Dereks MS6 Build

[derek13p]

Dereks MS6 Build


So I've finally decided to make a build thread being that my car is so close to being done.
I picked this MS6 up in december of last year. Had got rid of my 2012 MS3 2 months prior, went to a 350z because it was half the payments, hated it and then found this.
Came with a Turbosmart 50/50 BPV, OCC, Sure Full 3in intake, Sure boost tubes, Sure short shifter, plastidiped wheels.



Immediately I purchased a spare block to start to build.
Got some eagle rods to use in the block and CP pistons.




I couldnt wait to build the block before modding it so I got JBRs stiffest trilogy set, 3 port ebcs, and a full engine rebuild kit from Edge.




@KotzurRacing; made me a 2 port pcv plate



Purchased @PapaSmurf; old gt3582r



Got a top mount exhaust mani from a guy in Houston.
Was too close to the reservoir and the fact that he asked me if he could see my engine bay made me realise he made it for a MS3.
Test fit it on a 3, good to go, sold it.



Cobb AP v3



Battery relocated to the trunk



Got a set of Evo X wheels.




CX Racing IC piping and a TR8L core installed



Then This.



I had oil coming out of my 50/50 bpv, and it was dripping out of my SRI filter... The oil was coming out of my VC breather that was attached to the SURE sri
Got so bad that from San Marcos to San Antonio it lost 2 quarts through the VC into a makeshift Oil Catch Bucket.
Took it to my buddies shop and its sat there since feburary.

Got a beater to ride in for the mean time
1988 300ZX 5spd N/A



Since then I have ordered and recieved a big ol intake, blasted it down and deciding which color to powder coat it now.



ACT 6 puck clutch



Rear diff brace, rsb and lowering springs from Corksport



Crower springs, supertech +1mm intake and exhaust valves



Keyed crank and L19 head studs



A new top mount exhaust mani for the twin scroll setup





New DP and dump tube




JMF intake mani w/the port injection system from SP63




Short block is together



Now just have to get the intake and exhaust cams pinned and it will be time to put everything together and start getting it tuned and broken in.

[[R]usty]

Nice build. Cars going to be a monster.

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by rustysurfsa Nice build. Cars going to be a monster.

Thanks! Just looking forward to driving her again at this point. I'll have vdyno and real dyno numbers to post once done.

[SofaKingAwesome]

My nigga! Glad we're getting shit done around here. Let me know if you need hands or any odds/ends.

[Pino.yako]

Man you weren't joking when you were telling about this beast of a build when we met a couple of weeks ago.

Good Job, can't wait to see this in person!

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Pino.yako Man you weren't joking when you were telling about this beast of a build when we met a couple of weeks ago. Good Job, can't wait to see this in person!

Haha yeah, just didn't want to make a thread till it was close to done. Thanks!!

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by derek13p Haha yeah, just didn't want to make a thread till it was close to done.

But you missed out on all the "advices"!!!!

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey But you missed out on all the "advices"!!!!

Hahaha. Well any advice on pinning the intake cam would be awesome since I'm about to tackle that next!

[TiGraySpeed6]

All kinds if win going on here!
Good luck with the build!

[Pu Manchu]

bout fuckin time we see a thread, you've had this car hidden away for months.

best wishes for the rest of the build!

[Bulgsta]

Cant wait to see it running.

Keep us updated

[Mazdazilla6]

Got any pics of the +1 valves installed? I'm looking to do it but there isn't too much info on them.

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 Got any pics of the +1 valves installed? I'm looking to do it but there isn't too much info on them.

I have will get those for you good sir.

[2.3speed06]

Very nice, I like.

[jbmazda6]

Sub'd... every time I see a thread like this it makes me want to build an engine.




Then I realize how much it actually costs. Kudos to you for spending the time and money to do this. Hopefully I can someday.

[Kellerspeed3]

Congrats D, I'm sure your very excited to get her on the road.

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by jbmazda6 Sub'd... every time I see a thread like this it makes me want to build an engine. Then I realize how much it actually costs. Kudos to you for spending the time and money to do this. Hopefully I can someday.

Yeahhh I realized why people part out before their build is done.. So much monies.

[PapaSmurf]

you cut off the gonzo dick!!! wtf!! ahaha

looks good man.

[SpeedRebirth]

Originally Posted by derek13p Battery relocated to the trunk

Really awesome build! So much porn going on here!

Could you post up more pictures of how you relocated your battery and what hardware you used?
There is very little info/pics on this and the ones i've seen are not all that detailed. Maby you could even make a thread on it?

