long awaited turbo manifold is out!!!

[superskaterxes]

FWIW, you can fit every single ATP stock flanged turbo in our engine bay.

[mason]

I got a gt35R back there with plenty of room to spare if the manny puts the turbo in the rite spot.......

but im curious to see just were the cpe manny sits, if i was to buy the cpe manny id be going with the tial housing for sure. be nice to see some pics with the 35R installed.

[MS3inDC]

The statement was that you could fit any size, any scroll.

I have no doubts you can fit any stock size/t25 flanged turbo in there...

Twin-scroll tubular mani is what that f-r post is talking about...

I'm not the one to debate the actuality of this, but based on their experience in doing nothing but engineering turbo kits, I can't dismiss their opinion...

[Adam is so pro]

[mason]

i got a twinscroll GT 35R to fit with plenty of room to spare

[Boosted Beluga]

How is that working out for you? ^^^

[www.cp-e.com]

On MSF first! (Sorry it took a bit longer than I said).

Sorry I didn't take better pictures of the clearance between the block. This should give you an idea that there aren't any fitment problems with the TiAL housing. It is tight though, FR is correct, It would be very difficult to get anything else larger than that in there.

[06Speed6]

Anything else larger than what exactly?

[www.cp-e.com]

Ah, I will attach the pictures.

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by 06Speed6 Anything else larger than what exactly?

The Compressor housing is close to the block as it is, and the exhaust housing is positioned in such a way that the DP has to have a rather tight radius to clear the alternator. Anything larger than a 35R (ie 4088, 4294, 4202) wouldn't fit very well / at all with out massive relocation work.

[SilverDemon]

Massive relocation is what the modding game is all about.....

How about a 3.5" od inlet pipe that will fit the the 35r? I am trying to fab one up...and it sucks!! Shifter cables, and heater hoses are kicking my ass...

[Tokay444]

I see intake mani!

[06Speed6]

So the em works with the 35r and smaller turbos, has it been tried with any efr turbos?

[RedBliss]

I wanna hear sound clips of the equal length!

[Brian MP5T]

[Tomas]

The aren't going to be many people who might run anything larger than a GTX3582. I think size wise we are OK with the Garrett line up to 35 frame size. Twin scroll is really what's needed so you can have less back pressure via larger A/R and better spool.

I bet a twin scroll GTX3582 with a 1.06 housing would spool as fast, or even faster, than an ATP housed GTX3076

[Celestspeed3]

But could you even use the power? I decided on the GTX3076 with the Tial 0.82 turbine. There just didn't seem any piont to going larger.

[doubleflusher]

I use the power just fine, after 120.

[Celestspeed3]

I figured I might as well use the power to get to 120 faster.

I'm going to be swapping gears back and forth between the 1 and 2 gen trannys. I'm going to make the ratios longer. I hope there will be less wheel spin and more acceleration since the car will now be making the power for it.

I'll keep everyone posted as to how it goes.

[www.cp-e.com]

Originally Posted by 06Speed6 So the em works with the 35r and smaller turbos, has it been tried with any efr turbos?

We have not tried the manifold with anything EFR yet. I would love to, although time is tight right now, and it may not be in the cards for a while.

[ChimmyChong]

Cell Phone pic is SHITTY but this mani looks really nice in person...

Dude running this setup is holding 25psi to redline on the stock k04! lolol

[MS3inDC]

Originally Posted by ChimmyChong Cell Phone pic is SHITTY but this mani looks really nice in person... Dude running this setup is holding 25psi to redline on the stock k04! lolol

Who? Where?

[ChimmyChong]

Originally Posted by MS3inDC Who? Where?

-_- Cum out to the Hard Time's meat & find out!

You show him yours and he'll show you his

[Tokay444]

I wonder how much more power he'd make at 20 psi when I doesn't have a goddamn flame thrower on the end of that mani.

[ChimmyChong]

His BAT's weren't that bad surprisingly. I think they where like 110ish during his pull, Stock TMIC too lol
Prob be horrible as the months pass

[06Speed6]

25psi at -40*F? Our turbo cant flow that much air and I am not sure that the stock tmic can either. The fact that he did it with 110* bats tells me it was really cold and this was not a normal run. Thats like 2.7 load which is unheard of for the stock turbo, im running around 2.3 under 4k which is on the high end.

Having said that, props to cp-e to making a mani that can pull that off at any temp.

[superskaterxes]

FWIW, that same installer had multiple install issues with this manifold. I dont know the full story but i have been told it relocated the turbo so you need to bend the oil/coolant lines, you cant actually reuse the stock studs because the runners block the holes on the turbo flange, and you need to remove the VC to get it on there (not a deal breaker but i doubt it was mentioned in the instructions).

@drummermike58 can tell you/verify the rest, just putting it out there. Also the installer is a helicopter mechanical for the military and has all sorts of car projects going on so hes no n00b.

[TRSpeed]

25psi on k04? what

[Tokay444]

Sounded stupid to me too.

