MAPerformance Pre sale on Swift Spec R springs for the Mazdaspeed 3!!!!!

[maperformance]

That's right we are offering a pre sale on the long awaited Swift Spec R springs for the 2nd Gen Mazdaspeed 3
We are doing a pre sale for 10 sets of these springs. This is first come first serve these will be ready to ship at the end of this month!! Pricing is 314.25 Shipped

Swift made Sport Springs Spec-R is made for true track racing enthusiasts that wants to take their vehicle to the next level.
Sport Springs Spec-R is engineered with 2 main characteristics.
1 Redesign lowering ride height to maximize the suspension performance allowing the vehicle to fully absorb road condition for maximum traction.

2 Increase in spring rate to further enhance cornering speed through entry & exit. The increase in spring rate is based on the vehicle factory stock valving settings. Sport Springs Spec-R is increase to the optimal rate that the stock shocks can handle. Higher performance shocks are not required, but recommended.

Spec R springs are wound with the same engineering as our sports springs. With the exception of stiffer rates and slight change in ride height; you can expect the same characteristics as our sports springs.

Specs:
Drop in front: 1.1"
Drop in rear:1.2"
Spring Rate 4.5kg/mm all around



PM me with any questions.You can pay by clicking the button below via PayPal. Enter in the total where it says $0.00 and include a brief description of what is being ordered.

Thanks,
Chris Burd

[JS + MS3]

OMG IT'S FUCKING FINALLY HEREEEEEEEEEE

[DONOTBUGME]

@Soto maybe you want to give your thoughts about them

[TexasSpeed3]

omg fucking finally!

[Scoobs]

Fuck, I need so cash, too much want too little money

[specvspeedfreak]

good... looks like my call to swift the other day worked.

[specvspeedfreak]

before

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after


These are pics of prototypes on day 1 of install but final ones are the same specs

[Remspeed3]

So what springs are on the Black speed3 above.. sports or spec-r? I want springs for a daily driver that ride almost like the stocks, so what do you recommend?

[SleeperHatch]

Ouch seems like alot for springs

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Remspeed3 So what springs are on the Black speed3 above.. sports or spec-r? I want springs for a daily driver that ride almost like the stocks, so what do you recommend?

spec-r's of course... these are fine for daily. The black speed is SOTO's car, maybe he can chime in, but he already has said they are great. I am sure there will be more reviews once final product gets into people's hands. if you look into gen2 suspension section you will see the thread on this<there are link/reviews on page 1 from other platforms.

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 Ouch seems like alot for springs

then you need read up on Swift, cause you don't know what your talking about. You spend over 20k on a car and you wouldn't spend and extra $50-100 on great engineering/product?
No need to judge without knowing your facts

[warlord]

Fuck yeah! I just ordered a set. Loading up my credit card as usual.

[SleeperHatch]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak spec-r's of course... these are fine for daily. The black speed is SOTO's car, maybe he can chime in, but he already has said they are great. I am sure there will be more reviews once final product gets into people's hands. if you look into gen2 suspension section you will see the thread on this<there are link/reviews on page 1 from other platforms. then you need read up on Swift, cause you don't know what your talking about. You spend over 20k on a car and you wouldn't spend and extra $50-100 on great engineering/product? No need to judge without knowing your facts

Read again I didn't judge them at all just said it seemed like alot for springs...I'm sure its a great product

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[daafisch]

I know these would probably work on a Gen 1 but are they going to be making Gen 1 specific ones?

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by daafisch I know these would probably work on a Gen 1 but are they going to be making Gen 1 specific ones?

they have all the r&d done for the gen1. Last thing I heard is they will see how well the gen2 does then go from there....I started the same thread for gen1 guys but it got merged when it was announced Swift would start on gen2 first....there wasn't as much interest i guess.

[daafisch]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak they have all the r&d done for the gen1. Last thing I heard is they will see how well the gen2 does then go from there....I started the same thread for gen1 guys but it got merged when it was announced Swift would start on gen2 first....there wasn't as much interest i guess.

The Gen 2 has a slightly different weight distribution that's why they aren't marketed towards both correct?

