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I'm gonna guess 375/370. What are the specs on the new cam and what heads are you thinking of. I have a LS1, so always interested.
Going to go with AI's 226cc (243 based) program. Cam is a custom spec EPS grind: 226/230 .604"/.604" 113 +3
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LC-2 wideband wiring into stock ecu is complete... pretty clever really.

The idea is that Corvettes do not have an EGR system, but other engines in the same family do, so the ECU has that pin "open" on the ECU. You could still datalog "EGR valve frequency", but with no wire/input it's just going to read zero.

So I wired one of the analog outputs of the LC-2 to that pin on the ECU. Obviously the ECU won't "know" it's a wideband signal or be able to do anything with it logic wise, but the ability to datalog true AFR with RPM and other parameters is convenient. The signal just comes in as a voltage value that the ECU again doesn't really know what to do with, but thankfully with EFILive you can create custom PIDs and units, so it's easy to convert that to an AFR readout.

Still don't have a good full gear datalog to see where AFRs are. I did do a quick test before I had it wired into the ecu and in 2nd gear I was getting 13.0:1 AFR. Probably sounds lean for you guys, but that's pretty standard for bolton LS1/6.

Still planning on hitting up the dyno tomorrow.





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What's the price point on that cnc program?

A lot of people on the forum seem to bitch about the smell of catless systems but my ms6 has been catless for years and I can live with it in my daily. Are they just pussies or is a high valve overlap v8 really that smelly?

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$995 for the full cnc port job. AI and TEA seem to be the really highly rated and cost around the same. Texas speed/PRC has one too, it's around $800 I wanna say. Of course for me I'm going to get uprated springs and some other goodies while I have the heads off and to support the cam install.

http://www.advancedinduction.com/LSX...cGMLS2Head.php

Smell isn't that bad really. I'm still on stock cam, but the LS6 cam is pretty aggressive for a stock cam anyways. Maybe a lil stronger than my MS3 or Miata was. It's noticeable, but I don't mind it or it does not bother me. I was idling in the garage for 10-15 minutes earlier tweaking some of the wideband stuff and I survived, lol.

With a cam, naturally it's just going to depend on how much overlap it has. I really don't have a lot of good info for ya here.... It seems like some are just a lot more tolerant to the smells than others, which is why you see opinions all over the spectrum.

If this car were a DD I'd probably lean towards running cats, especially with a 'larger' cam, but that's just me.
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390hp/377tq SAE on the best run. Correction factor was 0.98. Dynojet.

Pretty much what I expected, but always nice to have some real data for comparison purposes. Doing heads/cam here soon...hoping for around 450!!!



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390 right on the money with my guess. Have you come across any good data in 1 3/4 vs 1 7/8 headers debate? Everyone seems to preach 1 3/4 for "low effort" cars.

A whole lot of circle jerking on the vette forum and its hard to find helpful technical data compared to msf. Everyone has their 2 cents to throw in without much basis. Maybe I just haven't picked up on who the real technical gear heads are yet.

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390 right on the money with my guess. Have you come across any good data in 1 3/4 vs 1 7/8 headers debate? Everyone seems to preach 1 3/4 for "low effort" cars.

A whole lot of circle jerking on the vette forum and its hard to find helpful technical data compared to msf. Everyone has their 2 cents to throw in without much basis. Maybe I just haven't picked up on who the real technical gear heads are yet.

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I too got frustrated with the lack of good data out there or in general on the corvette forums..

I went with 7/8" because I had a feeling I was going to be wanting at least heads/cam down the road and a lil bigger might help. But as you can see in my dyno I don't think I'm really giving up any low end due to the larger primaries? I certainly didn't feel any losses at all. I say go with 7/8" if you get Kooks or ARH. I'd probably opt for 3/4" if I did LG to get the super long primaries.
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Should post the cam specs when you get to it if you don't mind!
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I think I've posted them twice on this thread Already
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The Miata was dyno'd there on stock block (275/250) and they also took apart the engine, post spun-bearing lol.



