AWD Axela/ Mazda 3 Info?

[SpencerC]

Just happened to come across this today:
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What do you think? We knew of/had heard about an AWD system possibly in Japan on the Axela (Mazda3), but so many people keep saying that is just a rumor. Looks like it isn't a rumor. If you browse around you will see it for the Mazda 2 (demio) also.

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[season_of_ages]

That would be tight. Turbo?

Tappin da crack

[SpencerC]

No info on a turbo. I wish.

EDIT: TurboDiesel, Yes.

[darthxar]

The prospect of a 4 wheel drive three makes me very excited. Even if its not a speed, a 4 wheel drive three would make one hell of a fun winter car

[Easter Bunny]

Old news pu was also available with AWD In japan.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by Vansquish Cool! It's not terribly new news though, as both the 1st and 2nd gen MZ3 were available with an AWD system in Japan.

What valuable information I wish someone had posted that sooner.

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Old news pu was also available with AWD In japan.

Just fuckin with you, now feel free to go all grammar Nazi on me.

[Voltwings]

I'm very disappointed that no one has made an "overnighting parts from Japan" reference so far...

[dr_banano]

yeah i say the same....

Originally Posted by Voltwings I'm very disappointed that no one has made an "overnighting parts from Japan" reference so far...

[Vansquish]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny What valuable information I wish someone had posted that sooner. Just fuckin with you, now feel free to go all grammar Nazi on me.

I know, I was kind of messin' with you too, but felt I could add that the 1st gen MZ3 was available that way too.

[SpencerC]

It's true, but people still seem to not believe it when we tell them, so I figured some photo evidence would help!

[Easter Bunny]

Be a hero and import the parts for a conversion.

[SpencerC]

I was thinking it would be cool to start importing their bodykits

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They get all the cool stuff.

[ALPINEST4RS]

Originally Posted by Spencer@CorkSport I was thinking it would be cool to start importing their bodykits �yMAZDA�zƒ}ƒcƒ_ƒXƒs�[ƒh ƒGƒNƒXƒeƒŠƒAƒZƒbƒgƒvƒ‰ƒ“/ƒXƒ|�[ƒc�bƒAƒNƒZƒ‰ They get all the cool stuff.

We just threw that kit on a 14' 3 hatch.

Its avail.

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[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by ALPINEST4RS We just threw that kit on a 14' 3 hatch. Its avail. worlds only awd mazdaspeed3 mps 3 mk2 / gen2 big turbo build - YouTube

its on an AWD dyno so whats to say its actually AWD?

[Easter Bunny]

What I really want is the foam organizer for the hatch on a pu to replace the useless one under the carpet

[Ozynigma]

So there is a RHD AWD turbo Pu in Japan? Hmmm private import to Oz, we are RHD too.

[SpencerC]

Didja have to special order it though? I assume you don't keep them on the shelf.

[ALPINEST4RS]

No we just ordered it. The rays engineering wheels are avail too. Those are stupid expensive. I priced a set out, for me they're over 4k. Eek.

On another note, there is a 14' 3 around in michigan with a set of mazdaspeed wheels (legit forged 5 spoke)

Only set I've ever seen in MI. Apparently he has the only set in mi, they are super rare. (Light gold with alum lip).

If you're interested in seeing what the kit looks like I think we pre loaded a 3 on the lot with one too. I can get some pics maybe (if it didn't sell).

[dr_banano]

this is nice indeed ....

[Vansquish]

Cool! It's not terribly new news though, as both the 1st and 2nd gen MZ3 were available with an AWD system in Japan.

[ALPINEST4RS]

I never knew the gen1, and 2 were awd. Why doesn't someone overnight parts from Japan?

[ALPINEST4RS]

If you search AWD speed3 on youtube, some UK company built a gen 1 and a gen 2 AWD system. It doesn't look imported

[Johnasaurus]

If there was an awd kit available it would be a hell of a lot of work I bet, and also very pricey. Possibly worth it if it worked properly

[season_of_ages]

Why no RWD?

Tappin da crack

[mituc]

Because RWD sucks, is impractical, is not faster by any means or at least not as fast as a FWD or AWD on a compact chassis. It's good for drifting and that's about it.
A RWD car needs a lower center of gravity, a totally different weight distribution, and that's pretty hard to get in a compact cat. A longer chassis like a premium sedan or a roadster can achieve all these.

The second you think to hit the reply button and call me a moron think about this: why are there so few RWD cars in the rally championships and still so many FWD cars? And why the FWDs are faster there, sometimes faster than some of the heavier AWDs?
FWD with a proper alignment is no slower than the equivalent (in power/weight) than a RWD, and was faster than an AWD on any type of tarmac (we don't drive fast on gravel or ice where RWDs will suck even more, and AWDs will shine). The RWD/AWD have the launch advantage but once above like 30-40mph the 60/40 weight distribution in FWD cars means you actually have more weight on the traction wheels than a RWD.

The only true issue with this is that a FWD car will reach its limits in therms of power than can be put down to the ground sooner than a RWD or AWD. That's a limitation for the RWDs as well compared to AWD, and as we see more and more supercars move from RWD to AWD unless they have tons of aero sutff (like the P1, AgeraR/One, LaFerrari, and so on) and are designed to run fast only on smooth asphalt, not bumpy roads or in more complex conditions like the ones we encounter in the daily driving including snow driving.

So if it's not FWD then AWD is the only viable layout.

And if you're concerned about the future of the mazdaspeed3, well, it will have the 2.5T engine they will put first in the CX9, just how the MS3 and MS6 had the CX7 engine. Petrol turbo FTW! I'm not sure if moving to AWD is good or bad, but with AWD it will be a better all-round car. Not necessarily faster though, straight line or cornering on decent asphalt.

[ALPINEST4RS]

I just hope they don't retard it down with a bunch of stability management.

My Brother's Golf R has that. He can literally WOT and shift without hands on the wheel and the thing corrects itself to go straight. = ghey

[Tokay444]

TotalMPShit built that awd pu, and it's well, shit.

[ffz]

Originally Posted by Tokay444 TotalMPShit built that awd pu, and it's well, shit.

Why don't you sugar coat it? Haha

It made about 350awhp on the dyno too with a very expensive ethanol mix, port injection in a JMF mani and a GTX35.

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Originally Posted by ALPINEST4RS If you search AWD speed3 on youtube, some UK company built a gen 1 and a gen 2 AWD system. It doesn't look imported

The Genpu didn't live up to expectations and the motor blew after the IWG GTX35 was 'bodged' into an EWG setup.

The Genwon still isn't on the road, and has a twin charged setup up. I'm no expert, but a few people say the boost tubes are plumbed in wrong and the supercharger is the wrong type.

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[Jarods7920]

You know when I built my awd 3 I called cork sport about importing me some parts and u basically got the piss off. Y'all were not interested in the slightest. It's not new information by any means.

[IshiKage]

Originally Posted by Jarods7920 You know when I built my awd 3 I called cork sport about importing me some parts and u basically got the piss off. Y'all were not interested in the slightest. It's not new information by any means.

so what happened to that unicorn?

[Jarods7920]

Originally Posted by IshiKage so what happened to that unicorn?

Still have her. Just sleeping at the moment.