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 Old 08-05-2013, 07:18 PM   #81
 
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oh ya got mine !!! mount !!!
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That is a lot of screens lol.
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oh ya got mine !!! mount !!!
I'm all about do dads and what nots but god damn that's too much!!!


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oh ya got mine !!! mount !!!
Holy shit. All of the screens would end up giving me a seizure
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so do you need the new ATR to transfer your current map?

or can I just load my current map onto the V3 AP?

Reason I am asking is because I wont receive ATR until the the morning and my car wont run if I dont have the current map installed.

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Need to request ATR from Cobb so it's on your v3's serial number.

If you don't the old map will say that it's locked to the old serial number and you won't be able to flash it to the ECU
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Got mine in!
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Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 View Post
Need to request ATR from Cobb so it's on your v3's serial number.

If you don't the old map will say that it's locked to the old serial number and you won't be able to flash it to the ECU
Im assuming new AP come with specific instructions on how to transfer maps from V2 to V3 ?
And clear up the confusion ?

Why couldn't they just keep it so that your current ATR would work with the new AP, just seems like a hassle.
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Easy-peasy-

ATR has always been serial number locked to your AP. When you get your new copy of ATR just open & save your map(s) that you want to use on the v3, then copy to the AP & flash like usual.

The open & save in ATR is all that's needed for the map to learn the new serial number. No need to change anything, just open & save.
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I think i may kick myself in the rear. I just got my v2

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I think i may kick myself in the rear. I just got my v2

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Can't wait for this thing to come in.
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Its been about a month and ill have to get in toch with them

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wow I received ATR within 15 min after normal working hours.

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Do any of you guys know either the ball size or the mount type if you are looking for a universal mount other than the sticky one provided?
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Received it yesterday, luckily I was included in the first batch. I have to say I really like this V3 so far. Being able to moniter 6 things at a time is really nice. Plus the bigger screen is really practical with other things, like going through menu's and stuff.

Another thing I'm really happy with, and I wasn't aware of when purchasing, is that I can switch to metric values. So instead of PSI I can use kPa, and Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. Very usefull for us Euro guys (and other countries who use the metric system).

Although I really like the magnet holder, unfortunately there isn't a clip included to clip it onto the vent like with the Proto Tuning Tool Holder.

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Do any of you guys know either the ball size or the mount type if you are looking for a universal mount other than the sticky one provided?
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I don't know the exact ball size but the ball size of the sticky one provided is a bit larger then the ball size of the Proto Holder, so I wasn't able to use the Proto mount balls with the Cobb mount ball.

I have a Genwon so pretty much don't have a good place to stick it (I want it on the left side of the steering wheel, I already have to much going on the right side) other then on the door like some others have done.

So I ended up sticking the sticky part of the Proto on the Cobb holder, and using the Proto vent clip to put it on the left vent. Hard for me to explain in Eglish sorry, I will post a pic later today to make it perfectly clear

I do have to say that I really have to shove the vent clip super tight on the vent to keep it staying in place, because the V3 is twice as heavy as the V2.
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Insert code;

if ECU signal nil then shutdown after 3 seconds
If else = power on


(Obviously not that easy but one can dream)
You'd be right in that it is not that easy. The main team working on it has gone back and forth on it, as the car's voltage profile is all over the map. It was decided to hold off on releasing the feature until it is ready.

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Better yet, would be monitoring voltage spikes/dips and then comparing against something like MAF voltage - 0 MAF voltage = motor not running.
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You'd be right in that it is not that easy. The main team working on it has gone back and forth on it, as the car's voltage profile is all over the map. It was decided to hold off on releasing the feature until it is ready.

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David@COBB, if the old DH could do it, I know you guys can do it. Also, what about what I mentioned earlier (above)? Use 2 data points (Voltage AND MAF V or similar) to determine engine running state and/or key position state. You guys can already tell when the key is in the Acc position instead of On right? That's how you pop the cannot communicate with ECU message... What about using same logic - ping the ECU and if no response = key off (or not "On")
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Ya'll remember that the DH just needed to be on or off- no fancy logic involved.

The AP has programming duties that involve cycling the key, so there is fancy logic that has to be accounted for beyond just the simple "do I need to be here" that the DH used.
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Originally Posted by hnda etr View Post
David@COBB, if the old DH could do it, I know you guys can do it. Also, what about what I mentioned earlier (above)? Use 2 data points (Voltage AND MAF V or similar) to determine engine running state and/or key position state. You guys can already tell when the key is in the Acc position instead of On right? That's how you pop the cannot communicate with ECU message... What about using same logic - ping the ECU and if no response = key off (or not "On")
I understand what you mean, I have a few devices in my car that use that. However they are using a method that doesn't ping the ECU, and only uses the voltage reading from the A/D line.

The reason for this is because they want a platform independent way of doing it on the V3, whether it be a Subaru, Nissan, BMW, or Mazda. This is because some cars have "wake up on CAN message" functionality, and can turn on the ECU out of power down state if the OBD-II is queried externally.

Again, that side of the code is written by the V3 hardware team and not by me, so when they feel it is ready then it will be released. The point here is it will happen, so just be patient

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Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 View Post
Ya'll remember that the DH just needed to be on or off- no fancy logic involved.

The AP has programming duties that involve cycling the key, so there is fancy logic that has to be accounted for beyond just the simple "do I need to be here" that the DH used.
Good point, didn't even think of that... however it would be simple for them to jump out of the power down logic if they are in the programming loop...

