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derek13p 07-21-2014 02:33 PM

Dereks MS6 Build
 
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Dereks MS6 Build


So I've finally decided to make a build thread being that my car is so close to being done.
I picked this MS6 up in december of last year. Had got rid of my 2012 MS3 2 months prior, went to a 350z because it was half the payments, hated it and then found this.
Came with a Turbosmart 50/50 BPV, OCC, Sure Full 3in intake, Sure boost tubes, Sure short shifter, plastidiped wheels.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Immediately I purchased a spare block to start to build.
Got some eagle rods to use in the block and CP pistons.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

I couldnt wait to build the block before modding it so I got JBRs stiffest trilogy set, 3 port ebcs, and a full engine rebuild kit from Edge.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

@KotzurRacing; made me a 2 port pcv plate

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Purchased @PapaSmurf; old gt3582r

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Got a top mount exhaust mani from a guy in Houston.
Was too close to the reservoir and the fact that he asked me if he could see my engine bay made me realise he made it for a MS3.
Test fit it on a 3, good to go, sold it.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Cobb AP v3

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Battery relocated to the trunk

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Got a set of Evo X wheels.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

CX Racing IC piping and a TR8L core installed

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Then This.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

I had oil coming out of my 50/50 bpv, and it was dripping out of my SRI filter... The oil was coming out of my VC breather that was attached to the SURE sri
Got so bad that from San Marcos to San Antonio it lost 2 quarts through the VC into a makeshift Oil Catch Bucket.
Took it to my buddies shop and its sat there since feburary.

Got a beater to ride in for the mean time
1988 300ZX 5spd N/A

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Since then I have ordered and recieved a big ol intake, blasted it down and deciding which color to powder coat it now.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

ACT 6 puck clutch

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Rear diff brace, rsb and lowering springs from Corksport

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Crower springs, supertech +1mm intake and exhaust valves

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Keyed crank and L19 head studs

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

A new top mount exhaust mani for the twin scroll setup

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

New DP and dump tube

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

JMF intake mani w/the port injection system from SP63

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Short block is together

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1405974051

Now just have to get the intake and exhaust cams pinned and it will be time to put everything together and start getting it tuned and broken in.

[R]usty 07-21-2014 02:38 PM

Nice build. Cars going to be a monster.

derek13p 07-21-2014 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa (Post 2654835)
Nice build. Cars going to be a monster.

Thanks! Just looking forward to driving her again at this point. I'll have vdyno and real dyno numbers to post once done.

SofaKingAwesome 07-21-2014 03:17 PM

My nigga! Glad we're getting shit done around here. Let me know if you need hands or any odds/ends.

Pino.yako 07-21-2014 03:48 PM

Man you weren't joking when you were telling about this beast of a build when we met a couple of weeks ago.

Good Job, can't wait to see this in person!

derek13p 07-21-2014 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pino.yako (Post 2654905)
Man you weren't joking when you were telling about this beast of a build when we met a couple of weeks ago.

Good Job, can't wait to see this in person!

Haha yeah, just didn't want to make a thread till it was close to done. Thanks!!

Code Monkey 07-21-2014 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek13p (Post 2654931)
Haha yeah, just didn't want to make a thread till it was close to done.

But you missed out on all the "advices"!!!!

derek13p 07-21-2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Code Monkey (Post 2655029)
But you missed out on all the "advices"!!!!

Hahaha. Well any advice on pinning the intake cam would be awesome since I'm about to tackle that next!

TiGraySpeed6 07-21-2014 08:18 PM

All kinds if win going on here!
Good luck with the build!

Pu Manchu 07-21-2014 09:28 PM

bout fuckin time we see a thread, you've had this car hidden away for months.

best wishes for the rest of the build!

Bulgsta 07-21-2014 10:06 PM

Cant wait to see it running.

Keep us updated

Mazdazilla6 07-21-2014 10:21 PM

Got any pics of the +1 valves installed? I'm looking to do it but there isn't too much info on them.

derek13p 07-21-2014 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 (Post 2655239)
Got any pics of the +1 valves installed? I'm looking to do it but there isn't too much info on them.

I have will get those for you good sir.

2.3speed06 07-21-2014 11:11 PM

Very nice, I like.

jbmazda6 07-21-2014 11:21 PM

Sub'd... every time I see a thread like this it makes me want to build an engine.




Then I realize how much it actually costs. Kudos to you for spending the time and money to do this. Hopefully I can someday.

Kellerspeed3 07-21-2014 11:22 PM

Congrats D, I'm sure your very excited to get her on the road.

derek13p 07-22-2014 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmazda6 (Post 2655271)
Sub'd... every time I see a thread like this it makes me want to build an engine.




Then I realize how much it actually costs. Kudos to you for spending the time and money to do this. Hopefully I can someday.

Yeahhh I realized why people part out before their build is done.. So much monies.

PapaSmurf 07-22-2014 07:39 AM

you cut off the gonzo dick!!! wtf!! ahaha

looks good man.

SpeedRebirth 07-22-2014 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek13p (Post 2654828)

Really awesome build! So much porn going on here! ;)

Could you post up more pictures of how you relocated your battery and what hardware you used?
There is very little info/pics on this and the ones i've seen are not all that detailed. Maby you could even make a thread on it?

:yumyum:

derek13p 07-22-2014 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedRebirth (Post 2655925)
Really awesome build! So much porn going on here! ;)

Could you post up more pictures of how you relocated your battery and what hardware you used?
There is very little info/pics on this and the ones i've seen are not all that detailed. Maby you could even make a thread on it?

