GB: GROUND CONTROL + KONI SPORT Coilovers for Mazdaspeed 3!

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by RPM This will not work with Bilsteins. Only stock shocks and Konis.

Might work with the Corksports adjustables as well, last I'd read they were the same dimensions.

[RPM]

Originally Posted by JgamB Might work with the Corksports adjustables as well, last I'd read they were the same dimensions.

That's true. Theoretically, it should work with anything that's the same dimensions and shock travel as stock. The Bilsteins are not, so they won't work, but it's possible that other brands may work. I'm just not sure if they've been tested, or not.

[Adog35]

Originally Posted by Bap I am on aggressive ride with 525 front and 550 rear. car handles really well with them I am enjoying them.

How does it ride on the freeway and in real world driving?

[Bap]

It is a firm ride handling is excellent, real ruff roads can be a bit much. but i am happy with my set up.

[802MS3]

Originally Posted by Bap It is a firm ride handling is excellent, real ruff roads can be a bit much. but i am happy with my set up.

what are you using for bumpstops?

[Bap]

Originally Posted by 802MS3 what are you using for bumpstops?

ground control

[therza2169]

Originally Posted by RPM Alright, we have a bit more information which should answer most of the questions that have been posed. The perches MUST be cut off of the KONI shocks in order to use the GC kit. GC is going to send me instructions on how to do that, so I'll post those once I receive them. The pricing in the first post was based upon the off-the-shelf KONI shocks with no modifications and no bump stops. I'm currently talking to GC about removing the perches and including bump stops. I don't know if this will add to the cost, or how much, but once they get back to me, I'll follow up and let everyone know.

Any update on them removing the perches, and including bump stops? If they will do that I will most likely be down.

[RPM]

Originally Posted by therza2169 Any update on them removing the perches, and including bump stops? If they will do that I will most likely be down.

Still waiting.. Should have an answer later today.. They're Pacific time.

[therza2169]

Originally Posted by RPM Still waiting.. Should have an answer later today.. They're Pacific time.

Ahh makes sense. Thank!

[RPM]

Talked to GC. They're still waiting to hear back from KONI regarding the warranty stuff, availability and such. They were hoping to hear back today, but the guy they need to talk to has been out for most of the day. If he does get back with them today, they'll forward the information along to me. If not, we'll try again tomorrow!

I apologize for the delays, but we want to be 100% clear on the warranty, perches, bump stops, etc., before we give an update and get this thing going. The last thing we want to do is mislead anyone. We're VERY pleased with the response, so far, though. I have a feeling that this will be quite a successful GB!

[covelife1016]

Can we use paypal or bill me later on the group buy?

[RPM]

Originally Posted by covelife1016 Can we use paypal or bill me later on the group buy?

Absolutely!

[Jonathanhair07]

GC+konis 100%

[skiptowncat]

I'm at about 50% for konis+GC

[easy]

im in 75% GC only .... been waiting for this option to come to the ms3!!

[skiptowncat]

Quick question - can the konis be adjusted whilst still on the car, I'm sure I read somewhere that they couldn't.

[daafisch]

The rears have to be removed. The front can.

[Domino81]

Where's the bottom perch adjust rest on the front strut?

[Bap]

The adjustment threaded body slides over the top of the stock strut body or koni body.

[Domino81]

So this is different than the stock Koni yellows I have?

[Bap]

Originally Posted by Domino81 So this is different than the stock Koni yellows I have?

The only difference between your konis and the ones in the picture is that they just have the lower spring seat removed from the strut.

[RPM]

Okay, so this is what we have so far.

1) GC can sell us a kit that will work *WITH* the perches. You lose 1/4"-3/8" of possible drop in the front, but otherwise, the kit is exactly the same. This might be a good option for those who already have KONIs and don't want to cut them.

2) If GC cuts the perches, they will honor the warranty. If the user cuts the perches, they should still be covered, but if there was a warranty claim and KONI suspected that there was damage due to the cut, the warranty could be denied.

3) The prices we have quoted thus far do not include cutting or bump stops. We're currently in negotiation with GC for them to provide both the cutting and the bump stops so that this will be a complete kit and so that there will be no questions regarding the warranty. We're not sure how much (if any) this will affect the prices. We're hoping it won't affect them at all.

Unfortunately, we won't have an update on (4) until Monday, but stick with us! Our goal is to provide a complete kit with a full warranty for the best price possible!