[specvspeedfreak]

that and other suspension differences, but I am not sure what they are all. If you call Swift, they can explain. ..but i know 35% increase for us would mean more for the gen1, not necessarily a bad thing (I mean if you were to put these on a gen1)

[mrmonk7663]

Springs ordered via paypal. Thanks!!!

[TexasSpeed3]

grrr monk buying all the stuff i want

[maperformance]

Thanks for the Orders. I will be sending out PMs to those who Pm'd shortly.

[mrmonk7663]

LOL it's not intentional lol!!! Hmm, you can always help me install it

Originally Posted by TexasSpeed3 grrr monk buying all the stuff i want

[maperformance]

Who needs a set?

[Soto]

FYI

Ive been running these springs for over 3000 miles or so...

they still feel like they did on day 1

Very comfortable, hugs the road, and looks good.

In my opinion, the drop is perfect, it doesn't ruin the handling characteristics of the car, it only improves them..

These are great for daily driving, speed bumps aren't much of a hassle, only REALLY deep pot holes that i run into in LA.... =(

great springs........now I'm hoping to pair them with some koni yellows and get some decent tires, then its on.



and the stock struts are working fine, no sign of wear or tear..

[TexasSpeed3]

Originally Posted by maperformance Who needs a set?

for free? please

[maperformance]

Nope not free sorry. Good try though lol

[eppopipe]

I really want these. How long you think stock struts would hold up?
My car is my DD even through the awesome ohio winters.

[warlord]

Impossible to say. It's like asking how long your engine will last with mods. Swift says they designed the springs to work within the limitations of the stock struts and shocks. Stock spring rates are around 170. Swift spring rates are 250. So not a huge difference.

[eppopipe]

Defiantly gonna go with swift springs if i do drop it then.

[maperformance]

Yes these have been designed to work properly with the stock struts. From what I have seen from other platforms I do not see any issues occurring from the springs.

[maperformance]

[specvspeedfreak]

how many more of these are left?

[Nliiitend1]

LOL at use with stock dampers.

When will a company who makes springs grow some balls and just tell people straight up that they need aftermarket dampers (and actually give us springs engineered with that given in mind)??!

As before, I maintain that the OEM dampers (even Gen2s) are not up to the task of properly controlling a spring with roughly 30% more rate that also permits more than 30% less overall suspension travel.

If you guys all want to fool yourselves into thinking you've made your suspension awesome by throwing these springs on with the OEM dampers go ahead, but don't try to blow smoke up the asses of those of us who know better.

[mrmonk7663]

the MAP vendor stated to me in PM that these would work with Koni FSDs but from other things i've researched i'm skeptical on that claim. Thoughts?

[Nliiitend1]

I woudn't pair FSDs with anything other than the OEM springs.

[mrmonk7663]

That's what I figured.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Nliiitend1 LOL at use with stock dampers. When will a company who makes springs grow some balls and just tell people straight up that they need aftermarket dampers (and actually give us springs engineered with that given in mind)??! As before, I maintain that the OEM dampers (even Gen2s) are not up to the task of properly controlling a spring with roughly 30% more rate that also permits more than 30% less overall suspension travel. If you guys all want to fool yourselves into thinking you've made your suspension awesome by throwing these springs on with the OEM dampers go ahead, but don't try to blow smoke up the asses of those of us who know better.

Swift always has recommended higher performance shocks.. its even on their website...and i know you know alot about suspension but how do you know gen2 struts can't handle 30% increase in spring rate? Have you personally tested them or something? People tune differently, and who knows if Mazda's tuning is 100% perfectly matched. I'm sure Swift knows a lil more than you...

We know one thing for sure.. struts will probably wear out quicker. No big deal, we all know that..As for performance, like i stated above ...and do we need you to test drive a stock gen 2 then one with these springs or something? Soto is the only person that has these and loves them, says it better.. that's all we can go off by right now.. maybe someone will actually do a benchmark. Until then i'll put my money on these performing better.

and the thing is.. most will match these up with higher performance struts anyway..so your point is almost mute..it's something that you can't prove 100% nor can I. I went to them because I know their reputation and knowledge about springs.. I mean that's all they do, engineer performance springs.. they make nothing else.. look at other companies and most are not like SWIFT...actually I don't know of any personally.

