ATP Bolt On Turbos At EdgeAutosport

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Advanced Tuning Products (ATP Turbo) is a company that has devoted itself to turbocharging and all that is associated with turbocharging. They have dedicated their engineering and manufacturing towards taking fresh and functional approaches with re-imagining turbocharger systems. Their designs are simple yet highly effective and reliable. ATP Turbo is centered around adapting Garrett Turbocharges to many different vehicle types for easy bolt on installation with all the performance that is associated with Garrett turbos.

At EdgeAutosport, we carry the complete line of ATP products but today I just want to feature the bolt on turbo kits. Aside from the AP and Autotechs, this is the next best bang for your buck mod available to the Mazdaspeed platform. And bolting on 350 to 400 horsepower doesn't get any easier than this.

To start, we have the ATP GT2871r Bolt on Turbo ($1499). This turbo is efficient from 20 to 21psi on the MS3 and 6 and will flow enough air for up to 400 hp at the crank.



The next step up from that would be the ATP GT3071 Bolt on Turbo ($1599). The GT3071 flows a bit more on the top end than the GT2871 but it does sacrifice a little more low end power with a bit slower spool. It can support up to 450 crank hp and is efficient up to 22psi on the MS3/6.



The ATP GTX2867 Bolt on Turbo ($1699) is probably the best all around turbo for the MS3/6 because it spools up like the GT2871 while flowing up top like a GT3071. This means it has a much more useable power-band that works within the range of the factory fuel limitations. The GTX2867 can support up to 480 crank hp.



The ATP GT3076 Bolt On Turbo Kit ($1599) is going to be the next step up from the GTX2867. It flows up to 56 lbs/min and will be good for 500+ crank hp. The GT3076 will spool up a few hundred rpm later than the GT3071 but has quite a bit more top end power and will pull much harder to redline.



The ATP GTX3071 Bolt On Turbo Kit ($1799) is a one up from the GT3076. Flowing just slightly more air at 57 lbs/min. It will have a touch more top end on it than the 3076 with a quicker spool as well by a few hundred rpms.



And finally the Grand Daddy of the 30r turbos, the ATP GTX3076 Bolt On Turbo ($1799). This turbo takes you up into 35r territory with the quicker spool of the 3076. Flowing 65 lbs/min, this turbo can take you up over 600 crank hp.



All of the ATP bolt on turbos come with pretty much everything you need for installation. Including the Oil Return Line, the Coolant Feed Line, Low profile Banjo Bolt for the oil feed line, a boost tap to create a boost source for the BCS, and a coupler to connect the turbo to a top mount intercooler.

[Fail_6]

Not to nit pick, but the 2871 is capable of much greater than 20-21 psi, as well as 400 crank. Without meth, addln injectors, engine internals or properly gapped plugs, I was able to make 20 less than the crank figure advertised at the wheel, which with a 15-20% drivetrain loss factored works to somewhere btwn 430-460 crank hp

And we're still not done

Its worth mentioning though my tune was reasonably aggressive, with almost 25 psi at redline.

All in all, these are all equally beastly turbos though, and a great buy regardless of size, esp if purchased through you guys. With a beastly tune and tuner, great numbers can be extracted, sometime even superseding the expectations, without compromising daily drivability. Have your cake and eat it too.

Great deals and customer service is the name of the game here, and I don't think it gets too much better than Edge!

[Polish_Eagle]

I hate you guys right now! All these temptations you keep posting, but school bills take the priority. Damn it!

[Poohster]

This is great info for future BTers. I do have a question. I bought a GTX2867R from you back last April 13. I got whole kit with the exception of oil return line. Is this something new? I haven't install my GTX yet and was wonder if this is available? Thanks.

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Poohster This is great info for future BTers. I do have a question. I bought a GTX2867R from you back last April 13. I got whole kit with the exception of oil return line. Is this something new? I haven't install my GTX yet and was wonder if this is available? Thanks.

On the MS6, you should be able to reuse the stock oil return line.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Poohster This is great info for future BTers. I do have a question. I bought a GTX2867R from you back last April 13. I got whole kit with the exception of oil return line. Is this something new? I haven't install my GTX yet and was wonder if this is available? Thanks.

Like Code Monkey said, the MS6 guys have to reuse the Oil return line but the MS6 Kit's come with step down studs to fit the oil return line with bigger turbo.

[Poohster]

Thanks. That braided line looks really nice.

[Micha]

Sooooo, I am using a GTX3076 ewg that I originally got for my speed 3 on my speed 6 now. What different parts do I need exactly to make it work?

Thanks.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Micha Sooooo, I am using a GTX3076 ewg that I originally got for my speed 3 on my speed 6 now. What different parts do I need exactly to make it work? Thanks.

You won't use the oil return line, and you will need the step down studs to allow the factory oil return line to fit with the big turbo.

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by Micha Sooooo, I am using a GTX3076 ewg that I originally got for my speed 3 on my speed 6 now. What different parts do I need exactly to make it work?

You will need a 90* elbow to clear the TC.

