How-to: CP-E Stage 2 Rear Motor Mount

[RallySportDirect]

Yurtle Gets a CP-E Stage 2 Rear Motor Mount

If you would like more product information, you can click any of the images below, or click HERE.

First, let’s give you the rundown about the mount itself.

Mfgr. Warranty: Limited Lifetime Warranty
Color: Black
Durometer: 75A
Material: Aluminum


It is well known that the stock rear motor mount on the MS3 is a weak link and cp-e™ has chosen to think outside the box on this and come up with a completely new design. To do this cp-e™ carefully studied the layout of the stock MS3 Engine Mounts. While designing the side engine mounts it was determined that a better design could be achieved on the rear mount as well.

The way the Mazda engine mount system works is that the two side mounts provide a rotational mounting point, if just these two mounts are installed without a lower engine mount the bottom of the engine is free to swing like a pendulum. Now if you take the stock engine mount and put it in place with its horizontally mounted bushing and you apply some power, it will stop the engine from swinging but you are now stressing the bushing in two directions. These types of bushing are not really meant for this.

So cp-e™ came up with a way to stress the bushing in only one direction, by remaking both sides of the engine mount cp-e™ was able to mount the bushing vertically so now the pendulum affect of the engine is stretching or pushing in only one direction. This also increases the durability of the engine mount substantially.

To accomplish this two blocks of aluminum, starting at 15.81 lbs are slowly whittled down over the course of a couple of hours in our CNC machine to a final weight of 3.53 lbs. This process takes a lot of time but was necessary to give our customers what they want.


Here’s a list of the tools you’ll need to do this yourself:

3/8 ratchet

Sockets: 19mm, 17mm

Wrenches: 19mm

Torque Wrench

Jack, Jack stands, or lift


This is how your mount will come packaged. I am really impressed with CP-E and their attention to detail. Their product packaging is an obvious example of this. You know when a company takes time to package their products this well they really care about what's inside.






When you pull everything out of the box you will be in awe at how badass this mount is. Everyone here was thoroughly impressed when I was opening ours up for the install. CP-E includes awesome color instructions, hardware, a sticker, thank you card and they even have an employee check off each part that goes in the box and initials. I am very impressed with their attention to detail. No one likes being in the middle of a project to find out not everything was included in the package. You won't have to worry about that with CP-E.






This install is very easy and anyone can do it in less than an hour if you include time to get the wheel ramps or jack stands out and the car up on those.
Pull out your sockets, ratchet wrench and box end wrench.





Here is a shot of the stock mount before being uninstalled. Very easy to access all the bolts and no need to worry about supporting the engine when removing this.
Go ahead and pull out the 3 19mm bolts holding the mount to the transmission and the 2 17mm bolts that are left. Set your stock mount in a dark corner of your garage because you will never want to install it after the new ones in.





Prep the new mount by taking the long bolt and putting a washer on it before inserting it through the CP-E mounts.





This part is pretty self explanatory but slide the rear portion of the mount into the crossmember.





Go ahead and toss 1 of the 17mm bolts you just pulled out of the stock unit back in and set the left over one with your factory mount. Install all 3 19mm bolts back into the front portion attaching the mount to the transmission.
The tolerances are very tight and didn't see starting with one bolt versus the other to really matter but you might have to put a little pressure up on the engine to line up a few of the holes before the bolts will go in.





Ensure you take the 2nd washer CP-E includes and put it over the end of the bolt before installing the lock washer and bolt.





Snug up all the bolts.





Grab your torque wrench and set it to 85ft/lbs and torque all 5 bolts down. You will need to grab your 19mm wrench and hold the head side of the bolt while you have the torque wrench on the nut side to get it to 85ft/lbs.





Here is the finished product. This mount looks amazing on the car!




I was a little worried about how much noise and vibration I would get inside the car with this mount but I am very impressed. There is very little at all. Getting in the car and starting it up for the first time with the new mount you can feel the engine starting which I love and then it purrs like a kitten. You will get a little vibration in your rear view mirror but nothing to compared to when I have the stereo turned up.
Pulling out of our shop I could immediately feel a difference. I had urethane inserts in the stock rear motor mount previously which were nice but this CP-E Stage 2 setup is completely different. Steering and gear shift feedback is awesome, much more precise and no jerky 1st gear starts because the engine is rocking with this thing. Previously shifting into 2nd or 4th was a little notchy with the stock mount and inserts but every shift now is super smooth and exact.
This is definitely one if not the first upgrade I would recommend on these cars without a doubt. Very easy installation and for the price you won't regret how much better your car drives.

Enjoy this comparison video:

CP-E Rear Motor Mount on our Yurtle The Turtle Mazdaspeed 3 - RallySportDirect.com - YouTube

CP-E Rear Motor Mount on our Yurtle The Turtle Mazdaspeed 3 - RallySportDirect.com - YouTube

Thanks,
Tanner

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[krimsonviper]

Reviving another dead thread.

The vibrations, did they die down for you and if so, are they noticeable at all now?