Ill add one more thing that's on my mind. Besides pure performance differences, how they feel in different conditions or just overall matters to me the most. From day to day stuff (hitting a bump, bad patches of road, bumpiness,etc), how it feels taking a hard corner, how it feels under hard braking... you know the rest.. improving on these things is what Swift is known to be good at.

[mrmonk7663]

I'll be installing mine as soon as they come in. Tell me what yall need me to do for "tests" and if I can do them, I will.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by mrmonk7663 I'll be installing mine as soon as they come in. Tell me what yall need me to do for "tests" and if I can do them, I will.

the only way I can think of for performance difference is taking it to a track (an actual road course or auto cross)..They have test and tune days at many of them..do as many laps/runs and get an average time. then do the same with swift being the only change.(under similar weather conditions and same track)...even then people will say you know the track better and that's why you got better times (if you indeed do).but that's the only way..unless you can do skidpad, g's, etc testing.


but really just let us know how they feel for the day to day stuff..

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak Swift always has recommended higher performance shocks.. its even on their website...and i know you know alot about suspension but how do you know gen2 struts can't handle 30% increase in spring rate? Have you personally tested them or something? People tune differently, and who knows if Mazda's tuning is 100% perfectly matched. I'm sure Swift knows a lil more than you... We know one thing for sure.. struts will probably wear out quicker. No big deal, we all know that..As for performance, like i stated above ...and do we need you to test drive a stock gen 2 then one with these springs or something? Soto is the only person that has these and loves them, says it better.. that's all we can go off by right now.. maybe someone will actually do a benchmark. Until then i'll put my money on these performing better. and the thing is.. most will match these up with higher performance struts anyway..so your point is almost mute..it's something that you can't prove 100% nor can I. I went to them because I know their reputation and knowledge about springs.. I mean that's all they do, engineer performance springs.. they make nothing else.. look at other companies and most are not like SWIFT...actually I don't know of any personally. Ill add one more thing that's on my mind. Besides pure performance differences, how they feel in different conditions or just overall matters to me the most. From day to day stuff (hitting a bump, bad patches of road, bumpiness,etc), how it feels taking a hard corner, how it feels under hard braking... you know the rest.. improving on these things is what Swift is known to be good at.

Fair enough.

I just get tired of the marketing approach that claims that "these springs were engineered for use with OEM dampers".

Did they make sure they didn't increase the rates to the point of them being dangerous when paired with the OEM dampers?? Probably, but that still doesn't mean that they work well. People like to make the statement, "Oh well, they'll just wear out a bit quicker." It's not exactly that simple. Damper valving is optimized for vehicle weight, balance, and spring rate. Changing one of those variable appreciably (like say, 30%) necessitates the alteration of the valving in order for the new oscillations of the suspension to be properly controlled under the same situations. You're right that when you don't, your dampers will wear more quickly. Did you think about why? It's because they're moving more. They're moving more because they aren't controlling the oscillations as well, which means that your car is not controlling wheel movement as well as it can.

I'm sure the engineers at Swift DO know more about suspension tuning than I do (well shit, I'd at least hope so considering that I'm not a suspension engineer by profession), but I also would hope that it isn't the engineers touting that the springs are OK for use with the OEM dampers. Unfortunately, the marketing people seem to think that they have to blow smoke up peoples' asses to sell springs, and they might be right. I just want people to realize that's what is being done.


Oh, and while my point may be moot, it certainly isn't mute. It never had a voice.

[specvspeedfreak]

lol.. For shits and giggles, I recommend calling Swift for yourself since you know all the technical stuff and let them tell you all the stuff that goes into their spring design. Talk to leonard.. just report back.. I want to hear what you think.

ohh and the statement about them wearing out quicker is from what I have heard about using higher springs rate.. Also heard that they wear out only when they hit the bump stops.. so Im not sure..just using the worst case scenario.

[maperformance]

I don't think at any point we stated that the optimal suspension set up is swift springs with OE struts. Actually at no point did we say that. We did say that these will work with the OE struts which they do. Will you see better performance in the handling of your car with these springs and stock struts? YES. Will you see an even greater increase in handling using these Swift springs with an aftermarket performance strut? YES