register gallery
 

Go Back   Mazdaspeed Forums >
MAZDASPEED SECTION
>
Mazdaspeed 3 MZR Gen2 Forums (2010-2013)
> 2010 MS3 - Engine, Transmission & Driveline
Garage Calendar Forum Rules Today's Posts Search


Welcome to Mazdaspeed Forums .

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact us.

*When you join MSF as a registered user, there will be No Ads.

*Registered Members get access to the Off Topic Area of the Forum

*Registered Members have an opportunity to upgrade their accounts to VIP, which brings a host of goddies for supporting MSF such as Raffles, Additional Forum Access, More PM Storage, The ability to upload more Images and many other enhancements.

*Registered members also get access to the live chat box!
Reply
 
Bookmark and Share LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 Old 11-14-2018, 03:20 AM   #1
 
Lucid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 23   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Lucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the rough
Thanks: 7
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
(Thread Starter)
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default Crank not sitting flush when building engine

Ok, So It seems I have had problem after problem with this engine build. I thought I was finally over the worst and ready to put it together completely. Only after I had my oil pan on and everything tight I noticed whats in these pictures.
The clearance at the top is almost touching the cradle, and at the bottom its damn near 1/8 an inch! I don't know whats going on, Ive gone back at re-seated all the bearings, looked at the crank, everything I could imagine.
I'm using .25 oversized bearings because I had a spun bearing and had to have a machine shop do some work on the block.
Did they somehow screw up the work on the block or something?
I dont even know what they could have got wrong!!! I'm at a total loss here, anybodys help is super appreciated.

Last edited by Lucid; 11-14-2018 at 12:53 PM.
Lucid is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-14-2018, 11:22 AM   #2
 
Thor Hammer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Santa Cruz, CA.
Posts: 1,847   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Thor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the worldThor Hammer is the leader of the world
Thanks: 1,006
Thanked 609 Times in 468 Posts
Groans: 211
Groaned at 5 Times in 5 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Originally Posted by Lucid View Post
Ok, So It seems I have had problem after problem with this engine build. I thought I was finally over the worst and ready to put it together completely. Only after I had my oil pan on and everything tight I noticed whats in these pictures.
The clearance at the top is almost touching the cradle, and at the bottom its damn near 1/8 an inch! I don't know whats going on, Ive gone back at re-seated all the bearings, looked at the crank, everything I could imagine.
I'm using .25 oversized bearings because I had a spun bearing and had to have a machine shop do some work on the block.
Did they somehow screw up the work on the block or something?
I dont even know what they could have got wrong!!! I'm at a total loss here, anybodys help is super appreciated.

No images.
__________________
2007 MS6- H&R Coilovers/ C-PE Catted DP/Corksport HPFP Internals/ AEM CAI/ ETS TMIC/ CPE Austenite Dual CBE/ CPE TIH/ Synapse Synchronic/ Freektuned/ AP Short Shifter/ AWR RMM and OEM TMM with CS Inserts/ Southbend Stage 2 Endurance/Stop Tech Slotted Rear and DBA T3 4000 Series Front with EBC Reds/CPE xFlex Rear Diff Mount/ Whiteline Rear Sway Bar/DSS Level 2.9 Rear Axles
Thor Hammer is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-14-2018, 12:52 PM   #3
 
Lucid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 23   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Lucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the rough
Thanks: 7
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
(Thread Starter)
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

20181114_040944[1].jpg[ATTACH]20181114_040949[1].jpg[/ATTACH]
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20181114_040909[1].jpg (3.01 MB, 14 views)
Lucid is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-16-2018, 03:33 AM   #4
 
Lucid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 23   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Lucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the roughLucid is a jewel in the rough
Thanks: 7
Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts
Groans: 0
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
(Thread Starter)
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Really? Nobodys got any input?
Lucid is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-16-2018, 06:46 AM   #5
 
Fstrnyou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Near Charlotte NC
Posts: 2,498   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Fstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the world
Thanks: 55
Thanked 712 Times in 555 Posts
Groans: 23
Groaned at 6 Times in 5 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

I didn't snag any pics of my build to compare.

I wish I had enough knowledge to confidently say, "if there's no contact, send it."
__________________
'06 MS6 GT-167k Miles(Forged@157,116)
Manley Pistons & Rods, King Bearings
Stock Head/Cams, Stock Int/Exh Manifolds
Versatuner, 3-bar MAP, ITV22, CP-e TMIC
CS Turbo/DP/RP/HPFP/BPV/R-DiffMount
White Widow F-DiffMount, Whiteline RSB
Rear Russian Bushings, Poly FSB Bushings
Magnaflow CBE, ACT 6-puck/Streetlite
JBR Tru-3.5/3-port EBCS/EGR-D
Damond RMM/PMM/OCC/PCV Plate
Other rides:
2014 F-150 XLT SuperCrew Ecoboost
2002 Tacoma ExtCab 2.4L 5spd 2WD
2004 Olds Alero ECOtec 2.2 - Broken
History:
2008 GSX-R 1000 - Stolen
1988 RX-7 TII - Sold (13.467 @ 105.44)
1985 Camaro - Sold (est. 265bhp 5.7 swap, Edelbrock intake & Hooker headers)
Fstrnyou is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-16-2018, 08:29 AM   #6
 
Jeff23spl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Quebec
Posts: 2,235   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Jeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the worldJeff23spl is the leader of the world
Thanks: 161
Thanked 596 Times in 476 Posts
Groans: 3
Groaned at 2 Times in 2 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

not sure if you ask about the engine rack against the crank in the pictures or the crank against the bloc.

