Dale Gribble's MS6

[dale_gribble]

I have been rolling an NA Mazda 6S (v6 + 5spd) for 4 years and decided to go with the Speed. Actually, a buddy of mine bought a Gen 2 MS3 and I honestly had no idea they were that much faster then my NA 6S. I literally started shopping for a Speed6 almost immediately after my first ride in the Speed3.

Took me a few months. I finally almost gave up hope after 1 month casual searching and 1 month hardcore searching yielded only MS6 junk. Fast forward, I literally almost bought an 04 STi; I had the price negotiated, the bank note in progress and then the day that I went to get the check for the STi an MS6 popped up nearby. It was an 06 Sport WWP 1-owner bone stock with 32k miles. I bought it the next day.

This is my old 6 and the MS6 together.





This is the 6 as received.



So far, I have bolted up an AEM CAI, a CPE TMIC, Cobb TIH and Cobb AP. I am running a Stage 1 OTS map but I intend to start getting into tuning with ATR as I learn more and more. I really don't intend to go beyond these mods besides maybe a catback exhaust at some point.

I picked up some Gen 2 MS3 rims from somebody on this forum (their name escapes me ATM). I have AutoEXE low down springs being delivered tomorrow and I am installing this weekend. I swapped on my CAR LED tails from my old 6 before selling it and this is where I am now.

[TriO]

nice man. looks clean and low mileage...

what happened to the rims off the old 6?? you didn't you stick them on the speed? they look badass...

[ms6forthewin]

nice ride, but dont like the genpoo rims on our car.

if i were you i would consider upgrading your hpfp internals, catback = uselss. if you wanna keep it near stock, get a test pipe and run stage 2 and start calibrating. you should be rolling, go search abilors tuning guide for noobs in the ecu section. well get your ap first lol.

btw where in socal do you live?

[dale_gribble]

Originally Posted by TriO nice man. looks clean and low mileage... what happened to the rims off the old 6?? you didn't you stick them on the speed? they look badass...

Lol. They were a really aggressive fitment and looked like crap on my 4x4 stance Speed6. There was a gap between selling my 6 and lowering this speed, and I wanted it to look nice until then so I didn't hold onto that set. This is what I am talking about. Those wheels need to be basically tucked to look good.

[dale_gribble]

Originally Posted by ms6forthewin nice ride, but dont like the genpoo rims on our car. if i were you i would consider upgrading your hpfp internals, catback = uselss. if you wanna keep it near stock, get a test pipe and run stage 2 and start calibrating. you should be rolling, go search abilors tuning guide for noobs in the ecu section. well get your ap first lol. btw where in socal do you live?

I hear you on the internals and also the exhaust. The catback is more for an aesthetic. I wouldn't mind a little more rumble from the back end. I am going to start researching the internals.

I live in Temecula to be exact.

I also wouldn't say I am a HUGE fan of the Genpoo rims on our cars, but it is going to look 10,000,000x better when I get the springs on. Here's an example from 6Y MAZDA's MS6 (from 6crew, not sure if he is on here) + Genpoo + moar low. I think it looks good, it just really needs the stance to look really good.:



These rims will tide me over for a year or so.

[ms6forthewin]

Originally Posted by dale_gribble I hear you on the internals and also the exhaust. The catback is more for an aesthetic. I wouldn't mind a little more rumble from the back end. I am going to start researching the internals. I live in Temecula to be exact. I also wouldn't say I am a HUGE fan of the Genpoo rims on our cars, but it is going to look 10,000,000x better when I get the springs on. Here's an example from 6Y MAZDA's MS6 (from 6crew, not sure if he is on here) + Genpoo + moar low. I think it looks good, it just really needs the stance to look really good.: These rims will tide me over for a year or so.

Start reading, lmk if you need any help. Our platform is sometimes complicated, but pretty damn fun to learn.

[m4tic]

You had no idea N/A 6's were slow as fuck? Lol

[dubunderpar]

I saw the post on 6crew that said you bought the sti lol. I just took a kid for a ride that said his v6 would hang with me.... He no longer says that.

[TiGraySpeed6]

Yeah.....
I suspect this is gonna be a fun build to watch!

Glad to see you did get the AP- I wasn't sure from the other post yesterday if you were just working with a logger of some sort or an AP.

Do keep an eye on your fuel pressure- if you see it dropping below 1600 during WOT runs, it's on the path to failure. Internals are a fairly quick, easy install.

Enjoy the new play toy!

[tddvrrn]

if i was yew, i'd be buying up some hpfp internals asap. it sounds like you are heading in a direction that will require them..

fueling issues can lead to BOOM!

good luck dood. looks nice.

[dale_gribble]

Originally Posted by tddvrrn if i was yew, i'd be buying up some hpfp internals asap. it sounds like you are heading in a direction that will require them.. fueling issues can lead to BOOM! good luck dood. looks nice.

Thanks. I am seeing fuel pressures around 1700psi at WOT, so I think if I stay where I am then I am good. I really don't think I am going to take the car past Stage 1.

[TiGraySpeed6]

The speed6 HPFP tends to be /slightly/ more reliable than the speed3, gawd knows why. Mine was a freaking animal, right up till it wasn't.

Generically, the pump is pretty much maxed out for stock use, adding either a DP or upgraded IC will flow more air, and potentially take the HPFP beyond it's ability to keep up.

Start to budget for a set of internals, ~$350, and watch your pressure under WOT.