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I understand what you mean, I have a few devices in my car that use that. However they are using a method that doesn't ping the ECU, and only uses the voltage reading from the A/D line.

The reason for this is because they want a platform independent way of doing it on the V3, whether it be a Subaru, Nissan, BMW, or Mazda. This is because some cars have "wake up on CAN message" functionality, and can turn on the ECU out of power down state if the OBD-II is queried externally.

Again, that side of the code is written by the V3 hardware team and not by me, so when they feel it is ready then it will be released. The point here is it will happen, so just be patient

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Makes sense that they don't want to implement platform specific logic!

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I just had an issue were my custom maps wouldnt allow the AP to connect to the ECU and monitor/log. It would allow me the change maps but thats it.

I installed an OTS map and it allowed me to log/monitor, so something is up in ATR I take it. Cobb is aware and working on the issue.
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I just had an issue were my custom maps wouldnt allow the AP to connect to the ECU and monitor/log. It would allow me the change maps but thats it.

I installed an OTS map and it allowed me to log/monitor, so something is up in ATR I take it. Cobb is aware and working on the issue.
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I can flash maps fine, it just won't let me monitor/log on anything other than OTS maps.


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I can flash maps fine, it just won't let me monitor/log on anything other than OTS maps.


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Since I installed my v3 this morning right after completing an engine swap I'm running a 0 WGDC map with the BNR while things break in.

My own custom map converted from a v2 by opening/saving in the new version of ATR.

It was able to log fine, FWIW. I was just reviewing the logged data. Gauges/monitoring appears to be working too.

Can't decide if I like the flashing blue lights when logging or not....
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Originally Posted by TiGraySpeed6 View Post
Since I installed my v3 this morning right after completing an engine swap I'm running a 0 WGDC map with the BNR while things break in.

My own custom map converted from a v2 by opening/saving in the new version of ATR.

It was able to log fine, FWIW. I was just reviewing the logged data. Gauges/monitoring appears to be working too.

Can't decide if I like the flashing blue lights when logging or not....
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For all the guys with genwons, where are you putting the sticky mount at? I was looking at where to mount this thing and there's really not much room to put it. I'd preferably have it on the right side
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Originally Posted by ArmanRus View Post
That is a lot of screens lol.
some people got gauges i got mounts lol

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For all the guys with genwons, where are you putting the sticky mount at? I was looking at where to mount this thing and there's really not much room to put it. I'd preferably have it on the right side
see were i mount mine i ran my wires over the steering wheel then under the shifter/ash tray area.
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This is how I mounted the V3 on my Gen2. I used my V2 Proto Tuning Tool vent mount.
The ball on the V2 is a bit smaller than the v3 mount so I put some tape on it.
I can move it in landscape position to.
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This is how I mounted the V3 on my Gen2. I used my V2 Proto Tuning Tool vent mount.
The ball on the V2 is a bit smaller than the v3 mount so I put some tape on it.
I can move it in landscape position to.
That is really nice. Way to make the Proto work.
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As promised the pics, hope this helps @rfinkle2;

As you can see the ball of the mount provided is a bit larger then the Proto mount ball


The measurements below are in centimeters, pic didn't come out to great, but I hope you can get an idea of difference in ball size


Here I used the sticky mount part of COBB with the Proto vent clip. Not a great idea to use it like this Although you can use some tape like @ilias; did.


I personally just used the sticky mount part of the Proto and stuck it to the AP holder, and then attached it to the vent clip.


And this is how I am mounting it at the moment. I pretty much drive my car like I stole it every chance I get, and it stayed in place for now, as long as I tighten the little wheel very good, and put the vent clip as tight as possible. This is because the V3 is about twice as heavy as the V2.


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I have to say that with the dvd player, the gauges and the AP V2 and especially the V3, I never have moments where I'm bored in my car lol.

All in all, I have to say I'm really pleased with the holder provided by COBB, with the magnet it's just a great holder. The mount is also pretty good, it's very solid, its just unfortunate that it doesn't have a vent clip, and especially a extension piece (like the one of Proto with the little wheel to tighten) that enables you to really put the AP in the position you want it to be.

Also I really don't understand all the people complaining about automatically switching on/off. Sure, it would be practical, but I mean just hit the fucking on/off switch man, how much of problem can it be?

COBB listened to us and others and did the on/off switch, and now we're bitching like "my dashhawk can go on/off automatically, why can't the AP V3?" Who cares man? COBB says their working on it and encountered some problems which I'm sure will be fixed in the near future. In the meantime JUST HIT THE ON/OFF SWITCH. I mean, damn.
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Hey Raymond what kind of DVD system you have installed and great mounting man! I like your pods with DVD ap combo I have add so I'd be really happy with that setup lol
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Thanks man, read sig lol, it's all there. Although I didn't do any test, I'm sure I've got something like ADD too lol.

Edit: The dvd system is okay, not mind blowing or anything. But for the price you can't beat it.
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Oooo there it is thanks man!
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Just pulled mine out of the box; it's pretty slick.

I'm going to send my v2 off to cobb to get cleaned up then its for sale, along with my DH.

AND i just received my ATR download link... it's 10pm

whats upgrade serial number for?
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This is how I mounted the V3 on my Gen2. I used my V2 Proto Tuning Tool vent mount.
The ball on the V2 is a bit smaller than the v3 mount so I put some tape on it.
I can move it in landscape position to.
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im going to re purpose my CPE DH mount for the AP

its got a nice flat vertical surface for the sticky pad until i find something better
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