anti lift kit possibly will fit MS3?

[specvspeedfreak]

Well hopefully you guys can return the ALK. Being that they were not installed, I don't see much issue for a refund.

[Todd98SE]

I didn't even need to fully open the box. Edge has a 30% restocking fee so depending on what they say I may sell the kit here on the forum instead.

[Tokay444]

I'm likely buying @Celestspeed3's at what he paid.

[Etipp98]

More people need to buy this.. seriously great for keeping the wheels planted.

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by Etipp98 More people need to buy this.. seriously great for keeping the wheels planted.

I know! ...but it seems more people here rather go fast (over corner fast)

Were you ever able to find out if the anti lift portion is adjustable?

[Todd98SE]

I would take cornering speed any day over straight line speed.

[Celestspeed3]

Originally Posted by Todd98SE Confirming @Celestspeed3 the WALK will not fit Gen2's. The Gen1 and Gen2 swaybars mount completely differently. I looked at using Gen1 mounts for the Gen2 but the necessary holes do not exist in the Gen2 subframe. Also the WALK flanges are not long enough to safely mill out for the extra length needed to mount to the Gen2 subframe. The center line of the bolt would be right on the edge of the WALK flange. Whiteline simply needs to lengthen the flange about 3/4in. on each side to make these Gen1/Gen2 compatible. Back to being disappointed, Todd

That's what I noticed as well. You can use the gen1 bushing I believe on the swaybar but the bushing mount is different. The bars i believe are the same.

[cudaman]

Originally Posted by himurax13 Subbed for results.

Ya, me 2.

[altaprecision]

about the anti lift for gen 2 ? ani info will be apreciate

[Enki]

Originally Posted by altaprecision about the anti lift for gen 2 ? ani info will be apreciate

[altaprecision]

W53288 WHITELINE work in a mazdaspeed 3 2 GEN
VEHICLE APPLICATIONS
Click on your vehicle below for fitment details.
FORD ESCAPE TF FWD/AWD N.AMERICA(2013-ON)
FORD FOCUS GEN 2 USDM(2008-2011)
FORD FOCUS LS, LT MK 2 INCL XR5 & ST(5/2005-2011)
FORD FOCUS LW MK 3 EXCL ST TURBO(2011-ON)
FORD FOCUS RS MK 2 TURBO(2009-ON)
FORD FOCUS ST TURBO(2012-ON)
FORD KUGA TE, TF FWD/AWD(2008-ON)
MAZDA MAZDA 3 BK (AXELA)(1/04-9/09)
MAZDA MAZDA 3 BK MPS, MAZDASPEED3(7/06-12/09)
MAZDA MAZDA 3 BL (AXELA)(10/09-ON)
MAZDA MAZDA 3 BL MPS, MAZDASPEED3(1/10-ON)
MAZDA MAZDA 5 MK 2 & MK 3(2005-ON)
MAZDA PREMACY MK 2 & 3(2005-ON)
VOLVO C30 MK 1(12/2006-2013)
VOLVO C70 MK 2(12/2006-2013)
VOLVO S40 MK 2(6/2004-2012)
VOLVO V50 MK 2(6/2004-2012)

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by altaprecision W53288 WHITELINE work in a mazdaspeed 3 2 GEN VEHICLE APPLICATIONS Click on your vehicle below for fitment details. FORD ESCAPE TF FWD/AWD N.AMERICA(2013-ON) FORD FOCUS GEN 2 USDM(2008-2011) FORD FOCUS LS, LT MK 2 INCL XR5 & ST(5/2005-2011) FORD FOCUS LW MK 3 EXCL ST TURBO(2011-ON) FORD FOCUS RS MK 2 TURBO(2009-ON) FORD FOCUS ST TURBO(2012-ON) FORD KUGA TE, TF FWD/AWD(2008-ON) MAZDA MAZDA 3 BK (AXELA)(1/04-9/09) MAZDA MAZDA 3 BK MPS, MAZDASPEED3(7/06-12/09) MAZDA MAZDA 3 BL (AXELA)(10/09-ON) MAZDA MAZDA 3 BL MPS, MAZDASPEED3(1/10-ON) MAZDA MAZDA 5 MK 2 & MK 3(2005-ON) MAZDA PREMACY MK 2 & 3(2005-ON) VOLVO C30 MK 1(12/2006-2013) VOLVO C70 MK 2(12/2006-2013) VOLVO S40 MK 2(6/2004-2012) VOLVO V50 MK 2(6/2004-2012)

I don't believe that list is correct (wherever it came from).

