OFFICIAL Warranty Extension Program on turbo and VVT Actuator Thread.

[timjs]

Got one of you freeloaders in my bay right now.


It's so obvious when you guys stock out. You leave things loose...bolts have markings on them that indicate they have been tampered with...Mode 6 data in the PCM isnt filled, incomplete monitor flags..

Not that I give a shit because I'm making my 4 hours either way.
It's just funny, the stories people come up with to protect their warranty coverage.

Originally Posted by Tokay444 What's this 5 dollar tensioner of which you speak? And checking the chain for slack needs to be done with the engine at operating temp. The chain tensioner is oil pressure actuated. No oil pressure, no tension.

He might be talking about a little chain guide that most engines have between the cam gears. One could easily be bolted to the oil control valve and keep the timing chain from slapping the valve cover.

[Raider]

Originally Posted by timjs Got one of you freeloaders in my bay right now. It's so obvious when you guys stock out. You leave things loose...bolts have markings on them that indicate they have been tampered with...Mode 6 data in the PCM isnt filled, incomplete monitor flags.. Not that I give a shit because I'm making my 4 hours either way. It's just funny, the stories people come up with to protect their warranty coverage.

My issue is that this chain problem happens stock or modded, and really needs to have a longer coverage period, as most have surpassed that extension. Obviously Mazda knows this, and is just making sure that they do not have to cover the majority of the cars.

[CurrentlyPissed]

Originally Posted by timjs Got one of you freeloaders in my bay right now. It's so obvious when you guys stock out. You leave things loose...bolts have markings on them that indicate they have been tampered with...Mode 6 data in the PCM isnt filled, incomplete monitor flags.. Not that I give a shit because I'm making my 4 hours either way. It's just funny, the stories people come up with to protect their warranty coverage. He might be talking about a little chain guide that most engines have between the cam gears. One could easily be bolted to the oil control valve and keep the timing chain from slapping the valve cover.

It's funny that people even stock out. Most dealerships have no problem turning a blind eye towards most mods. They want the freebie work to hit their gross labor. They could give two shits less. An inspector is not going to come out especially over a car with a recently updated warranty extension. They have more important things to do. (I service write for a Nissan Dealership)

[timjs]

Originally Posted by CurrentlyPissed It's funny that people even stock out. Most dealerships have no problem turning a blind eye towards most mods. They want the freebie work to hit their gross labor. They could give two shits less. An inspector is not going to come out especially over a car with a recently updated warranty extension. They have more important things to do. (I service write for a Nissan Dealership)

I've found that it seems to depend on the workload the dealership normally sees.

No body wants to do warranty work when there is customer pay work to do.
As you know, (and most people do NOT know) is that warranty pays so little, it's borderline criminal.
Technicians are still forced to be paid by the same ancient method that was designed long ago, and made sense when the auto industry had plenty of work.
Now, cars are so fucking reliable, there's no work. Our shop had 13 mechanics back in the mid 90's (from what the old timers have told me) and now the shop BARELY supports 3. Shit, I sat around for 5 hours today not making a single dime before I went home early.

Sorry for ranting, but you get my point. Take your car to a busy shop that would rather do 30k's and used car inspections instead of warranty, and they will screw you over modifications. Take your car to a smaller dealer that doesn't have the work volume of the larger dealer, and they will happily take the 4+ hours of work to replace your timing chain.. it's that simple. Technicians only get paid while they are working, so ANY work is better then NO work.

With that said, I'd rather do oil changes all fucking day than do another timing chain. I'm sick of them.

[CurrentlyPissed]

Originally Posted by timjs I've found that it seems to depend on the workload the dealership normally sees. No body wants to do warranty work when there is customer pay work to do. As you know, (and most people do NOT know) is that warranty pays so little, it's borderline criminal. Technicians are still forced to be paid by the same ancient method that was designed long ago, and made sense when the auto industry had plenty of work. Now, cars are so fucking reliable, there's no work. Our shop had 13 mechanics back in the mid 90's (from what the old timers have told me) and now the shop BARELY supports 3. Shit, I sat around for 5 hours today not making a single dime before I went home early. Sorry for ranting, but you get my point. Take your car to a busy shop that would rather do 30k's and used car inspections instead of warranty, and they will screw you over modifications. Take your car to a smaller dealer that doesn't have the work volume of the larger dealer, and they will happily take the 4+ hours of work to replace your timing chain.. it's that simple. Technicians only get paid while they are working, so ANY work is better then NO work. With that said, I'd rather do oil changes all fucking day than do another timing chain. I'm sick of them.

What is the warranty time/actual time for the MS3 chains?

[timjs]

Originally Posted by CurrentlyPissed What is the warranty time/actual time for the MS3 chains?

2007-2009 MS3.... 4.3 hours.
2010 MS3 4.5 hours.

All MS6... 4.5 hours.

All CX-7 ... 4.4 hours.

It's doable in that time. But, I'm too fucking anal about silicone. I spend so much time cleaning the timing cover and the engine that I screw myself on every one I do. But I'd rather lose a little money then have to re-do the job for free because an oil leak.

[CurrentlyPissed]

Originally Posted by timjs 2007-2009 MS3.... 4.3 hours. 2010 MS3 4.5 hours. All MS6... 4.5 hours. All CX-7 ... 4.4 hours. It's doable in that time. But, I'm too fucking anal about silicone. I spend so much time cleaning the timing cover and the engine that I screw myself on every one I do. But I'd rather lose a little money then have to re-do the job for free because an oil leak.

Could be worse, Nissan Quest takes 12.3 actual hours. Warranty pay? 5.4.

[timjs]

Yep. As long as auto manufacturers can get away with it, they will continue to screw over their technicians.