FULL RACE MANIFOLDS!!!!!

[superskaterxes]

this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why.

i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

[djuosnteisn]

Originally Posted by superskaterxes this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why. i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right?

But isn't a manifold just a manifold?

You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right?

It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms.


And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing!

I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right? But isn't a manifold just a manifold? You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right? It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms. And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing! I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

Couldnt have said it better.

If FR had a T3 twinscroll option I'd buy it ASAP. There shit has been proven across many platforms, no idea why someone would think it would change for us.

I think both companies are in it for the long run, both have great products. No need to start a whos dick is bigger then whos ordeal.

Because in all reality im going to win, I have a huge cock.

[Alpha]

Originally Posted by PapaSmurf Couldnt have said it better. If FR had a T3 twinscroll option I'd buy it ASAP. There shit has been proven across many platforms, no idea why someone would think it would change for us. I think both companies are in it for the long run, both have great products. No need to start a whos dick is bigger then whos ordeal.

If/when they do... It'll be a T4 flange.

[PapaSmurf]

Originally Posted by Alpha If/when they do... It'll be a T4 flange.

This I know because all of the twinscroll EFR's are t4.

[superskaterxes]

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn To play devil's advocate a lil bit.... you mentioned in SD's intake manifold thread that even if there were a cheaper option out there... you'd STILL buy JMFab's manifold, right? Even if i had a sand cast / machined design very similar to the cosi manifold, with amazing flow and balance, and could sell it for ~$450. You'd still pay the ~$800+ for the JMF, right? But isn't a manifold just a manifold? You like JMF's (SD's) design cause it's been proven, and the craftsmanship is top notch. You know the guy who built the first version, and the guy(s) working on the latest. You know they do good work on other platforms, and their manifold's truly perform fantastic. That's why you would buy their manifold. Right? It's the same thing with Full Race. They do amazing work. They've invested in state of the art equipment to build state of the art products. They do their design homework to make certain the final product performs as intended, and if it doesn't, they re-design til it does. That's how they've earned the rep they have, and why they're regarded so highly in other platforms. And i'm by no means whatsoever trying to say FR >> RB, or that RB isn't a quality manifold. I'm not as familiar with them, but they look great as well. I have no clue how the guy can sell them for as cheap as he does without completely neutering his margins, but hey, that's his secret. The real proof will come months / years from now, after lots of miles and abuse are put into the manifolds. And if they stand up to the test, then lucky us! Having yet another quality option is never a bad thing! I'm curious to see if their price / quality will change once a distributor starts slinging lots of them. Edge certainly has the ability to move product, but hopefully not more than RB can provide.

your argument is fair but scotts mani in stock form (no bells) is closer to 600. the reason i would buy his is because some of the profit is going towards him and he has put the time and effort into this platform and deserves some back.

not to say your design wouldent be as good or better but its the same thing with the CPE injector seals. PTP had identical designs but i bought the CPE version because i knew i was supporting scott even though they were more expensive.


the point here is the FR manifold is not even close to the same price as RB and your not getting anything else except for robotic welds and a name brand. an 11sec DSM and 11sec BMW are tens of thousands of dollars apart but in the end its still an 11 sec pass for both of them. no matter how u slice it there's no justification for this price.


when the midevil manifolds first came out they were 875 and i LAUGHED in their faces about how no one would buy them. aside from the drama that happened with them, no one ever made any more HP with one then they did with a PG/DNP.....