Dereks MS6 Build

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by MSP611 did u do the mod for nuts on the injectors?? it is well worth it and a time and headache saver if you ever have to pull them again. great lookin build by the way... cant wait to get home in January and do my build. How long did the build take u in days like if u work full 6-8hrs on it a day. I have a month ill be home and kinda wanna know if it will be possible to do my build in a month when im home.

It took a 2-3 hours to pull the motor after all the electrical crap was disconnected, putting it in was about the same. Honestly though a lot of this was done over the course of 7 months so very hard to say time wise like that. If you have a full month of full days then you might be able to do it in 2-3 weeks with machining of the block and all.

[derek13p]

Vdyno of a 4th gear wot log tonight on the base breakin tune. Ready to turn it up.

@ms3blackmica; I'm ready for some tunez. Logs sent. Lets see what this girl can do!

[derek13p]

Some shots of the new valve cover and SpeedPerf6rmanc3 breather cap.

Should have another map tonight to go do some runs in!

[SofaKingAwesome]

Rode in this bitch yesterday, can't wait to see it fully tuned

[derek13p]

Cleaned up the wiring thanks to @KotzurRacing; and getting ready for some port injection in the tune! Looks a lot nicer now.


Can anyone confirm the wiring of the split injection controller for the MS6 for me? I tapped the middle wire of the MAF sensor for the green(MAF) wire on the controller, the red power wire from the controller I did an add a fuse to the Eng Bar in the fuse box, and the ground I put to the top of the HPFP. As for the yellow ones, we found the coil wires that did not have a common wire with the other coils, which may be where the problem is as I have no instruction on which wires to tap. @SPEEDPERF6RMANC3; would you be able to give some input? I know yall have done a few 6s with this kit.

[stevenlapensee]

Looks good man. Hope you get the wiring issue figured out.

[SofaKingAwesome]

What should the condition for the power be? And there's got to be a better ground than that.

[Etipp98]

Tap the very far left wire on each coil pack plug.

[stevenlapensee]

update?

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by stevenlapensee update?

Nothing major yet. Was getting it tuned but the 3.5in intake wasn't big enough cause the engine was flowing a lot more than expected, so had to order pipe to make a 4 incher, and with getting a new job and working till 930 every damn night its harder to get shit done.
@KotzurRacing; fab'd up a 4in for me on sunday though, and changed a bad wheel bearing.
I'm now getting a almost whining sound coming from the front suspension when turning left(driver side), only while moving, not while stopped. Gotta figure out what that is next.
Got a set of brembos on the way for the front and will be ordering coilovers next paycheck, then get some new bushings and what not and do some maintenance for her.
But yeah, should be getting a new map for the 4in soon and do some maf cals and then get back to port injection and then e85.
I learned that on the first map of port injection I can get some good wheel spin in the rain and get pretty damn sideways in the corners haha..

[derek13p]

Ordered some ISC coilovers today. Hope they are good!

[ms3blackmica]

Originally Posted by derek13p I learned that on the first map of port injection I can get some good wheel spin in the rain and get pretty damn sideways in the corners haha..

Just wait for when we're 30+ PSI deep.

You'll quickly find out that an MS6 becomes a F-Body Camaro LOL

[Code Monkey]

I can haz custom intake too?

[KotzurRacing]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey I can haz custom intake too?

Hit me up when you want me to build you one. Just finished a 3.5 intake for a k04 car

[sleeperstang1994]

just out of curiosity, since you seem to be a machinist. Is there a specific spot where you pin the cams? do you have to time them first so you know the links and teeth line up and them drill them? or just say screw it and drill a hole?

[KotzurRacing]

Originally Posted by sleeperstang1994 just out of curiosity, since you seem to be a machinist. Is there a specific spot where you pin the cams? do you have to time them first so you know the links and teeth line up and them drill them? or just say screw it and drill a hole?

Every set is different. Must set timing first. We used a set of allen headed bolts, torqued them and then drilled through the sprocket and cam. Intake cam is a different story. It has four holes for the vvt and the last thing you want to do is drill one of them.

[derek13p]

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a little flyby a while back.

[sleeperstang1994]

Originally Posted by KotzurRacing Every set is different. Must set timing first. We used a set of allen headed bolts, torqued them and then drilled through the sprocket and cam. Intake cam is a different story. It has four holes for the vvt and the last thing you want to do is drill one of them.

so you basically time the engine complete with the allen headed bolts tighten everything down and then just unbolt the cams and take them to your drill. that way you know your chain and all the teeth will line up properly? seems easy when i write it down like that lol... i know its probably not. thanks for the clarification!