[Thor Hammer]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper Reviving another dead thread. The vibrations, did they die down for you and if so, are they noticeable at all now?

Are the vibes really that bad? Man up and enjoy the increased rigidity.

On my MS6 it was barely noticeable. The vibes were slightly less after a few hundred miles.

[Yatta]

I have an S2... the vibes are NOTHING after break in... doing a PMM on the other hand... nope... rear view mirror is useless below 3000 RPM...

[krimsonviper]

Originally Posted by Thor Hammer Are the vibes really that bad? Man up and enjoy the increased rigidity. On my MS6 it was barely noticeable. The vibes were slightly less after a few hundred miles.

Oh I’m definitely going to get a RMM, but I’m still trying to decide which one and what the effects are so I can understand what I’m getting into. Fairly certain my stock one is going to break soon.

[Thor Hammer]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper Oh I’m definitely going to get a RMM, but I’m still trying to decide which one and what the effects are so I can understand what I’m getting into. Fairly certain my stock one is going to break soon.

I think you meant PMM since you just installed the RMM.

I highly recommend Damond Motorsports for the PMM.

Edit: I realize you were inquiring about this mount and haven't actually installed it. I still say get a Damond RMM.

[krimsonviper]

I wanted to transfer this to PM, but I need 15 posts to do so.

I haven’t heard of Damond before. Why do
You recommend it over CP-e?

[Thor Hammer]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper I wanted to transfer this to PM, but I need 15 posts to do so. I haven’t heard of Damond before. Why do You recommend it over CP-e?

Not only are their products top notch but they have done more for this forum and platform than CPE by a long shot.

Search, read, repeat. Stop looking for easy answers. Its all here.

[krimsonviper]

Originally Posted by Thor Hammer Not only are their products top notch but they have done more for this forum and platform than CPE by a long shot. Search, read, repeat. Stop looking for easy answers. Its all here.

Considering I asked why you in particular preferred DM’s mount over CP-e’s, nor would I know which sponsor has done more than the other without actually seeing evidence. I can’t necessarily search that, can I? Not unless I decided to search through your 1200+ posts, or the forum’s thousands of posts, I couldn’t find that answer in a reasonable amount of time. I also do search for my answers before creating a thread and asking questions, so I don’t ask questions with easy answers. You should know this since you looked at my profile here on the forum.

This isn’t my first forum.

Don’t like posts like mine, don’t enable them. People come here for answers and if you don’t want to be helpful, move along. If you’re trying to be helpful, you’re doing it wrong. Don’t act like a caveman.

[Amplified]

so, have you searched yet?

[Thor Hammer]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper Considering I asked why you in particular preferred DM’s mount over CP-e’s, nor would I know which sponsor has done more than the other without actually seeing evidence. I can’t necessarily search that, can I? Not unless I decided to search through your 1200+ posts, or the forum’s thousands of posts, I couldn’t find that answer in a reasonable amount of time. I also do search for my answers before creating a thread and asking questions, so I don’t ask questions with easy answers. You should know this since you looked at my profile here on the forum. This isn’t my first forum. Don’t like posts like mine, don’t enable them. People come here for answers and if you don’t want to be helpful, move along. If you’re trying to be helpful, you’re doing it wrong. Don’t act like a caveman.

Don't get your panties in a bunch fella. Searching for answers is easy. Oh and congratulations on this not being your first forum.

HOW TO: search the forum

Or just click this link:

https://cse.google.com/cse/publicurl...1oxu#gsc.tab=0

For the record I think cavemen are fascinating.

If you use the above search tools and type in CPE RMM you will find lots of opinions on NVH. Similarly you can read about why members love Damond Motorsports products.

[krimsonviper]

Originally Posted by Amplified so, have you searched yet?

Yes. Stuck with the decision to go with CP-e. Based on everything I read, CP-e mount is exactly what I’m looking for. The lowest of added vibes of all the motor mounts that still give good performance. Since I’m not looking to do any performance mods, this should round out the car nicely. If I were going to tune this thing, hands down would I use DM’s mount.

Originally Posted by Thor Hammer Don't get your panties in a bunch fella. Searching for answers is easy. Oh and congratulations on this not being your first forum. HOW TO: search the forum Or just click this link: https://cse.google.com/cse/publicurl...1oxu#gsc.tab=0 For the record I think cavemen are fascinating. If you use the above search tools and type in CPE RMM you will find lots of opinions on NVH. Similarly you can read about why members love Damond Motorsports products.

No panties to put in a bunch. Curious if yours were in a bunch though. Trying to emasculate me since your initial post in here just makes it seem like you’re the one with a sandy vagina.

Thanks for pointing out the search button, Captain Obvious!

[g00s3y]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper Yes. Stuck with the decision to go with CP-e. Based on everything I read, CP-e mount is exactly what I’m looking for. The lowest of added vibes of all the motor mounts that still give good performance. Since I’m not looking to do any performance mods, this should round out the car nicely. If I were going to tune this thing, hands down would I use DM’s mount. No panties to put in a bunch. Curious if yours were in a bunch though. Trying to emasculate me since your initial post in here just makes it seem like you’re the one with a sandy vagina. Thanks for pointing out the search button, Captain Obvious!