[mason]

Originally Posted by Boosten Ya(josh) How is that working out for you? ^^^

it fits just fine!!!! just to small of A/R to take the effect of TS. if it was T-4 it would FIT, and then work just fine! there is plenty of room back there if you put the turbo in the rite spot, and sound like CP-E could have came back torwards the firewall a lil. time will tell i guess.

[drummermike58]

FWIW here is a log of said 26 (now 30 initial) psi k04 EWG...

He is sorting out afrs next revision as you see they go well into the 13s... but no knock, car pulls hard as shit... no e85, no meth, stock topmount, UR turboback exhaust, inj seals, mbc, cpe mani, tial 44mm ewg, 3bar map sensor, hpfp, step colder plugs... VD says 319/451 4th gear log.

[86AmishMs3]

Sex...i want

Originally Posted by drummermike58 FWIW here is a log of said 26 (now 30 initial) psi k04 EWG... He is sorting out afrs next revision as you see they go well into the 13s... but no knock, car pulls hard as shit... no e85, no meth, stock topmount, UR turboback exhaust, inj seals, mbc, cpe mani, tial 44mm ewg, 3bar map sensor, hpfp, step colder plugs... VD says 319/451 4th gear log.

Jesus Christ!!! 30psi/240g/s before 3000rpms.....damn!

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes FWIW, that same installer had multiple install issues with this manifold. I dont know the full story but i have been told it relocated the turbo so you need to bend the oil/coolant lines, you cant actually reuse the stock studs because the runners block the holes on the turbo flange, and you need to remove the VC to get it on there (not a deal breaker but i doubt it was mentioned in the instructions). @drummermike58 can tell you/verify the rest, just putting it out there. Also the installer is a helicopter mechanical for the military and has all sorts of car projects going on so hes no n00b.

More info please...like installer and whose car those logs came from.

Glorified Bozo is running 30psi with stock mani (I think).

E85 tuned to spike to 30 psi...

[drummermike58]

This is my buddy jonathan. @jbirriel69 he never comes on here.

Anyhow that car spools in like .001 seconds. Its stupid how fast it occurs. We were neck and neck last night with me at 22psi at 8* advance. And no KR btw....
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[davinspeed3]

Originally Posted by drummermike58 This is my buddy jonathan. @jbirriel69 he never comes on here. Anyhow that car spools in like .001 seconds. Its stupid how fast it occurs. We were neck and neck last night with me at 22psi at 8* advance. And no KR btw.... Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk

Hey that's the guy I sold my bov too, lol. @drummermike58 can you shed some light on what issues he had on the install? I have mine coming soon and wondering what I can expect. I think I still have his e-mail from the sale so may shoot him a e-mail and ask him also but incase I don't could you maybe give me some insight? Thanks

[qtrmile beast]

Hey mike i want to check that out next week when/if we do the timing chain..

[86AmishMs3]

Originally Posted by drummermike58 This is my buddy jonathan. @jbirriel69 he never comes on here. Anyhow that car spools in like .001 seconds. Its stupid how fast it occurs. We were neck and neck last night with me at 22psi at 8* advance. And no KR btw.... Sent from my SGH-T959 using Tapatalk

What the hell are you doing at 8 degrees advance, start ramping timing up

[RichieRichness]

only 270 g/s....John needs fmic asap and he will make so much more power! Crazy fucker!

@ChimmyChong not holding 25psi to redline dude...knowone can do that on k04...knowone I tell you!

Originally Posted by 06Speed6 25psi at -40*F? Our turbo cant flow that much air and I am not sure that the stock tmic can either. The fact that he did it with 110* bats tells me it was really cold and this was not a normal run. Thats like 2.7 load which is unheard of for the stock turbo, im running around 2.3 under 4k which is on the high end. Having said that, props to cp-e to making a mani that can pull that off at any temp.

not unheard of at all...just not common. I'm hitting 2.6+ at 3k and holding till 4500 rpm.

[drummermike58]

Originally Posted by davinspeed3 Hey that's the guy I sold my bov too, lol. @drummermike58 can you shed some light on what issues he had on the install? I have mine coming soon and wondering what I can expect. I think I still have his e-mail from the sale so may shoot him a e-mail and ask him also but incase I don't could you maybe give me some insight? Thanks

Just to clarify a few things. This manifold is nice as shit. There were only a couple minor hiccups that were resolved by buying a couple new bolts, no biggie. You DO NOT have to relocate your turbo for this mani. In addition, Jonathan and I installed this mani from the top. It was built with the idea that it should be installed fromthe bottom. Like remove dp, turbo, etc which we did not want to do. We scratched the firewall before realizing you need to remove the vc t install from the top. Alsoyou will need two hex head bolts to replace two studs on turbo flange and one stud needs three threads removed from its length (nut side of stud) to fit under the fifth runner.

If installing mani from the top, remove the top most passenger side manifold stud and the valce cover to get it it fit.

We were the first ppl to install this manifold so of course there were a couple very minor corrections needed. CPE has been notified and are likely going to make adjustments. I am likely going to get this mani and i already have a dnp. Great craftsmanship and the EWG being optional is huge...

[sg1320]

That tial housing is pure sex!!

Are you guys going to be offering a vband dp for this setup? gtx3076r 0.82 tial housing