For the rack, i had to install some shim with longer bolts for mine to clear the flywheel.

I don't see how machining a crank could make it seat differently from left to right, you don't works against the side but usually just regrind smaller 1 part and most of the time isn't a main but a rod bearing that worn out so it has nothing to do with crank alignement....Unless you did something wrong with the thrust bearing and even there, you would probably not be able to put the other caps on the crank itself....???

i will compare with the one i have in the garage this week end. Maybe is just because it miss the rear seal frame and look too much out...

And it is the original crank from it's own bloc ? Not a ford crank or something ?


And did you plasti-gage your new bearings just to confirm the machining job against bearing itself?
__________________
Mazda for life...or until i can afford something better...

2007 rusted Speed6... Forged with meth and a 3076 in progress...
1993 Ford Probe KLZE 143dB
2012 Mazda3 Gs-sky 6.5l/100 when transporting speed parts
1989 GM 6.2 diesel pickup
Wife drive 2010 CX7

2007 speed3 burned (i'm proud to ran 12.7s with it)

...Because French Canadian...

If you check for leaks and you didn't made a test under compressor pressure, you aren't done checking for leaks....

Last edited by Jeff23spl; 11-16-2018 at 09:15 AM.
Jeff23spl is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-21-2018, 06:02 AM   #7
Eth Fiend
 
phate's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Auburn Hills, MI
Posts: 6,947   (View Stats)
iTrader: (10)
Rep Power: 11231
phate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the worldphate is the leader of the world
Thanks: 14,868
Thanked 21,735 Times in 5,875 Posts
Groans: 7
Groaned at 17 Times in 14 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Does the crank spin freely in the block? Did you gauge the bearing clearances? Did you measure crank end play?
__________________
-06 MS6
-Corn fed 07 MS3 - Sold



www.mazdamotorsports.com <<--Mazda racer support program that is free to join and will save you a ton of money.
phate is offline   Reply With Quote
 Old 11-21-2018, 07:51 AM   #8
 
Fstrnyou's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Near Charlotte NC
Posts: 2,498   (View Stats)
iTrader: (0)
Rep Power: 0
Fstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the worldFstrnyou is the leader of the world
Thanks: 55
Thanked 712 Times in 555 Posts
Groans: 23
Groaned at 6 Times in 5 Posts
Not Ranked  0 score     
Default

Ditto. I'd assume if the crank spins free and has proper end play....send it.
__________________
'06 MS6 GT-167k Miles(Forged@157,116)
Manley Pistons & Rods, King Bearings
Stock Head/Cams, Stock Int/Exh Manifolds
Versatuner, 3-bar MAP, ITV22, CP-e TMIC
CS Turbo/DP/RP/HPFP/BPV/R-DiffMount
White Widow F-DiffMount, Whiteline RSB
Rear Russian Bushings, Poly FSB Bushings
Magnaflow CBE, ACT 6-puck/Streetlite
JBR Tru-3.5/3-port EBCS/EGR-D
Damond RMM/PMM/OCC/PCV Plate
Other rides:
2014 F-150 XLT SuperCrew Ecoboost
2002 Tacoma ExtCab 2.4L 5spd 2WD
2004 Olds Alero ECOtec 2.2 - Broken
History:
2008 GSX-R 1000 - Stolen
1988 RX-7 TII - Sold (13.467 @ 105.44)
1985 Camaro - Sold (est. 265bhp 5.7 swap, Edelbrock intake & Hooker headers)
Fstrnyou is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Engine Won't Crank nijathomp5 Mazdaspeed3/6 General Discussion 10 01-18-2020 04:25 PM
How To Flush Engine Coolant | Autoblog Wrenched Haltech Automotive News 0 02-01-2017 01:40 PM
Engine Flush? BaggiestPanther MazdaSpeed 3 - Engine, Transmission & Driveline 9 11-27-2016 06:02 PM
Oil and engine flush eaglesct2006 2010 MS3 - Engine, Transmission & Driveline 26 01-01-2015 05:47 PM
Engine Flush? HSpeed3K 2010 MS3 - Engine, Transmission & Driveline 5 05-29-2013 03:17 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:01 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Template-Modifications by TMS
©Copyright 2008 ; 2019 Cymru Internet Services LLC | FYHN™ Autosports HQ
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger
Page generated in 0.28759 seconds with 25 queries