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by SpeedRebirth Really awesome build! So much porn going on here! Could you post up more pictures of how you relocated your battery and what hardware you used? There is very little info/pics on this and the ones i've seen are not all that detailed. Maby you could even make a thread on it?

I can see if I can dig up some pictures on it. It was really pretty easy for the battery. @KotzurRacing; has helped me with this whole build from the start and he made me that box. I think it was around 12 ft of 4 gauge wire(have to look back to find out) and then bolted the box to the spare tire cover, then sanded down an area of the frame and bolted the negative to it.

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by SpeedRebirth Really awesome build! So much porn going on here! Could you post up more pictures of how you relocated your battery and what hardware you used? There is very little info/pics on this and the ones i've seen are not all that detailed. Maby you could even make a thread on it?

The red wire you see going into the fuse box runs into the same hole as the wire harness, sliced a small hole and lubed up the wire a bit and ran it through from under the steering column, pulled it through into the bay with some needle nose pliers, ran it under the box and attached it to the left side(looking from the front of the vehicle) wire post in the fuse box. We got a bit like this

(but big enough for the wire we used) and bent it at a 90 and bolted it down with the rest of the lines.
then pulled up the plastic molding along the driver side to the trunk, ran the wire under it till the battery, attached it to positive and grounded the negative

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Mazdazilla6 Got any pics of the +1 valves installed? I'm looking to do it but there isn't too much info on them.

Here you go!
Nice and big for the details haha




About to torque down the head studs
Then tomorrow pin the cams. Will take pics of that process too.

[derek13p]

Okay! So, got the cams pinned and the engine timed yesterday.

First step, get the cams in the head, cam bearing caps tightened down, and cam timing tool in. Should look like this.


Notice how on the intake cam you have the 4 holes on the end.

Put the cam gears and timing chain on, release the tensioner pin and let the gears go into place where it would be perfectly timed(I have a keyed crank so the gear on the crank cannot move). We put an allen head bolt in so there would be enough clearance to drill the cam and gear while they were tightened down. Once the bolt was tightened we marked the vvt at 12 o-clock, anywhere between 12 and 1 would work. Really so would 3, 6, 7, 9, and 10 but we chose TDC to use. The exhaust cam you can drill anywhere.




From the front of the gear on the exhaust cam to the back part on the cam measured .43 in, so we marked a 3/16 drill bit .4 in from the tip took to the top secret jig and started drilling. The pins we bought were too long so we had to cut them down to .4 in.








Using the vice you see the cam in 2 images up, we put the exhaust gear and vvt on the cams, torqued them down to 55 ft/lbs, put them back on the head, tightened everything down and released the tensioner again. Bam, shit was perfect.




Big thanks to @KotzurRacing; for all the help!

[Kellerspeed3]

Blah, blah, when it runs come get me, lol, fuckin "A" Derek, can't wait to see her on the road.

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Kellerspeed3 Blah, blah, when it runs come get me, lol, fuckin "A" Derek, can't wait to see her on the road.

You'll be one of the first to get a ride haha

[Kellerspeed3]

Originally Posted by derek13p You'll be one of the first to get a ride haha

Coolness

[KotzurRacing]

Originally Posted by derek13p You'll be one of the first to get a ride haha

Yeah and I will be the one driving

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by KotzurRacing Yeah and I will be the one driving

The Z? Lol

[hatchedspeed3]

Can't wait to see the final product. If you need any help, let me know bud

[KotzurRacing]

Originally Posted by derek13p The Z? Lol

And you will need a head start for spool

[WA_MS6]

Solid build man! Props for spending the money. It will all be worth it in the end. Definitely keep us up to date!

[derek13p]

Well, @KotzurRacing; made a oil pump gear holder device today and torqued the bolt on that down



And then Got the timing cover on and everything on that torqued down and sealed.


Little by little.

[razortechrs]

awesome build. i follow on IG and have kept track on there for your build! youll have to post a video walkaround or look at this setup!

[Pu Manchu]

let the record show that this guy raced about even with a first gen cts-v now he thinks he's a unicorn hunter... smh

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by Pu Manchu let the record show that this guy raced about even with a first gen cts-v now he thinks he's a unicorn hunter... smh

That'll be a good video to post on here lol

[stevenlapensee]

Who is going to be tuning this beast?

[derek13p]

Originally Posted by stevenlapensee Who is going to be tuning this beast?

@ms3blackmica;

[Neverlift]

Fathead could tune it, and you wouldn't have a chance phteven.

[derek13p]

Not much progress this week, been busy and there's a car on the lift I'm waiting on to be gone so i can use it.
But we got the valve cover powder coated and the oil feed line done, almost done with the drain line.

[Kellerspeed3]

Nice, did Matt do the pping?