[KotzurRacing]

Originally Posted by sleeperstang1994 so you basically time the engine complete with the allen headed bolts tighten everything down and then just unbolt the cams and take them to your drill. that way you know your chain and all the teeth will line up properly? seems easy when i write it down like that lol... i know its probably not. thanks for the clarification!

yes yes and yes it is simply, just take note of the four holes in the intake cam and drill between them. We got it right the first time we had every done any(dereks cams being the first set). speedperformance said they have some kind of JIG but not really sure what that means if all the car set up differently.

[hatchedspeed3]

car looks great derek. props to you and @KotzurRacing; on an awesome build. im going to try and finish up my shitbox this weekend so I can actually come see you guys again.

[sporkbomb]

I wonder if my wife will let me do this to her MS6 one day. Can I claim better gas mileage?

On a serious note: this is a damn awesome build. Good luck, @derek13p;. Please tell me you are going to air brush either a Unicorn or Chuck Norris on the hood.

[kashbringer]

Nice meeting you out at TX2k man, build is looking good!

[levon.mark]

updates?

[KotzurRacing]

Originally Posted by levon.mark updates?

Yes derek has been super busy with work. Trying to get him to post the results. Car is RIDICULOUSLY STUPID NASTY made really great power for the low amount of boost hes running.

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by levon.mark updates?

Made 613awhp and 519awtq at JMS in San Antonio.

Did some powdercoating, got a turbo blanket. Next will be a bigger IC and a 6466 a different tuning solution and some axels.

[MSP611]

Some monster numbers!!! This is on a 6266 or 6262?? Are u running e85mix??

[Hammology]

Originally Posted by MSP611 Some monster numbers!!! This is on a 6266 or 6262?? Are u running e85mix??

The post above you says 6466.

EDIT: Im dumb, he said next up is 6466.... fuck my mouth.

EDIT #2 : GT3582

[Hammology]

Originally Posted by derek13p Made 613awhp and 519awtq at JMS in San Antonio. Did some powdercoating, got a turbo blanket. Next will be a bigger IC and a 6466 a different tuning solution and some axels.

Looks fast as fuck. What psi? And what rpm are you hitting max boost?

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Hammology Looks fast as fuck. What psi? And what rpm are you hitting max boost?

I'll hit boost around 3500ish. 30-32psi. 50-50 e85 mix.
Its pretty fun for sure lol.

[levon.mark]

zayumm nice work ! I remember seeing this car on JMS's Instagram, but wasn't sure if it was yours?

[BlackEscortGT]

holy shit. this build thread has me totally erect!!! so much inspiration. mid motor build myself on my vrm ms6

[derek13p]

Got another speed6 so that's taken up a bit more of my time and money, but the red one will definitely continue to become more of a beast!
It put a 5 car whoopin on an evo 9 the other day going to cars and coffee. That was just 2nd and 3rd gear too

[MSP611]

mmm this is nice (borat accent)!!! thts crazy u are spooling tht fast with this monster!! highly impressed

[Mazdazilla6]

@derek13p; Where'd you buy the kit to pin your cams?

Also, anything new? Sticking with the t3 flange when you change turbos?

[KotzurRacing]

No kit used. I bought some dowel pins and set the timing on the motor, then installed some Allen head bolt in the cams. Then removed the cams from the motor, built a jig for my drill press and went to town. Was way easier then I thought it would be. Took about 5 mins to drill both cams, just marked the vvt holes in the cam first so that we didn't drill into them.

[Mazdazilla6]

Originally Posted by KotzurRacing No kit used. I bought some dowel pins and set the timing on the motor, then installed some Allen head bolt in the cams. Then removed the cams from the motor, built a jig for my drill press and went to town. Was way easier then I thought it would be. Took about 5 mins to drill both cams, just marked the vvt holes in the cam first so that we didn't drill into them.

Where did you get the dowels from though?

[KotzurRacing]

A place in town called quality fasteners very similar to fastenall

[derek13p]

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-gt500-203391/
Little race a buddy caught on film for me.

[MSP611]

hey question @derek13p; how did u setup ur ITFP? u have an upgraded ITFP?

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by MSP611 hey question @derek13p; how did u setup ur ITFP? u have an upgraded ITFP?

Yeah, upgraded in tanks. Got the sp63 kit. I think I show it somewhere in this thread maybe, I forgot.
Edit: Post 66 on 2nd page is where it shows it.
Btw, you have the longest signature I've ever seen lol