors down? =D

Nah, not yet unfortuantely. We went down the street to Infinite Speed and Performance.

Originally Posted by copperkid Is the intake attached to the engine or the frame? What type of filter did you decided to use in the kit? Any color options? And finally when and how much?

MSRP has been set at $210, but dealers will likely carry it at ~$199.

We haven't finished the bracket or the fine details like color options yet, but I believe the bracket attaches to the frame. We're well aware that people are worried about breaking things with so much engine movement, and we're addressing this.

Originally Posted by MS6_Auburn_Fan How is the fit on a MS6?

Not sure! We'd love to get an MS6 in here to find out though...

[oskinosmee]

3.25 how would the car act to that?
I might buy one

[ATE BALLER]

You would need a tune.

[oskinosmee]

Originally Posted by ATE BALLER You would need a tune.

Is the stock size a restriction? What are the perks for having a bigger MAF housing? Drawbacks?

[ATE BALLER]

Yes, it is a restriction. If you can open it up and get it dialed in where the ECU is happy, it'll be alot better flow, and you can run alot more air through there before the sensor maxes out.

[oskinosmee]

Cool i really want one now. Mazdaspeed CAI for sale anyone?

[steven88]

does anyone know the maf size of the cobb sf? just wondering because I def want to pick up this piece...but I am worried it won't be compatible with my cobb AP

[xact]

Originally Posted by steven88 does anyone know the maf size of the cobb sf? just wondering because I def want to pick up this piece...but I am worried it won't be compatible with my cobb AP

Same question here. Don't they have to be the same diameter as stock in order for the MAF to measure accurately?

[Cherryspeed]

Originally Posted by xact Same question here. Don't they have to be the same diameter as stock in order for the MAF to measure accurately?

Larger maf requires establishing new maf transfer functions in the ecu. The nano has been flow tested by CPE with different size pipes to establish the correct figures. The larger maf housing is a requirement for the few guys out there that have so much flow that they have maxed out the stock voltage.
The ecu needs to be re-flashed with the new tables.

I plan on running a larger maf version of the Nano (Jumbo Nano? on my set up and Josh is considering stocking the larger unit if the demand is there.

This is a very sexy part in person...nice to see CPE bringing some bling to the table...lol.

[Silver Ecstasy]

I was really hoping it would be $199 with introductory pricing of $175. There would be a flood of orders.

[MS6_Auburn_Fan]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ +1

[Haltech]

Originally Posted by Cherryspeed Larger maf requires establishing new maf transfer functions in the ecu. The nano has been flow tested by CPE with different size pipes to establish the correct figures. The larger maf housing is a requirement for the few guys out there that have so much flow that they have maxed out the stock voltage. The ecu needs to be re-flashed with the new tables. I plan on running a larger maf version of the Nano (Jumbo Nano? on my set up and Josh is considering stocking the larger unit if the demand is there. This is a very sexy part in person...nice to see CPE bringing some bling to the table...lol.

I concur... Big Turbo guys need the larger MAF housings and a recalibration. About time someone listened as i have been talking about this for over a year now.

[BaseballD2]

So this is for the ms3 only? no ms6..?

[Silver Ecstasy]

Think of the humility..

$175 - same price as cobb, just as good of a product (if not better) and it comes out in only weeks!!!

[4thStroke]

cant wait to get one and ditch the Cobb.

Has the Cobb been giving you problems? Why do you suspect the nano will be superior?

[Silver Ecstasy]

I think people just have a love/hate relationship with Cobb right now. They'd love to run their products, but a list of issues has everyone criticizing them. I don't blame them one bit.

Cobb doesn't really seem to be keeping it's customers best interest in mind. They're on the forum, yet it seems like they just fluff it with a quick answer, then resort to future plans and projects when the current products or projects are coming up with issues and lack of workmanship.

Hence, people would love to snatch a CP-E product because at this point, it only seems guaranteed that CP-E may have learned from Cobb's deadily mistakes and is going to capitalize on a market starved for a SRI!

I'm not a customer of either yet, so I can't say which i'd go with. I'd always wanted a Cobb SRI, but hated the oiled filters. So, CP-E seems pretty attractive for that reason alone. I, however, won't buy the CP-E at full MSRP because I know they're just taking advantage of the fact people were selling their Cobb SRI's for $210, $250, etc. etc. It's good business on their part since they know people will pay for it and they can bank on it. My priorities are just in better order, and i'll save the extra dough for free shipping and $35 dollars less. I'll oil the damn filter if I have to.

But then again, I don't want a Cobb SRI ruining my intake bracket, whereas CP-E is designing a standalone, reinforced bracket.