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Tokay444 07-08-2015 08:02 PM

Who wants an Atmosphere downpipe.
 
I've asked time and time again and have been told CP-e won't separate the dp from the atmosphere kit.
Perhaps we can drum up enough interest to make them change their mind.
Let them know there's money to be had.
Let them know that if they don't want that money, someone else will happily step up and take it.
Who wants one?

SpeedRebirth 07-08-2015 08:41 PM

They truely are a work of art

http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...08-05-2220.jpg
http://mazdaspeed.se/board/img/uploa...08-08-2385.jpg

shadesofgray19 07-08-2015 08:44 PM

LOL... They will never fall for this. They don't care about making money.

Code Monkey 07-08-2015 08:47 PM

Too little, too late.

Wolfmanstein 07-08-2015 09:59 PM

i doubt this will ever happen

jdmage_mx5 07-08-2015 09:59 PM

After dicking around with my CPE manifold and CPE down pipe (non atmosphere do) I think it's STUPID they won't sell it separately.

As everyone knows trying to install a normal CPE dp with the CPE manifold is next to impossible because of O2 sensor placement. Pretty idiotic designing on their part and idiotic purchase on my part. One would think two parts designed by the same company would work together.


In the end, I would be down for just an Atmospheric dp. Then I would sell the current dp to recoup some of my mistake.

Wolfmanstein 07-08-2015 10:02 PM

yikes i have a new dp and mani to install from cpe... wish me luck

jdmage_mx5 07-08-2015 10:32 PM

If the dp is new send it back and get a different one. The O2 sensor placement is so damn close to the Tial EWG once fully assembled it makes me slightly uncomfortable.

Both pieces are exceptional individually; together they suck big time.

Wolfmanstein 07-08-2015 10:44 PM

Ill just weld a bung in if it gives me a problem.... but cpe why no not sell separately :(

Mauro_Penguin 07-09-2015 06:50 AM

I'd be interested. So long as cpe doesn't try to strong-arm some ridiculous price hike.

Easter Bunny 07-09-2015 07:30 AM

At this point we should just send one to China to be reverse engineered.

HawkeyeGeoff 07-09-2015 08:41 AM

It is definitely the best thing ever. I can confirms

Wolfmanstein 07-09-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauro_Penguin (Post 2913672)
I'd be interested. So long as cpe doesn't try to strong-arm some ridiculous price hike.

I'm sure the price would be really high if they decided to offer it

Tokay444 07-09-2015 12:25 PM

So what's that 3 of us? Maybe 4? Just on the first page.

Wolfmanstein 07-09-2015 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2913898)
So what's that 3 of us? Maybe 4? Just on the first page.

Seems like a lot of people would buy one

865ms3 07-09-2015 12:40 PM

This will release right after the intake manifold.....

I bought a vband dp from fj for my precision. Dump tube wasn't plumbed in obviously and Was a little short...but may have been bc of my manifold. Who knows.

SHOULD fit all stock location turbo setups

Wolfmanstein 07-09-2015 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 865ms3 (Post 2913903)
This will release right after the intake manifold.....

I bought a vband dp from fj for my precision. Dump tube wasn't plumbed in obviously and Was a little short...but may have been bc of my manifold. Who knows.

SHOULD fit all stock location turbo setups

When does the IM come out?

Dano 07-09-2015 01:10 PM

I have this exact setup and you just have to use the secondary bung, but I agree with your evaluation.

you can't always make things either backward or forward compatible though.



Quote:

Originally Posted by jdmage_mx5 (Post 2913602)
If the dp is new send it back and get a different one. The O2 sensor placement is so damn close to the Tial EWG once fully assembled it makes me slightly uncomfortable.

Both pieces are exceptional individually; together they suck big time.


Mauro_Penguin 07-09-2015 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny (Post 2913693)
At this point we should just send one to China to be reverse engineered.

If and only if the chinezzes have a valid engineering license.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2913898)
So what's that 3 of us? Maybe 4? Just on the first page.

I'm pretty sure more people would be on if they realized what this thread was. It's been brought up a couple of times and unfortunately their response is always very bah hum bug. Which is silly because the manifold and downpipe are the best parts of that whole kit, everything else including their turbo options can be replaced with better competitor parts.

jdmage_mx5 07-09-2015 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dano (Post 2913922)
I have this exact setup and you just have to use the secondary bung, but I agree with your evaluation. you can't always make things either backward or forward compatible though.

I had to use the secondary location up by the bell mouth and still had to cut .125" off the threaded hole and remove the heat shield from the O2 sensor and cable tie the wires to the sensor just to keep the wires from touching the EWG. As it is now I can maybe fit a paint stick in between the wires and EWG. If they would move the bung over .5" it would solve all of the problems.