:yumyum:

I can see if I can dig up some pictures on it. It was really pretty easy for the battery. @KotzurRacing; has helped me with this whole build from the start and he made me that box. I think it was around 12 ft of 4 gauge wire(have to look back to find out) and then bolted the box to the spare tire cover, then sanded down an area of the frame and bolted the negative to it.

derek13p 07-22-2014 03:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedRebirth (Post 2655925)
Really awesome build! So much porn going on here! ;)

Could you post up more pictures of how you relocated your battery and what hardware you used?
There is very little info/pics on this and the ones i've seen are not all that detailed. Maby you could even make a thread on it?

:yumyum:

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._25_39_pro.jpg
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406065589

The red wire you see going into the fuse box runs into the same hole as the wire harness, sliced a small hole and lubed up the wire a bit and ran it through from under the steering column, pulled it through into the bay with some needle nose pliers, ran it under the box and attached it to the left side(looking from the front of the vehicle) wire post in the fuse box. We got a bit like this
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406065589
(but big enough for the wire we used) and bent it at a 90 and bolted it down with the rest of the lines.
then pulled up the plastic molding along the driver side to the trunk, ran the wire under it till the battery, attached it to positive and grounded the negative

derek13p 07-22-2014 04:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 (Post 2655239)
Got any pics of the +1 valves installed? I'm looking to do it but there isn't too much info on them.

Here you go!
Nice and big for the details haha
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406068548
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406068548
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406068548

About to torque down the head studs
Then tomorrow pin the cams. Will take pics of that process too.
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406068548

derek13p 07-24-2014 09:28 AM

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Okay! So, got the cams pinned and the engine timed yesterday.

First step, get the cams in the head, cam bearing caps tightened down, and cam timing tool in. Should look like this.
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
Notice how on the intake cam you have the 4 holes on the end.

Put the cam gears and timing chain on, release the tensioner pin and let the gears go into place where it would be perfectly timed(I have a keyed crank so the gear on the crank cannot move). We put an allen head bolt in so there would be enough clearance to drill the cam and gear while they were tightened down. Once the bolt was tightened we marked the vvt at 12 o-clock, anywhere between 12 and 1 would work. Really so would 3, 6, 7, 9, and 10 but we chose TDC to use. The exhaust cam you can drill anywhere.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653

From the front of the gear on the exhaust cam to the back part on the cam measured .43 in, so we marked a 3/16 drill bit .4 in from the tip took to the top secret jig and started drilling. The pins we bought were too long so we had to cut them down to .4 in.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653

Using the vice you see the cam in 2 images up, we put the exhaust gear and vvt on the cams, torqued them down to 55 ft/lbs, put them back on the head, tightened everything down and released the tensioner again. Bam, shit was perfect.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406214653

Big thanks to @KotzurRacing; for all the help!

Kellerspeed3 07-24-2014 04:17 PM

Blah, blah, when it runs come get me, lol, fuckin "A" Derek, can't wait to see her on the road.

derek13p 07-24-2014 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kellerspeed3 (Post 2658444)
Blah, blah, when it runs come get me, lol, fuckin "A" Derek, can't wait to see her on the road.

You'll be one of the first to get a ride haha

Kellerspeed3 07-24-2014 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek13p (Post 2658449)
You'll be one of the first to get a ride haha

Coolness

KotzurRacing 07-24-2014 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek13p (Post 2658449)
You'll be one of the first to get a ride haha

Yeah and I will be the one driving

derek13p 07-24-2014 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KotzurRacing (Post 2658640)
Yeah and I will be the one driving

The Z? Lol

hatchedspeed3 07-24-2014 08:23 PM

Can't wait to see the final product. If you need any help, let me know bud

KotzurRacing 07-24-2014 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derek13p (Post 2658664)
The Z? Lol

And you will need a head start for spool

WA_MS6 07-24-2014 09:33 PM

Solid build man! Props for spending the money. It will all be worth it in the end. Definitely keep us up to date!

derek13p 07-25-2014 10:40 PM

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Well, @KotzurRacing; made a oil pump gear holder device today and torqued the bolt on that down
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406349487
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406349487

And then Got the timing cover on and everything on that torqued down and sealed.
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1406349487

Little by little.

razortechrs 07-25-2014 10:46 PM

awesome build. i follow on IG and have kept track on there for your build! youll have to post a video walkaround or look at this setup!

Pu Manchu 07-26-2014 01:59 AM

http://i.imgur.com/7q6NbJb.png

let the record show that this guy raced about even with a first gen cts-v now he thinks he's a unicorn hunter... smh

derek13p 07-26-2014 07:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pu Manchu (Post 2659994)
http://i.imgur.com/7q6NbJb.png

let the record show that this guy raced about even with a first gen cts-v now he thinks he's a unicorn hunter... smh

That'll be a good video to post on here lol

stevenlapensee 07-27-2014 11:40 AM

Who is going to be tuning this beast?

derek13p 07-27-2014 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenlapensee (Post 2660786)
Who is going to be tuning this beast?

@ms3blackmica;

Neverlift 07-27-2014 03:19 PM

Fathead could tune it, and you wouldn't have a chance phteven. :theyareontome:

derek13p 08-05-2014 10:25 AM

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Not much progress this week, been busy and there's a car on the lift I'm waiting on to be gone so i can use it.
But we got the valve cover powder coated and the oil feed line done, almost done with the drain line.
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1407253764
http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1407253764

Kellerspeed3 08-05-2014 10:39 AM

Nice, did Matt do the pping?


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