I would recommend against the step-down studs, linky. Take your stock oil drain line to a machine shop and have the holes enlarged to accept 8mm bolts, linky.

However, first check if the oil drain line fits or you will waste $20, linky.

You may have to go custom, linky.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Remember, these turbos are all currently included in our tax sale so now is a great time to save on them...

[nukepilot]

Leme get this right, this is everything I need , all inclusive minus(tune internals ect ect)to go BT.

[anodizedeeznutz]

Originally Posted by nukepilot Leme get this right, this is everything I need , all inclusive minus(tune internals ect ect)to go BT.

You'll need a few other things such as a 3 bar map sensor.

Tapatalkin'

[kbz0129]

So looks I'm going to end up buying the gtx3076r ewg setup that atp offers soon. Anything you guys recommend buying with it besides the bigger intake, 3 bar map, pnp harness, and ebcs?

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by kbz0129 So looks I'm going to end up buying the gtx3076r ewg setup that atp offers soon. Anything you guys recommend buying with it besides the bigger intake, 3 bar map, pnp harness, and ebcs?

It depends on what intercooler setup you have. If you have a top mount intercooler still, then the coupler that comes with the kit will work with that. But if you have a front mount you may need to get a different coupler for the hot pipe to compressor outlet.

The GT turbo's compressor outlet is 2" (slightly smaller than stock) and it is much shorter. So for instance, if you had a cobb FMIC, you would need to get a 2" straight coupler, a 2" metal joiner, and a 2.5" to 2" 90 degree silicon reducer coupler (as well as the appropriate clamps). This will allow you to get the intercooler connected to the turbo.

[BZiggy10]

Originally Posted by kbz0129 So looks I'm going to end up buying the gtx3076r ewg setup that atp offers soon.

I am going to be getting that same setup next black Friday, if ATP will participate in the sale not sure if they did this last one.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by BZiggy10 I am going to be getting that same setup next black Friday, if ATP will participate in the sale not sure if they did this last one.

Yeah ATP was included in the BF sale and will most likely still be included this year too

[kbz0129]

Ahh I'm glad I asked. I'm running the cx racing piping and upgrading the core to a tr8 or so. I'll have to take a look at the cobb kit to compare I guess. Thanks for the heads up you guys are awesome!

[Boostin'likeAboss]

Just wanted to make sure, I've been searching and reading gtx2867r threads and couldn't find an answer.

Would I be fine with an IWG with a 3in catless DP?

edit: looks like i found my answer lol

PSA: Internal Wastegates and ATP turbos

[EdgeAutosport.com]

There is always the possibility of creep with the IWG turbos and you can sometimes have issues of higher creep, but most people run around 23 to 24psi on these turbos and that is usually more than what the turbo will creep too.

[Boostin'likeAboss]

Alright thanks, looks like I have more reading to do

[Lex]

Originally Posted by Boostin'likeAboss Alright thanks, looks like I have more reading to do

Just to add on what Edge said - creep is highly dependant on your exhaust setup, intake setup, and ambient temperatures and pressures. If you have a 3" catless TBE and a big intake and well flowing intercooler you are more likely to creep especially when the temperatures drop in the winter. Higher altitude cars are less likely to creep.

If you are creeping with your setup and temperatures you see, you can port the wastegate or weld in a high flow cat in the test pipe location to prevent boost reep. The welded in cat is easier to do and if you have a two piece downpipe can be taken in and out (cold and warm weather) fairly easily.

[Boostin'likeAboss]

Originally Posted by Lex Just to add on what Edge said - creep is highly dependant on your exhaust setup, intake setup, and ambient temperatures and pressures. If you have a 3" catless TBE and a big intake and well flowing intercooler you are more likely to creep especially when the temperatures drop in the winter. Higher altitude cars are less likely to creep. If you are creeping with your setup and temperatures you see, you can port the wastegate or weld in a high flow cat in the test pipe location to prevent boost reep. The welded in cat is easier to do and if you have a two piece downpipe can be taken in and out (cold and warm weather) fairly easily.

Thanks Lex.

I planned out a setup with some pretty solid flow, 3in catless TBE, 3in TIP/SRI, and an upgraded higher flow TMIC. Factoring in the WI winter temps I'am pretty sure I would have some creep issues. looks like I'd either have to go EWG or take a better look / read into the BNR S3.

and of course, you know I'd have to get a strat tune!

[alextheguineapig]

Originally Posted by Boostin'likeAboss Thanks Lex. I planned out a setup with some pretty solid flow, 3in catless TBE, 3in TIP/SRI, and an upgraded higher flow TMIC. Factoring in the WI winter temps I'am pretty sure I would have some creep issues. looks like I'd either have to go EWG or take a better look / read into the BNR S3. and of course, you know I'd have to get a strat tune!

As I understand it, the BNR will also creep with a larger intake and catless set up.

[Boostin'likeAboss]

Originally Posted by raigekijin As I understand it, the BNR will also creep with a larger intake and catless set up.

yeah, after doing some reading the k04 will even creep with all that extra flow lol. looks like EWG it is

[NCspecV81]

+1. Picked up the 3067r from these guys. Even gave me the tax return discount for something that wasn't even listed on their site. That's grade A delivery of service right there!