Whiteline's own site does not list the WALK as being compatible with the BL chassis (Gen Pu) 3/3 MPS. It does, however, list it for the BK (Gen Win), which goes along with what we've been saying in this thread for nearly two years now...

[altaprecision]

is direct fron whiteline ,i called and confirm gen 2,i ordered today, i will inforn about.....

[himurax13]

I tried getting an ALK for my PU several months ago. It was unavailable and there was no indication that they would make one, although they have had 5 years to do so ...

[specvspeedfreak]

Originally Posted by altaprecision is direct fron whiteline ,i called and confirm gen 2,i ordered today, i will inforn about.....

W53288 is caster correcting bushing and not the ALK.

[Nliiitend1]

Originally Posted by specvspeedfreak W53288 is caster correcting bushing and not the ALK.

Lol.

I didn't even think to cross reference the part number he posted...

[Dano]

so lemee see if I have this straight....noob comes into thread where it has been hashed over and over that you can't get said part for PU (well because PU..lol)
asks again, is told, surprisingly nicely by MSF members, no (by more than one person mind you)
then posts up some numbers off whiteline's site, that are the wrong numbers BTW, and is told yet again (nicely) that they are wrong
then proceeds to order the wrong part, only to find out 2 posts later he is

STILL FUCKING WRONG.

this story belongs in the Internet Gold thread for god sake. hahahahah

[Constantin]

On top of that, ALK is a pain to install (from what I'v heard). I still have mine sitting in the box.

Does anybody who installed it can share his experience and may be even a How To?

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by Constantin On top of that, ALK is a pain to install (from what I'v heard). I still have mine sitting in the box. Does anybody who installed it can share his experience and may be even a How To?

I don't see how it would be any harder than installing the regular bushings. The LCAs probably need to come off.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[Constantin]

Originally Posted by himurax13 I don't see how it would be any harder than installing the regular bushings. The LCAs probably need to come off. Sent from Stockish Pu

ALK install is not quite straight forward, unlike regular bushings... At least in my eyes, for now

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by Constantin ALK install is not quite straight forward, unlike regular bushings... At least in my eyes, for now

Whiteline does provide instructions, even if they look like they were drawn in crayon.

[Constantin]

Originally Posted by himurax13 Whiteline does provide instructions, even if they look like they were drawn in crayon.

Those are crap. They say "remove the bushing, install new one - May have to use shop tools"... Actual pictures on how to remove the bushing - that would be golden

[lnumbp]

I just did this installation today. The best advice I can give is to buy a second set of control arms so that you can leisurely remove the old bushings. The rear busing that the ALK replaces was sort of crimped into place on my set of arms, and required a lot of burning, cutting, and cursing to get free. The press that I have access to would not budge the inner most section of the rear bushing until it was properly cut up.

Including the installation of 2 new adjustable endlinks and a bump steer correction kit, this install took 10 hours of time. Be prepared!

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by lnumbp I just did this installation today. The best advice I can give is to buy a second set of control arms so that you can leisurely remove the old bushings. The rear busing that the ALK replaces was sort of crimped into place on my set of arms, and required a lot of burning, cutting, and cursing to get free. The press that I have access to would not budge the inner most section of the rear bushing until it was properly cut up. Including the installation of 2 new adjustable endlinks and a bump steer correction kit, this install took 10 hours of time. Be prepared!

Damn you beat me by an hour.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[lnumbp]

Originally Posted by himurax13 Damn you beat me by an hour. Sent from Stockish Pu

We can chalk that up to the fact that my genwin only has two bolts holding the steering rack to the subframe. I hear that the center bolt is a massive pain to access.

[Constantin]

Originally Posted by lnumbp I just did this installation today. The best advice I can give is to buy a second set of control arms so that you can leisurely remove the old bushings. The rear busing that the ALK replaces was sort of crimped into place on my set of arms, and required a lot of burning, cutting, and cursing to get free. The press that I have access to would not budge the inner most section of the rear bushing until it was properly cut up. Including the installation of 2 new adjustable endlinks and a bump steer correction kit, this install took 10 hours of time. Be prepared!

