ATR Request: RPM Axis Increase

[PapaSmurf]

In for moar rpm, def will need it once the head is built and on a 6466


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[Realgib3]

Bump.

@David@COBB

I know plenty of us have sent pm's about this... and yes I know this will not be a quick process, just wondering if there are any updates or if you guys have at least begun looking into these changes?

[NJSPEED3]

3 weeks?

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[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by NJSPEED3 3 weeks? Sent from my DROID4 using Tapatalk now Free

Awww come on, don't go changin things up now! It is and will always be 2 weeks!

[NJSPEED3]

Nah man that's on they competitor

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[breakfstincluded]

Originally Posted by BigRedSpecial It seems to me that at this point, we have headwork covered, fueling is covered, manifolds are good, recent builds are showing cams aren't absolutely necessary... RPM is what is holding us back right now. I'm running out to 7200 right now on stock block to broaden my power band. If (when?) I build my engine, I'd be hoping for 8500-9000.

I will jizz my pants when the first person to do 8500-9000 is announced.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 Bump. @David@COBB I know plenty of us have sent pm's about this... and yes I know this will not be a quick process, just wondering if there are any updates or if you guys have at least begun looking into these changes?

you mean you diddent get a PM response?

[Jarods7920]

PM Has been sent.

[BigRedSpecial]

Originally Posted by breakfstincluded I will jizz my pants when the first person to do 8500-9000 is announced.

I can dream can't I?

[ms3blackmica]

@Cobb Tuning;

With David@COBB no longer working with you, will you still be implementing this?

The Mazdaspeed platform is evolving rapidly and there are several builds that are able to support a higher redline and components that will allow it.

This will only become more popular (as it already is) and common.

I think I can speak for the community when I say that having the appropriate RPM breakpoints is a vital control that is neccessary to properly tune beyond 7000 PRM.

Please let us know.

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by ms3blackmica @Cobb Tuning; With David@COBB no longer working with you, will you still be implementing this? The Mazdaspeed platform is evolving rapidly and there are several builds that are able to support a higher redline and components that will allow it. This will only become more popular (as it already is) and common. I think I can speak for the community when I say that having the proper RPM breakpoints is a vital control that is neccessary to properly tune beyond 7000 PRM. Please let us know.

Not sure if this means anything, but i got a random call from cobb the other day asking how i liked my v3 and if i had any requests for future products or updates to the v3. I had mentioned this thread and he knew of it, he said this was still in the works and someone else had taken over this project. Id take this with a grain of salt, but hey, hopefully they are still working on it.

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[Jarods7920]

So David is not working for Cobb anymore? Or what's up with that?

[LumberJack]

Originally Posted by Jarods7920 So David is not working for Cobb anymore? Or what's up with that?

He was let go a few weeks ago.

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[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by LumberJack He was let go a few weeks ago. Sent from my LG-LS980 using Tapatalk

They finally catch him peeing in the coffee pot?

[Jarods7920]

That's not good at all. So who is out POC for this now?

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by dot584 Put me on the list, I will be building once I graduate collage so I will make full use of this and all of the future improvements. Sent from GS4

Maybe you should head back to high school? Just sayin' - COLLEGE

[Evan@COBB]

Originally Posted by Jarods7920 That's not good at all. So who is out POC for this now?

Myself and @Cobb Tuning; are here for ya!

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[Jarods7920]

So is this an active effort or is this something that will happen eventually?

[Evan@COBB]

This is something that has been on the list for a little while. With David being gone, we have some new faces taking over the effort. There is a bit of learning curve coming from other platforms but they'll be up to speed fairly quickly.

We have a big project we're working on for Mazda and, hopefully, RPM scaling will be part of it.

[NJSPEED3]

Thanks guys

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[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Evan@COBB This is something that has been on the list for a little while. With David being gone, we have some new faces taking over the effort. There is a bit of learning curve coming from other platforms but they'll be up to speed fairly quickly. We have a big project we're working on for Mazda and, hopefully, RPM scaling will be part of it.

Any hints/teasers available?

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by hnda etr Any hints/teasers available?

Nope lol


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[Evan@COBB]

Originally Posted by hnda etr Any hints/teasers available?

Nope! Hahaha

Patience, my friend

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[Boosted Beluga]

In for more rpms

[hnda etr]

Originally Posted by Evan@COBB Nope! Hahaha Patience, my friend Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk

I debated between the Thanks button and the Groan button... took a minute to decide lol

[Enki]

Im down for this, if I ever pop the motor.

[Realgib3]

BUMP
@Evan@COBB; Racing season is just around the corner and this will KILL us if you guys aren't going to be able to get us more rpm.

Looking for a real update to keep me from having to make the switch to another tuning platform...

[ms3blackmica]

I got in contact with Trey Cobb (owner of Cobb Tuning) and spoke with him on the subject.