I'm trying to get them to send me the dyno run file so I can scale the HP and TQ axis' better etc.
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Man I love how smooth V8 power is.
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H/C/I incoming?

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H/C/I incoming?

Nice.
Just the H/C for now... intake at a later date perhaps. But I could always cave and get a FAST 92 now, you never know. From a tuning standpoint it makes the most sense to get it all done and over with once, but after H/C there seems to be a steep decline in powah/$$ value.
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Very cool man, are you doing the work or a shop?
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Had a pretty productive day-off-from-work Monday. Removed the old cam..... in with the new cam, Melling oil pump, LS2 timing chain and damper. Most annoying part of it all was getting the steering rack out of the way (you can see it hanging off to the side in a pic or two). And breaking the crank bolt loose was a little sketchy.... 1/2" drive ratchet + 3 foot breaker bar handle (aka floor jack handle), but it came out with no drama.

Still waiting for my replacement crank pulley/harmonic balancer to show up, so I can't do a whole lot more until that's here or else I'd start putting back together whatever I could. 235 ft-lbs torque spec is gonna be interesting too.

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Found the cam spec sheet if anyone was curious:


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Replaced the bearings in the stock rockers today with a full roller setup from Comp Cam.... tedious and time consuming little project, but came out well. Going to be out of town for a few weeks coming up, so probably not much progress for awhile. Oh well, this is exactly why I sent the heads off now.






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And "keeping it stockish" just went straight out the window.
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In the grand scheme of things this is pretty mild and very common etc.

Beyond the mods I'm doing (other than intake manifold, maybe) NA mods are pointless and very small gain for more and more $$$. So really this will be about it for power mods.

Next up I want to get some better tires, I may pull the ones I have off now and try to sell them since they are barely worn, rather than living iwth them for the next 20-30k miles or whatever.

I'll probably need a clutch at some point, but I don't even wanna think about the work and labor involved in that.... just hoping my stocker lasts awhile!!!!

Other than that I just want some track day seat time!
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What does the turn-around time look like for the heads?
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3 weeks ish. Depends on their work load, time of year etc. I should get mine back early December.

I'm out of town for awhile so no updates for a few weeks. Planned it out this way so I'd be getting the heads done while I was gone.
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Found a cool video from the shop that's doing my head porting. Mine should be done this week.

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I've heard that before
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Have you seen this bad boy?
Yesh, I have been following the thread on LS1tech closely. Waiting for some real results... I hope it at least matches the FAST performance and will help drive the price down on both.
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The compromises you do to make the fucker fit under a vette hood . What plenum ? Lol
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The shop doing my heads hit me up yesterday and I should be getting them back next week.... Hoping to get it all back together next weekend, assuming I don't run into any issues.

Going to clean the deck surface and bolt holes today so shit's ready to bolt on for the weekend. Also got some HIDs and LEDs to install, hellz yeah!!!
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I think we may need to rename this thread to the C5Z Rice Build.....

Installed projector headlight housings w/ HIDs, front clear corners with LEDs, LED license plate bulbs, LED tail lights.......... high beam LEDs on the way. Will snap some pics once the car is driveable and out of the garage again.

In other news, I've spent hours cleaning the deck surface, piston tops, bolt holes and installed the lifters/trays..... heads are ready to bolt on once I have them back in my possession.


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Is that shop willing to assemble a Miata motor??? That was quick.
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Heads arrive today.. it's going to be a mad dash to install them, measure for required pushrod length, and order some pushrods via amazon prime overnight shipping, so I can get this thing back up and running before I leave town on Saturday.
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Heads are here and on the car.....tired from the torquing sequence lol.

Turns out I need shorter than typical pushrods, so the size I need are not on Amazon, etc... so I'm not going to get some with overnight shipping and try to wrap this up before the Holidays.






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Advanced Induction 226cc CNC port job on it and milled 0.030" for ~60cc combustion chambers. PSI 1511 "endurance" beehive springs. Stock lightweight hollow/sodium filled valves.

100% CNC Ported Intake, Exhaust, & Combustion Chambers
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Those heads should make some nice power. When is the tune being done?

Excited to see what comes of all this.
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