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EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 06:51 PM

BIG TURBO Questions!
 
Hey guys anyone have any questions on big turbos from drop in kits to fully custom t3 kits ask them here! Also anything to do with iwg and ewg turbos feel free to post them up here!


Eric

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 07:25 PM

bump who wants 400whp+ reliable power :drive:

SleeperHatch 09-27-2011 07:27 PM

Can you give us a list of exactly everything that would need to be purchased for a GTX 3071?

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 07:32 PM

Well if you are fully bolted already which includes, intake,fuel pump/internals,tmic or fmic and full 3 inch turbo back exhaust and Cobb AP or CPE Stand back to really benefit the a maximize the upgrade of a big turbo.

The only thing to order is a atp gtx drop in kit and big turbo inlet and you would be good to break the 400whp mark with a solid tune.

SleeperHatch 09-27-2011 07:33 PM

Great so all i need is GTX turbo kit and inlet

RyansSpd3 09-27-2011 07:36 PM

Running BT is it a good idea to upgrade clutch to handle torque? Do you think it's a bad idea to daily drive a 400hp bt setup?

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 (Post 1062664)
Great so all i need is GTX turbo kit and inlet

Ed Zachary!

crazyp 09-27-2011 07:38 PM

do you guys only sell GT30 series turbos?

any precision, Borg warner, etc. journal vs ball bearing.

I had a garret fail on me recently and the fact I cant really rebuild it sucks

SleeperHatch 09-27-2011 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport (Post 1062670)
Ed Zachary!

No idea what thats supposed to mean

crazyp 09-27-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 (Post 1062674)
No idea what thats supposed to mean

lol exactly! ;)

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyansSpd3 (Post 1062669)
Running BT is it a good idea to upgrade clutch to handle torque? Do you think it's a bad idea to daily drive a 400hp bt setup?

Great question, I have 450whp and I have 15+ dyno pulls, several track visits and several autox events. On top of that I commute 100 miles to my job everyday and have yet to have problem.

As of today I just turned 65k and my clutch is holding just fine, It may be in my head that its getting a tad soft but its not slipping in the least bit. Only time will tell and I will keep this updated. I have about 10k on my bt build and the previous 30k were spent with 330whp and 380wtq.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyp (Post 1062672)
do you guys only sell GT30 series turbos?

any precision, Borg warner, etc. journal vs ball bearing.

I had a garret fail on me recently and the fact I cant really rebuild it sucks

yeah man we can get you basically anything. what did you have in mind?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 (Post 1062674)
No idea what thats supposed to mean

it means exactly. lol

SleeperHatch 09-27-2011 07:51 PM

Oh lol haaha

8.5MS3 09-27-2011 07:53 PM

how bout a turbo that can make roughly 350-375whp @ <20psi....good for us with stock internals

and do you guys do packages?

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8.5MS3 (Post 1062709)
how bout a turbo that can make roughly 350-375whp @ <20psi....good for us with stock internals

and do you guys do packages?

Yes we do packages (anything you need we can put together for you) and a turbo that would do well in that range would be a 3071r

Im also on stock internals on my power levels and the car loves it.

blkspeed307 09-27-2011 08:35 PM

^^^so u recommend a 3071r, completely drop in with stock mani.

RyansSpd3 09-27-2011 08:35 PM

Thanks for the great info...are you on stock engine internals? Rods, pistons, etc.

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkspeed307 (Post 1062766)
^^^so u recommend a 3071r, completely drop in with stock mani.

yup that would make great dd power and still have awesome spool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyansSpd3 (Post 1062767)
Thanks for the great info...are you on stock engine internals? Rods, pistons, etc.


Im on stock everything and about to install n20 to really see what our stock blocks can handle.

blkspeed307 09-27-2011 08:50 PM

Can u pm $ on 3071r , that's next purchase after fp internals
Thanks

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 08:52 PM

pm'd

Alpha 09-27-2011 08:58 PM

I wonder how much a Steedspeed Mani would net a GTX setup over the stock EM?

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1062804)
I wonder how much a Steedspeed Mani would net a GTX setup over the stock EM?

Thats a great question, I run a prototype Steed Speed mani and my buddy and I run roughly run the same mods minus he runs meth and I dont and I made 37whp more then he did.

Its really up in the air and to many variables but the definitly flow much better then stock.

JacksonMS30 09-27-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1062804)
I wonder how much a Steedspeed Mani would net a GTX setup over the stock EM?

I will hopefully, eventually be able to answer this question. I'll be upgrading to the steedspeed before too long...

blkspeed307 09-27-2011 09:09 PM

Think I won't be going beaner stg3 now after pm
Gtx ftw
Thanks

JTMS3 09-27-2011 09:11 PM

PM me the pricing for the drop in 3071r Xmas is around the corner and maybe the misses will drop more than her panties for me.

Alpha 09-27-2011 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport (Post 1062810)
Thats a great question, I run a prototype Steed Speed mani and my buddy and I run roughly run the same mods minus he runs meth and I dont and I made 37whp more then he did.