I'm wondering if the 3067r can dethrone the gtx28 for best of all worlds turbo

[Lex]

Originally Posted by NCspecV81 +1. Picked up the 3067r from these guys. Even gave me the tax return discount for something that wasn't even listed on their site. That's grade A delivery of service right there! I'm wondering if the 3067r can dethrone the gtx28 for best of all worlds turbo

I think you're about to find out .

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by NCspecV81 +1. Picked up the 3067r from these guys. Even gave me the tax return discount for something that wasn't even listed on their site. That's grade A delivery of service right there! I'm wondering if the 3067r can dethrone the gtx28 for best of all worlds turbo

We, as I'm sure a lot of people here are looking forward to your results!

[Mr Wilson]

Very much so.......hoping we'll hear about them before the end of March

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Just wanted to add a couple turbos to the list...

The ATP GT3076 Bolt On Turbo Kit ($1599) is going to be the next step up from the GTX2867. It flows up to 56 lbs/min and will be good for 500+ crank hp. The GT3076 will spool up a few hundred rpm later than the GT3071 but has quite a bit more top end power and will pull much harder to redline.



The ATP GTX3071 Bolt On Turbo Kit ($1799) is a one up from the GT3076. Flowing just slightly more air at 57 lbs/min. It will have a touch more top end on it than the 3076 with a quicker spool as well by a few hundred rpms.



And finally the Grand Daddy of the 30r turbos, the ATP GTX3076 Bolt On Turbo ($1799). This turbo takes you up into 35r territory with the quicker spool of the 3076. Flowing 65 lbs/min, this turbo can take you up over 600 crank hp.

[The Panda]

So a lot of the creep stories you will hear leave out the fact that most of them ported the ATP housing and wastegate to improve flow... but in reality they hurt them self by porting the Wastegate tunnle which causes creep.. As for Ko4's I run 27psi on mine and have no creep issue as I swapped out the WGA for a 14psi PTP one. All in Alll you want EWG as you can run 4 port EBCS which is a huge tunning advantage.

[NCspecV81]

Originally Posted by The Panda So a lot of the creep stories you will hear leave out the fact that most of them ported the ATP housing and wastegate to improve flow... but in reality they hurt them self by porting the Wastegate tunnle which causes creep.. As for Ko4's I run 27psi on mine and have no creep issue as I swapped out the WGA for a 14psi PTP one. All in Alll you want EWG as you can run 4 port EBCS which is a huge tunning advantage.

My first ATP turbo was creep free. Let you know on the second in about a week's time. I done zero porting.

[Boost_creep]

Just want to say thanks again to @EdgeAutosport.com; for the sweet deal on my GTX3071R.

I also wanted to mention that it looks like ATP has revised their hot sides to decrease possible boost creep. The crescent shaped obstruction that I have seen in the past is no longer there. It looks like they have done their own porting before assembling the turbo.

As a side note- mine shipped right from ATP, as edge was out of stock. So this may be a very recent change.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Boost_creep Just want to say thanks again to @EdgeAutosport.com; for the sweet deal on my GTX3071R. I also wanted to mention that it looks like ATP has revised their hot sides to decrease possible boost creep. The crescent shaped obstruction that I have seen in the past is no longer there. It looks like they have done their own porting before assembling the turbo. As a side note- mine shipped right from ATP, as edge was out of stock. So this may be a very recent change.

We are glad you got your turbo and are very happy with it!

Typically most ATP turbos are shipped directly from ATP as they are built to order.

Though we do have an EWG GTX3071 for an MS6 on the shelf here right now.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

The GTX3067 (that is GTX30 sixty-seven) is on the site now.

ATP Turbo GTX3067 Bolt-On Turbo Mazdaspeed 3

[mazda_speed_6]

What would be the best gtx turbo for 600 awhp would the gtx 3576 make this power?

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by mazda_speed_6 What would be the best gtx turbo for 600 awhp would the gtx 3576 make this power?

If you have the fuel to do it, the GTX3576 will certainly get you there. You could probably also get that power out of a GTX3076 if you push it.

[mazda_speed_6]

Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com If you have the fuel to do it, the GTX3576 will certainly get you there. You could probably also get that power out of a GTX3076 if you push it.

I'll definitely be upgraging the fuel system I'm making a list for a build.. would you say the gtx3576 would make 600hp with less stress on the turbo? I've read on the turbo flow chart thread they flow the same if I'm remembering right but I would think the gtx3576 would make these numbers and be safer because of the bigger cold side.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by mazda_speed_6 I'll definitely be upgraging the fuel system I'm making a list for a build.. would you say the gtx3576 would make 600hp with less stress on the turbo? I've read on the turbo flow chart thread they flow the same if I'm remembering right but I would think the gtx3576 would make these numbers and be safer because of the bigger cold side.

Yes the GTX3576 will flow more at less boost than the GTX3076.

[keychain12]

Recently purchased and installed the ATP GTX2867 from Edge

The powerband is great! Lovin it so far!