So, the only way to remove the bushings is to burn/cut them out... Thanks for heads up. I'll be looking for a set of control arms.

So, how does the car feel after You'v replaced them?

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by lnumbp We can chalk that up to the fact that my genwin only has two bolts holding the steering rack to the subframe. I hear that the center bolt is a massive pain to access.

I installed the bump steer kit last summer. Serious pain in the dick to get the middle bolt with a stock DP.

All I can say is that the steering and suspension feels super tight and responsive. All of the previous slop is gone. I doubt the car felt like this when new. The additional torque steer from damaged bushings was eliminated.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[lnumbp]

Originally Posted by Constantin So, the only way to remove the bushings is to burn/cut them out... Thanks for heads up. I'll be looking for a set of control arms. So, how does the car feel after You'v replaced them?

To be clear, I was able to press the front (smaller) bushing out of the control arm. The rear bushing is what put up a fight and ultimately required destructive force.

The car feels fantastic. It's not possible for me to provide a quantitative result of the upgrade, but I am confident that steering inputs are more precise and feedback is more consistent. Also, the bump steer kit has improved the feel over undulations in the road.

It's interesting to note that the front of my car now sits lower. I believe this is due to the fact that the factory rear bushing on the front control arm does not pivot, it actually is under torsion when the car is on the ground. That combined with a lowering spring creates a bushing that is perpetually applying torque to the control arm and was propping the front of the car up. The Whiteline anti-lift kit can pivot freely, so this has allowed the front to settle even more than before. My car is seriously low now, lol.

[CosmicArkie]

How about NVH ? How much (if any) worse?

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by CosmicArkie How about NVH ? How much (if any) worse?

It hard to comment about NVH increase since I am fully mounted, have a 6 puck, and a throwout nearing that sounds like marbles being poured into a blender.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[altaprecision]

received ,instaled ,awesome results., W53288 set for AL and litle more caster
I was able to press the big (hidraulic) bushing and oil out ! .
nvh increase but excelent improve

[Tokay444]

Originally Posted by altaprecision received ,instaled ,awesome results., W53288 set for AL and litle more caster I was able to press the big (hidraulic) bushing and oil out ! . nvh increase but excelent improve

Are you from Montreal?

[altaprecision]

no DOMINICAN REPUBLIC in the caribean betwen Cuba and Puerto Rico
summer al year!

[Tokay444]

Oh.
I'm flying to Alta Precision in Montreal on Wednesday.

[Lex2007]

They are adjustable via the positioning of the entire bushing. the receiving holes for the 2 bolts are oval to allow the bushing to shift forward or backward before being tightened.

Fucking Whiteline doesnt specify how to install them....with bolts touching front of oval or rear. I assume the front to add more caster.

[jomatthe]

Recently contacted Whiteline about the anti-lift kit becoming available for gen2. Not really any new information here. It still isn't available, but apparently is still in development.

Hi Jon,

Thank you for contacting us with your product question. We do have the Anti Lift Kit in early stages of development, but I do not believe that we have a release date scheduled yet and it is unlikely that it would be available this year. Let me know if there is anything else I can help you with.

Thank you,

Jonathan Polidano
Technical Sales Coordinator
Rancho Cucamonga,CA

[patABQ]

I have been waiting for this since I purchased my '12. DO IT ALREADY - Please

[Intruder]

Sorry to resurrect an old thread.

Has anyone heard of a change to the Whiteline KCA428 kit that allows it to be used on the Gen2 as well? Whiteline's US website lists it as being compatible with the 2nd gen. I reached out to Whiteline and someone confirmed the info on the website is correct, but I really doubt that.

[shaneski]

Super Pro from Australia have had them for BLs from years back, they have been in mine for 4 years. Part number SPF3370K , press out OEM bushes and replace with these in the position of the bottom diagram.

[Intruder]

Originally Posted by shaneski Super Pro from Australia have had them for BLs from years back, they have been in mine for 4 years. Part number SPF3370K , press out OEM bushes and replace with these in the position of the bottom diagram.

Any feedback on the performance of the Super Pro anti-lift bushings?