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Also inspired by the Lancia Delta,

Kind of long video, but a Lotus that is twin charged for 680whp at 2150lbs
better power to weight than an F1 car!! imagine one of the built engines going twin charged like op, but looking for BIG power

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Kind of long video, but a Lotus that is twin charged for 680whp at 2150lbs better power to weight than an F1 car!!
How would a car that is heavier than an f1 car and has less power than an f1 car have a better power to weight ratio than an f1 car?
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Yeah that Lotus is pretty wicked. To me it's just about the perfect car.

But with pushing that much power he goes through engines fast.
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How would a car that is heavier than an f1 car and has less power than an f1 car have a better power to weight ratio than an f1 car?

In the video he mentions that it's a 1980s F1 or something like that


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Back when they were turbocharged to over 1000 hp?
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Back when they were turbocharged to over 1000 hp?

Haha got me, I'm just repeating what he said in the video…


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Back when they were turbocharged to over 1000 hp?
*For a couple laps

They weren't running that much power in the actual races, usually just the time trials.
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Originally Posted by jax ms3gt View Post
Also inspired by the Lancia Delta,

Kind of long video, but a Lotus that is twin charged for 680whp at 2150lbs
better power to weight than an F1 car!! imagine one of the built engines going twin charged like op, but looking for BIG power

The World's Fastest Lotus? - /TUNED - YouTube
Crashed it and came up with
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*For a couple laps

They weren't running that much power in the actual races, usually just the time trials.
My point is still valid, that lotus is nowhere near the power to weight of any remotely recent f1 car. They were supposedly over 1500 in qualifying when they would disconnect The waste gate.
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I was just summing up what he said.. I was not aware that F1 cars made that much power, but thinking about it seems unlikely that he's making/made better power to weight. His claim, still the car is fucking ridiculous
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My point is still valid, that lotus is nowhere near the power to weight of any remotely recent f1 car. They were supposedly over 1500 in qualifying when they would disconnect The waste gate.
Just the way I run my Speed 3.


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Also inspired by the Lancia Delta,

The World's Fastest Lotus? - /TUNED - YouTube
This lotus came to mind too.

Excellent build!

VW was working on dual charging a while ago, not sure if it went anywhere.

I'd love to see your car in action.

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Just a quick note on this. During his research, Tim found that most super chargers don't hold up well to being fed boost. That's why he has the supercharger feeding the turbo on his setup.
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Just a quick note on this. During his research, Tim found that most super chargers don't hold up well to being fed boost. That's why he has the supercharger feeding the turbo on his setup.
In our application his setup makes more sense anyway, we don't need a supercharger for the top end power but for low end torque on a big turbo car. The turbo will compound the boost nicely and while it's spooling we don't just have an n/a car. You know that of course, but why not say it anyway
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How would a car that is heavier than an f1 car and has less power than an f1 car have a better power to weight ratio than an f1 car?
1978 Lotus F1 car had a Cosworth DFV. Those never had more than about 450-475hp.
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1978 Lotus F1 car had a Cosworth DFV. Those never had more than about 450-475hp.
Thats kinda my point... its a pointless comparison if you arent making it to a modern F1 car. by that measure, a CX-5 has more power than a fighter plane, battleship, locomotive, and most race cars.
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Thats kinda my point... its a pointless comparison if you arent making it to a modern F1 car. by that measure, a CX-5 has more power than a fighter plane, battleship, locomotive, and most race cars.

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It's accurate besides the battleship. Even the HMS Dreadnought had 23k HP.
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It's accurate besides the battleship. Even the HMS Dreadnought had 23k HP.
I was thinking sail power
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What was the power under the curve on the GTX3071?
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I'd also like to see a dyno sheet to look at how the torque curve differs from a single turbo application. To me a twin charged, compound, or sequential charged build should be entertained above the 600whp mark.

I only say because our motors spool turbos retarded quick. Even @NJSPEED3; car spooled his turbo like a boss. Nevertheless I can't hate on this build because my crazy ass is doing something similar anyway.

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You good sir are my hero. I want a twincharged car sooo bad. Planned on getting a 69 Camaro and making it twincharged but fuck it. Might as well do it to the speed.

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... but fuck it...
butt fuck the camaro or the speed?
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butt fuck the camaro or the speed?
Camaro, but I changed my mind. One day I will have a twincharged 69 Camaro. It will be a lot of years in the future but it will happen.

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Camaro, but I changed my mind. One day I will have a twincharged 69 Camaro. It will be a lot of years in the future but it will happen.

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what happened to getting this monster on a dyno ??
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