I expressed the platforms requirement for such a control and the importance of it to us.

RPM Scaling is definitely on the list of things to do and has been given high priority.

It will take time but it will be done.

Cobb Tuning is definitely here for us.

[Evan@COBB]

^^^^^^^ What this guy said.

[ms3blackmica]

See.

[NJSPEED3]

Crack whips!

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[ms3blackmica]

Some of you may have seen me post about this in other threads but I thought that I might post it here so all are updated.

I have been in frequent contact with Cobb and the engineer assigned to develop Dynamic RPM Scaling with the ECU. This task is one of the higher priorities items on his plate of things to do.

Their plan is to incorporate RPM scaling for ALL tables exposed in AccessTuner that have RPM as an axis, not just specific ones.

To aid in this development and help speed up the process, I have offered to help test this new control on a dyno prior to its official release to ensure its functionality is 100%.

I know that many of you cannot wait for this control and neither can I.

However, this will take some time to do properly. As of right now, there is no precise time frame as to when development will begin but it should be soon.

I can tell you with confidence that Cobb knows we need this control and is aware of this platform's success and progress over the past year.

Thank you to everyone helping push the platform in every way possible.

I will update you guys here when their is progress.

This platform's future is very bright.

-Nishan

[Jh8909]

Makes me giggle like a little school girl. Makes me glad to be a part of this platform

[rfinkle2]

Originally Posted by ms3blackmica I got in contact with Trey Cobb (owner of Cobb Tuning) and spoke with him on the subject. I expressed the platforms requirement for such a control and the importance of it to us. RPM Scaling is definitely on the list of things to do and has been given high priority. It will take time but it will be done. Cobb Tuning is definitely here for us.

Who has replaced David in terms of atr support?

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Who has replaced David in terms of atr support?

Apparently @ms3blackmica; has lol

[ms3blackmica]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Apparently @ms3blackmica; has lol

HAHA.

It is not me Easter Bunny. I wouldn't mind a job at Cobb though!

I've just been pushing to get this control for some time now and finally have a valid update for you guys.

Originally Posted by rfinkle2 Who has replaced David in terms of atr support?

Rob I am not sure who has replaced David in terms of ATR support on the forum.

All I know is that, behind the scenes we don't see, Cobb is working on us.

[ms3blackmica]

Just a little update:

About a month ago, I gave the Engineers at COBB a complete list of every table with an RPM axis that needs to be modified for appropriate tuning beyond 7000 RPM for all 8 ECU ROM's that exist as well as provided plenty feedback on how the ECU functions up there in the heavens of 8000 RPM.

They are currently working on several projects for the MS ECU but this one is coming first and is being worked on now.

I plan to fly out to COBB HQ in Austin, TX in 1 month to visit my good friend Evan@COBB and hopefully lend a hand!

This is NOT an easy development so have a little patience while they work on doing things right.

What VersaTuner did was change a global RPM lookup and that is why they can support up to 8000 RPM. However, this is dangerous practice as it is unknown how this will affect other various tables.

Remember, everything in our ECU is dynamically generated (aka "on the fly").

When you scale a load axis in AccessTuner, only the tables it effects are changed and none else. This is what allows it to work flawlessly and every other ECU functions remains untouched, thus works great.

This is the same plan for RPM adjustments.

Stay tuned guys.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by ms3blackmica Just a little update: About a month ago, I gave the Engineers at COBB a complete list of every table with an RPM axis that needs to be modified for appropriate tuning beyond 7000 RPM for all 8 ECU ROM's that exist as well as provided plenty feedback on how the ECU functions up there in the heavens of 8000 RPM. They are currently working on several projects for the MS ECU but this one is coming first and is being worked on now. I plan to fly out to COBB HQ in Austin, TX in 1 month to visit my good friend Evan@COBB and hopefully lend a hand! This is NOT an easy development so have a little patience while they work on doing things right. What VersaTuner did was change a global RPM lookup and that is why they can support up to 8000 RPM. However, this is dangerous practice as it is unknown how this will affect other various tables. Remember, everything in our ECU is dynamically generated (aka "on the fly"). When you scale a load axis in AccessTuner, only the tables it effects are changed and none else. This is what allows it to work flawlessly and every other ECU functions remains untouched, thus works great. This is the same plan for RPM adjustments. Stay tuned guys.

great news and a huge step for the community.

have my babies.

[ms3blackmica]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf have my babies.

Thoon.

[Mazdazilla6]

Originally Posted by ms3blackmica Cobb Tuning is definitely here for us.

Is this still true? We've heard nothing from @Cobb Tuning and this just happened VersaTuner v1.9 Released!.

I know myself and plenty of other locals are planning on switching over. I'd be much more inclined to stay with my AP if Cobb could even tell us that they're still working on our ECU or give us some things to expect with the next update to ATR, whenever that may be.