You sound like a pussy. A Sandy one.

[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper Don’t like posts like mine, don’t enable them. People come here for answers and if you don’t want to be helpful, move along. If you’re trying to be helpful, you’re doing it wrong. Don’t act like a caveman.

Hahaha, you clearly haven't grokked how this forum is. Let's face it, for the most part the car is kind of raw and the people are kind of raw. Get used to it. All y'all need to calm the fuck down.

Your suggestion that he pointed out the obvious search button is incorrect, aggressive and possibly idiotic. The search button on the forum is brokefuct, and he provided nonobvious answers on how to search the forum effectively.

For what it's worth, I had Damond's mount and now I have CPE's stage2 mount. Which is better for you depends on your level of NVH sensitivity and your power goals for the car.

One reason you're getting flamed is that Rally Sport Direct stopped selling Mazdaspeed parts many years ago. You'll note they aren't in the vendors section of this site anymore. So, Mr. Not My First Forum, necroing this thread was kinda stupid and being Mr. Not My First Forum you probably should have known better.

[krimsonviper]

Originally Posted by aackthpt Hahaha, you clearly haven't grokked how this forum is. Let's face it, for the most part the car is kind of raw and the people are kind of raw. Get used to it. All y'all need to calm the fuck down. Your suggestion that he pointed out the obvious search button is incorrect, aggressive and possibly idiotic. The search button on the forum is brokefuct, and he provided nonobvious answers on how to search the forum effectively. For what it's worth, I had Damond's mount and now I have CPE's stage2 mount. Which is better for you depends on your level of NVH sensitivity and your power goals for the car. One reason you're getting flamed is that Rally Sport Direct stopped selling Mazdaspeed parts many years ago. You'll note they aren't in the vendors section of this site anymore. So, Mr. Not My First Forum, necroing this thread was kinda stupid and being Mr. Not My First Forum you probably should have known better.

You should take your own advice and calm down yourself. I’m not even mad, just returning the feelings I’m getting, so if you think I need to calm down you need to look in the mirror and see where the source of hostility is really coming from.

You mean the search ability that’s located here that I took a look at beforehand actually posting?
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...st-read-99499/
Obvious for smart noobs to look around on a forum to find info. So again, you are assuming things as well. Stop trying to act like you’re better than me and think I’m stupid.

I’m getting flamed because almost every forum member in every forum is a grumpy fuck behind a keyboard who has some kind of god complex of sorts with a need to show they are somehow better than another. Check again about Rallysport not selling Mazda parts. I ordered from them before I noticed RPM selling for cheaper and canceled my order with Rally. I did notice they aren’t a forum vendor anymore, but I didn’t notice the last time they posted, so that part I will have fault in.

You probably should check yourself at the door for facts before trying to correct someone. I also wasn’t questioning why I’m being flamed. I know there are arsonists in every forum by the droves. I have thick skin and a flame suit.

I do appreciate the input regarding the mount.

[Thor Hammer]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper You mean the search ability that’s located here that I took a look at beforehand actually posting? http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...st-read-99499/ Obvious for smart noobs to look around on a forum to find info. So again, you are assuming things as well. Stop trying to act like you’re better than me and think I’m stupid.

You contradict yourself. In one of your posts you stated you don't have time to search through 1200 posts on this forum. So yeah, I said don't look for easy answers and you went off on a long ass highly offended rant. You chose to take that comment personally.

I really don't give a fuck. I was trying to be helpful. I provided search tools as I assumed due to your previous comment you didn't know about them. And you continue to bitch and get offended! LMFAO!

For the record, we tell damn near every noob on here to search the forum that come on and asks questions about things that have been discussed many many times. This forum is an incredible knowledge base. Either they don't know the information is there, how to search for it, or too lazy and want easy spoon fed answers.

[CWP_MS3]

Matt was a fellow enthusiast before he was a parts manufacturer. Cp-e makes very very nice parts, but has had poor customer service, and a track record of being hard to deal with in general.

I've never felt a Damon mount, but plenty of people seem to love them. I do like my Cp-e mount as well though. So your call. Maybe buy through someone who has excellent customer service. That way if you have a problem, you have them on your side to get shit done.

[Pu Manchu]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper Reviving another dead thread. The vibrations, did they die down for you and if so, are they noticeable at all now?

4.5 years for this dumb shit? nice job

[aackthpt]

Originally Posted by krimsonviper You should take your own advice and calm down yourself. I’m not even mad, just returning the feelings I’m getting, so if you think I need to calm down you need to look in the mirror and see where the source of hostility is really coming from.

Ooo, another suggestion of p-sychological projection. Are you sure you aren't Redline under a different pseudonym?

As for Rallysportdirect, good point I guess they do have a few Mazdaspeed parts. Though very few of them except the Cobb stuff are specific, and many are stock parts. Not interesting, and I wouldn't say I'd call them a supplier of MS3 mod parts either. Sort of neither here nor there.