But I do understand this would require recasting of the bell mouth.

acousticdefbot 07-09-2015 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfmanstein (Post 2913905)
When does the IM come out?


Dano 07-09-2015 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jdmage_mx5 (Post 2914007)
I had to use the secondary location up by the bell mouth and still had to cut .125" off the threaded hole and remove the heat shield from the O2 sensor and cable tie the wires to the sensor just to keep the wires from touching the EWG. As it is now I can maybe fit a paint stick in between the wires and EWG. If they would move the bung over .5" it would solve all of the problems.

But I do understand this would require recasting of the bell mouth.

oh yeah the ole EWG...yes that would suck.

edit: even with the entire kit there is very little clearance for an O2.

Easter Bunny 07-09-2015 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mauro_Penguin (Post 2914000)
If and only if the chinezzes have a valid engineering license.

I'm sure that China has a factory churning out knockoff engineering licenses so no worries there.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfmanstein (Post 2913905)
When does the IM come out?

Never.

Wolfmanstein 07-09-2015 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny (Post 2914023)
I'm sure that China has a factory churning out knockoff engineering licenses so no worries there.



Never.

Just like this dp probably won't ever happen

Tokay444 07-09-2015 04:00 PM

Sell the fucking downpipe @www.cp-e.com;

SpeedRebirth 07-09-2015 04:34 PM

When I bought the atmosphere kit cpe told me that the v-band hotside had to be machined a little bit to fit the kit. Im not 100% sure what they acually machined off though.

It is a bit tight to get the o2 sensor on yes, but it works. Taking the plastic/metal cowel off makes it 10 times easier. And doing it before the wastegate is also a good idea

Dano 07-09-2015 05:00 PM

lol I had to "machine" my v-band flange on the EM just to get the cap for the EWG to seal.

IMO vband is not what it's cracked up to be, or maybe it's just CPEs implementation.

Tokay444 07-10-2015 06:13 AM

I hand lapped all the mating faces of my setup.
Tial needs to adjust their machining practices. Even the flanges that hadn't been welded to anything weren't flat, and there was obvious distortion in the form of a tri-oval, which is dead give away that they just squish them in a 3 jaw chuck to face the critical mating surfaces.

jdmage_mx5 07-10-2015 06:53 AM

It's funny this is getting brought up. My EWG to manifold vband will NOT fully seal and I'm starting to get a build up of exhaust crap around it.

I need to quit being lazy and try to fix it.

Dano 07-10-2015 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2914303)
I hand lapped all the mating faces of my setup.
Tial needs to adjust their machining practices. Even the flanges that hadn't been welded to anything weren't flat, and there was obvious distortion in the form of a tri-oval, which is dead give away that they just squish them in a 3 jaw chuck to face the critical mating surfaces.

in my case I can't blame Tial...its all CPE.

so IMO v-band is not the end all, be all of connectors.

Tokay444 07-10-2015 02:16 PM

I'm pretty sure they buy the flanges from tial.

Dano 07-10-2015 02:19 PM

well then fuck tial :)

Tokay444 07-10-2015 04:28 PM

@www.cp-e.com;

someguy 07-12-2015 07:00 PM

Why don't you just get some other vendor to build one? Obviously cp-e doesn't give a shit about the mazdaspeed community.

Tokay444 07-13-2015 05:36 AM

I'm surprised Just Borrowed Racing hasn't copied it yet.

Easter Bunny 07-13-2015 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2915733)
I'm surprised Just Borrowed Racing hasn't copied it yet.

Can you make a silicone downpipe?

Easter Bunny 07-13-2015 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tokay444 (Post 2915733)
I'm surprised Just Borrowed Racing hasn't copied it yet.

In all seriousness I wish someone would.

neganox 07-13-2015 12:19 PM

I'll make one with some cat engraving.

Wolfmanstein 07-13-2015 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neganox (Post 2915949)
I'll make one with some cat engraving.

When you do hit me up !

g00s3y 07-13-2015 01:06 PM

So, people are serious about this? I have a friend, who also drives an ms3, and is a very good welder (7+ years, it's his job, he's already done a bunch of crashbars and exhausts, and is currently finishing up an exhaust manifold for me) and would be very much for making these.

So just like the CP-E atmosphere DP, but with the o2 bungs in a different place? Would an ebay long dp, with the EWG recirc welded to it with a small flex part just like the CPE one? I'm guessing that's really the basics, and then a choice to have a cat welded in also if needed?

I would have to talk to him about it, and see if he would even have any time to take on another project right now.


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