Failures will look like these examples-

[lilred]

Nice purchase, keep an eye on nator socal section we meet in murrieta

[jman46]

Grats on the purchase, you won't regret it. He'll be fine with the mods he has on the stock internals now...I was fully bolted minus my meth and I was still seeing 1600-1700 until I swapped them out when they started to go south in the colder weather.

[dale_gribble]

Originally Posted by lilred Nice purchase, keep an eye on nator socal section we meet in murrieta

Will do, thanks.

[manila]

Nice looking 6. How much did you end up paying for it? The white is hella clean my friend!

[dale_gribble]

Paid 15k for it bone stock. I was more then happy to pay that for it. It was worth it.

[dubunderpar]

Originally Posted by dale_gribble Thanks. I am seeing fuel pressures around 1700psi at WOT, so I think if I stay where I am then I am good. I really don't think I am going to take the car past Stage 1.

Sure you don't.........

[Regulator]

I had a v6 before my MS6. I thought my v6 was quick too lol. I had cp-e intake, mazdaspeed exhaust, and revised throttle body on my old car.

Now I have those car-led tails and the TSW wheels on the MS6, lots more under the hood.

Edit: Yea I said I would leave my MS6 stock too, you will not survive.

[dale_gribble]

Originally Posted by Regulator I had a v6 before my MS6. I thought my v6 was quick too lol. I had cp-e intake, mazdaspeed exhaust, and revised throttle body on my old car. Now I have those car-led tails and the TSW wheels on the MS6, lots more under the hood. Edit: Yea I said I would leave my MS6 stock too, you will not survive.

Haha. My v6 6S had the CPE CAI, TWM STS, Injen catback, ETC throttle controller, optimized throttle body and a few more goods. It isn't a slow car, but it sure isn't a SPEED.

Those TSWs look hot on your car. I really liked the TSWs on my old 6, I just didn't want to go that aggressive on this one (+45mm 18x8.5 with 235/40s). They required a full roll and still rubbed lightly.

[m4tic]

It is a slow car... The throttle controller was just a placebo

[dale_gribble]

^^^ Agreed... Totally different ball game with the Speed6.

[dale_gribble]

Autoexe's are on. I am ecstatic with how they turned out. I am certain they will settle a bit, but this is exactly what I wanted. Less wheel gap but not too low. This is definitely how it should have looked from the factory. Also, I had a clunk since I had the car. I found a loose front sway bar link, so I am now clunkless too.

The care feels 1,000,000x better now. It feels tuned and not squishy at all. Again, this is how it should have come from the factory.

[Black Metal]

I like it clean and simple. Where did you get the autoexe's from?

[dale_gribble]

Street Unit ordered them in from Japan for me. It only took a few weeks and their price was the best. The springs are pricey but I 1) wanted springs designed for the MS6 and 2) I didn't want to go any lower then 1". I was shooting for the 2 finger fender clearance (as opposed to stock fisting clearance). I think when these settle I will be around there somewhere.

I am well versed in changing 6 shocks/springs, so it took me a total of 4 hours to swap them in by myself.

[dale_gribble]

I love the sleeper look of the car. It really looks pretty much like a clean 6. I really don't think anyone but very few out there know that this is a Speed; it is debadged too. I love the surprised looks on peoples faces when I get on it.

[dale_gribble]

What do you guys think? I am contemplating going with a bronze p-coat on genpus.

[TTB yeee]

I was going to say exactly that, powdercoating your wheels will make it look much better.

A dark gunmetal, bronze, or gold would all be good choices. White plus the light silver alloy color don't mix IMO.

[dale_gribble]

I am also going to budget a catted DP and upgraded internals within the next 5-6 months. I guess as soon as you get to a point and get used to it, you just want more.

[Lex]

The MS6 looks great! Congrats on a very clean car. Get those FP internals in there before any other engine mods and consider a custom tune to get the most out of the K04. Keep up the good work on the car.

[redmnsterut]

car looks sick man, way jealous of the white

[celery952]

me wants white in a bad way

[Tenchix]

I want those wheels and in that bronze color.

[dale_gribble]

This is exactly the color I want... Gold Bronze.... I am going to try and get the finish somewhere between this and my bronze TSW Nurburgrings.

[silvapain]

White is right.

I'm surprised at how much I like the GenPu wheels on the MS6. Definitely keep them the stock color, though.

Stop spending money on wheels and get HPFP internals. Otherwise, the car will look really pretty sitting on the side of the road with a vented block.

[dale_gribble]

My HPFP is high 1600s- low 1700s at WOT which from what I have heard is decent margin so long as I don't bolt anything else on. Now, I plan to go stage 2 which includes internals and DP but you are saying that I need to do internals before anything else including bro ho magnet rim bronze p-coat?

I'll not hear of this nonsense. P-coat, then side of the road breakdown on highway, then regret and humiliation, and then internals with complete rebuild. How is my logic flawed?

[Deliverance]

Clean car. i like the wheels a lot!

Not so sure about the bronze though...

[dale_gribble]

This is the powder color I settled on. Should be on next week.



I also ordered a Stratified e-tune, rear diff brace, front engine mount, rear engine mount and aluminum shift housing mounts.

[dale_gribble]

As soon as I make up my mind, I change it. I am 50/50 between bronze and gunmetal.

[TiGraySpeed6]

On white, I'm liking the bronze.
For some reason the gunmetal just looks dirty, but the bronze stands out..