Its really up in the air and to many variables but the definitly flow much better then stock.

Wow, that's impressive and well worth the $ IMHO. Is this prototype different than his standard flanged mani that's available now?

I'm definitely looking to stay IWG.

EdgeAutosport.com 09-27-2011 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1062828)
Wow, that's impressive and well worth the $ IMHO. Is this prototype different than his standard flanged mani that's available now?

I'm definitely looking to stay IWG.

Well the difference is that I have the mani with the interchangable flanges and the manifolds that are available now are actually supposed to flow more then the manifold im running currently. I could see them doing 40whp+ with the new design

We are also having a super duper sale on these new drop in atp GTX turbo kits for 1,649.00 shipped!!!!!

pm me if you want one!

SleeperHatch 09-27-2011 10:06 PM

How long is this "sale"?

SSinstaller 09-27-2011 10:11 PM

Will the GTX35 CHRA work with my standard GT35 compressor and turbine housings?

RyansSpd3 09-28-2011 06:59 AM

Holy crap keep that awesome price by spring 2012...thats my realistic goal of going bt

EdgeAutosport.com 09-28-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperSpeed3 (Post 1062891)
How long is this "sale"?

As long as you need :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSinstaller (Post 1062898)
Will the GTX35 CHRA work with my standard GT35 compressor and turbine housings?

I spoke to atp not to long ago and unfortunately we can not just send in our regular model GT turbo and have them make it into a GTX. The good news is they are looking into that so hopefully it will be able to happen sooner then later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyansSpd3 (Post 1063106)
Holy crap keep that awesome price by spring 2012...thats my realistic goal of going bt

will do sir

adlpb 09-28-2011 08:38 AM

So Eric, how much for the whole package (GTX3071 + cp-e BT inlet)?

BTW, thanks for this thread

Alpha 09-28-2011 08:39 AM

So all the creep and IWG issues are solved now even with the higher flowing GTX series'?

That was really my only hesitation before...

EdgeAutosport.com 09-28-2011 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adlpb (Post 1063191)
So Eric, how much for the whole package (GTX3071 + cp-e BT inlet)?

BTW, thanks for this thread

pm'd thanks for reading it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1063193)
So all the creep and IWG issues are solved now even with the higher flowing GTX series'?

That was really my only hesitation before...


Yeah no creep what so ever. These turbos rock man soon enough will I be seeing a gtx35r in my bay but dont tell JP :shhh:

8.5MS3 09-28-2011 08:42 AM

^^that plus all necessary lines, gaskets, manifold options and a boost controller if required

ex: Steedspeed mani, new exhaust manifold gasket/dp gasket/mani-turbo gasket, gtx3071, necessary coolant/oil lines w/fittings, cpe whale dick tip for a total of XXXX dollars

trf5000 09-28-2011 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1063193)
So all the creep and IWG issues are solved now even with the higher flowing GTX series'?

That was really my only hesitation before...

Yea that is my question as well. How is boost control working with these IWG on these ATP turbos? Is anyone having any boost control issues?

Edit* NVM, answered b4 I could post haha

adlpb 09-28-2011 08:49 AM

Eric, another question that just came to mind. I think you might also have to replace your MAP controller, as the stock one only reads accurately up to ~22psi (granted your tune goes above this level).

Also, wouldn't it be recommendable to buy an EBCS?


Edit did mean to click edit your post i meant to do it on mine lol

EdgeAutosport.com 09-28-2011 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 8.5MS3 (Post 1063200)
^^that plus all necessary lines, gaskets, manifold options and a boost controller if required

ex: Steedspeed mani, new exhaust manifold gasket/dp gasket/mani-turbo gasket, gtx3071, necessary coolant/oil lines w/fittings, cpe whale dick tip for a total of XXXX dollars

These kits will include brand new 8.8 hardened studs, self locking 15mm nuts, oil return line, new banjo bolts for the oil feed and coolant return utilizing stock hard lines with those and the full brand new coolant to egr line.

I reused my stock gaskets as they are metal and all the kits I have installed and no one has yet to have any problems with them leaking. Also one last thing to order would be a 45* coupler 2''-2.5'' to fit from the turbo to hot pipe so its a direct bolt-up with your fmic



This is another great question, you are correct the stock map sensor only reads to 22 psi but I still run it without a hitch. To compensate all you need is a accurate boost gauge and to up the boost an mbc (i run the grimmspeed) or an ebcs. DJ (djuosnteisn) runs the same 2.5 and he is planning for 30+ psi so really it comes down to personal preference

EdgeAutosport.com 09-28-2011 10:21 AM

ttt who has more questions even if they are complete noob questions we all started somewhere!

EdgeAutosport.com 09-29-2011 07:51 AM

bump

RyansSpd3 09-29-2011 09:22 AM

So about the intake..if going bt all i need is a bigger TIP and the rest of the intake can remain the same? I have a mazdaspeed CAI


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