[Chimmike]

Looks like this is a better and better option!

Glad GC finally supported our platform.

[daafisch]

So it sounds like Koni only cares about the inner cartridge and not the perch. Good news.

I also like the news that they could make the collar fit WITH the perch. This would make it easier if and when I have to warranty my shocks again. Gives me the option of doing advance replacement again.

oooooo this is getting sexier and sexier.

[[R]usty]

Awesome work @RPM; interested in the kit that will work with the perches intact. I don't mind losing some drop I wasn't planning on dropping much anyway. Any pictures of what those will looks like?

I'll adjust to my wanting level to 95%

edit

found a pic online with what it will most likely look like.

EDIT by RPM: Picture removed to avoid confusion. Actual picture of kit is 6 posts above in a picture posted by Bap.

[Domino81]

Or we could cut the perches ourselves?

[daafisch]

Originally Posted by Domino81 Or we could cut the perches ourselves?

Yea. That's how they were originally released a few months back. It's one of the reasons I haven't bought them yet. I already have 32k on my yellows and they were warrantied once already. Granted the original ones I had before were the MZ3 version since the MS3 version didn't exist.

[Domino81]

Sorry this seems like déjà Vu to me considering this is EXACTLY what the probe and mx6 guys used to have to do.

[Jonathanhair07]

im out. i just ordered sonic tuning coilovers

[RPM]

Originally Posted by Jonathanhair07 im out. i just ordered sonic tuning coilovers

Thanks for letting us know.

For what it's worth, I looked into those, as well as a few other low cost coilover kits and they offer very little info in terms of what is actually adjustable (rebound/compression) and I can't find any shock dyno charts at all. As such, I am confident that the KONI Sports are a superior damper.

[Dumbguy]

If GC is going to be cutting the Koni's then Im in for both.

GC + Koni's 100%

[RPM]

The update you've all been waiting for!

We had to add $40 to each of the full kits, but they now include:

• Ground Control bump stops
• Perches cut by Ground Control
• KONI shocks rebound pre-set to match springs
• Full warranty on all parts through Ground Control, including modified KONIs

Technically, we can still honor the old pricing if you don't want any of the above, but we believe that all of the above is easily worth $40. Heck, just the bump stops would cost you nearly that much!

The original post has been updated. We just need 5 more to reach the 20+ pricing and we still have 2 weeks left! Getting to 40+ is probably a bit of a stretch, but I figured I'd go ahead and include it anyways, just in case. It would be a nice surprise!

[timmcc02]

GC+KONI 1000%, I wish you could ship sooner!

[[R]usty]

Wow @RPM; seriously great job putting this all together. These prices are great.

For those who don't want to do the math at the current pricing you're saving $108.05 on the shocks and coils alone that doesn't even include bump stops and perch removal.

I'm 100% buying.

[therza2169]

Great job @RPM!!! GC+KONI 100% here.

[Bap]

Originally Posted by RPM The update you've all been waiting for! We had to add $40 to each of the full kits, but they now include: Ground Control bump stops Perches cut by Ground Control KONI shocks rebound pre-set to match springs Full warranty on all parts through Ground Control, including modified KONIs Technically, we can still honor the old pricing if you don't want any of the above, but we believe that all of the above is easily worth $40. Heck, just the bump stops would cost you nearly that much! The original post has been updated. We just need 5 more to reach the 20+ pricing and we still have 2 weeks left! Getting to 40+ is probably a bit of a stretch, but I figured I'd go ahead and include it anyways, just in case. It would be a nice surprise!

GC bump stops $12 each, $7 for the grinding blades, $3 for spray paint, not having the head ache of having to cut off the spring perches for a few dollar savings. Nice job with the group buy that is a good deal.

[daafisch]

@RPM; You had mentioned they could provide just the GC kit that is the correct length so cutting the perches is not needed. Is this still an option?

[RPM]

Originally Posted by daafisch @RPM; You had mentioned they could provide just the GC kit that is the correct length so cutting the perches is not needed. Is this still an option?

Yes, it is. It would just be a variant of the GC only kit listed in the first post.

[- POD -]

You guys are seriously killing my wallet....

What would shipping be to Edmonton Alberta?

[RPM]

Originally Posted by - POD - You guys are seriously killing my wallet.... What would shipping be to Edmonton Alberta?

For just GC? or GC+KONI?