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JP@edgeautosport.com 01-26-2012 10:35 AM

FULL RACE MANIFOLDS!!!!!
 
Hey guys, the Full Race MZR DISI exhaust manifolds are now available for PRE ORDER for a few weeks out!

Here's a link to Full Race's site. Pricing is same as Full Race at this point. We'll post up more info as we get it.

Mazdaspeed Prostock Turbo Manifold ( 2.3 DISI MZR ) - Full-Race.com

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...S6/MZRMani.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...ManiFlange.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MZRMani5.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MZRMani4.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MZRMani3.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MZRMani2.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MS6Mani2.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MS6Mani1.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...S6/MS3Mani.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MS3Mani3.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...6/MS3Mani2.jpg

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/...iCollector.jpg

maisonvi 01-26-2012 10:36 AM

damn that is nice looking.

uncorked11 01-26-2012 10:41 AM

Very nice looking mani.

Easter Bunny 01-26-2012 10:49 AM

Great news that you will be stocking these, should make for easier purchasing for everyone

WVDPS643 01-26-2012 10:51 AM

Oh its so magnificent! Price?

Nevermind on the price. Found it.

JP@edgeautosport.com 01-26-2012 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WVDPS643 (Post 1228692)
Oh its so magnificent! Price?

MSRP is $1099, but we'll offer them at $899 as an intro price. Not sure how long Full Race will let that price last. They have LIFETIME WARRANTIES!! If you know anything about Full Race, you know they make awesome manifolds.

ccspeed3 01-26-2012 10:56 AM

I'll be getting one for sure

Alpha 01-26-2012 10:59 AM

The quality, materials, engineering, and craftsmanship put into these manifolds is second to none... Now being able to get them through a great vendor is just icing on the cake!

Cheers JP! :biggthumpup:

Proshop 01-26-2012 11:20 AM

Pure sex!!!! Great add to your line upto guys. :35:

ZPrice 01-26-2012 12:26 PM

Good looking EM, looked on the site, no price break thru EDGE? Do they have some details on materials of contruction? Quite a bit more than RB EM but we need some more details.

Z

TRSpeed 01-26-2012 12:47 PM

Nice!

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SleeperHatch 01-26-2012 12:48 PM

Wow super nice with a price that might send me another way

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EdgeAutosport.com 01-26-2012 01:02 PM

So the real question is, who is ready to order one? :fest30:

Enki 01-26-2012 01:07 PM

Very tempted. They aren't ceramic coated, are they?

Alpha 01-26-2012 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enki (Post 1228933)
Very tempted. They aren't ceramic coated, are they?

Every other manifold that FR has made comes with more than one coating option, so I'm sure these will be no different. :wave:

i8urgti 01-26-2012 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport (Post 1228930)
So the real question is, who is ready to order one? :fest30:

not that i have a mazdaspeed to buy one anymore but may be you can make a package deal when someone buys an atp turbo

Alpha 01-26-2012 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8urgti (Post 1228942)
not that i have a mazdaspeed to buy one anymore but may be you can make a package deal when someone buys an atp turbo

This manifold mated to an ATP GTX and a Full Race DP (Which is coming soon and superior to what most have now) would make for one HELL of a setup!

EdgeAutosport.com 01-26-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8urgti (Post 1228942)
not that i have a mazdaspeed to buy one anymore but may be you can make a package deal when someone buys an atp turbo

This is very doable. Looks like I will slap the t3 version of this manifold on here very soon

ZPrice 01-26-2012 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1228907)
$899 IS a price break for a manifold of this quality.

You can't compare this product to RB... This is a robotically TIG'd piece with a lifetime warranty.

Ask RB if they'll give you a lifetime warranty against cracking and see what they say. End of story.

Two cheaper/cracked manifolds are more expensive than one FR manifold.

I ask the question as Edge usually has been less than the manufacturers number for the components I have purchased lately.

Since you chimed in then please answer the other questions concerning MOC. I also have not seen TIG welding performed by an automatic for pipe bores this small and especially on the flange to pipe welds but there are several processes I have not personally seen.

You are correct I cannot compare the two as I don't have both EMs sitting in front of me for simple visual inspection of the welds. My only comment was to the cost not the quality but thanks for your insight.

JP how long do anticipate the offering to be, I have a couple of large ticket items this week and next.

Enki 01-26-2012 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport (Post 1228955)
This is very doable. Looks like I will slap the t3 version of this manifold on here very soon

I was just wondering about that; if this mani would work with the new EFR coming out or not. Guess that answers that!

doubleflusher 01-26-2012 01:51 PM

T3 option?

EdgeAutosport.com 01-26-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleflusher (Post 1229033)
T3 option?

Look at the second manifold in the picture. That flange isnt tapered like the k04 its blocked like a t3 wouldd be, plus runner #3 looks different. It may not be offered yet but my eyes dont deceive me

Alpha 01-26-2012 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport (Post 1229042)
Look at the second manifold in the picture. That flange isnt tapered like the k04 its blocked like a t3 wouldd be, plus runner #3 looks different. It may not be offered yet but my eyes dont deceive me

That's a T25 flange for the 6258, 6758, and 7163 EFR turbos my good man. :naughty:

EdgeAutosport.com 01-26-2012 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1229067)
That's a T25 EFR flange my good man. :naughty:

thanks for the clarification. hmmmmm custom t3 option in the works? lol

djuosnteisn 01-26-2012 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZPrice (Post 1228956)
Since you chimed in then please answer the other questions concerning MOC. I also have not seen TIG welding performed by an automatic for pipe bores this small and especially on the flange to pipe welds but there are several processes I have not personally seen.

From what i've been told, FR uses a much different shielding gas mix than most people do (most traditionally use 100% argon, or slight mix with helium. I think FR uses significantly more helium or some other mix). The modified mix gives their welds much better penetration and heat control, but is quite a bit more dangerous. Because of that, i think they're actually required to use cnc tig welders, rather than welding by hand.

But i'm sure the finish welds, like collector to turbo flange, and runners to head flange are done by a human. At least most likely.

MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex 01-26-2012 03:22 PM

What size piping is used on the runners? Am I the only one that thinks it looks small?

superskaterxes 01-26-2012 03:33 PM

this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why.

i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

IshiKage 01-26-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1228907)
$899 IS a price break for a manifold of this quality.

You can't compare this product to RB, DNP, or any other tubular option... This is a robotically TIG'd piece with a lifetime warranty.

Ask RB if they'll give you a lifetime warranty against cracking and see what they say. End of story.

Two cheaper/cracked manifolds are more expensive than one FR manifold.

RB s manifolds have a lifetime warranty and great quality. Ask all the guys who are receiving them

superskaterxes 01-26-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IshiKage (Post 1229289)
RB s manifolds have a lifetime warranty and great quality. Ask all the guys who are receiving them

o shit.............


RB >> FR if both have a lifetime warranty. i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....

MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex 01-26-2012 03:57 PM

Why are there no details on this thing? Like what material it's constructed of, tubing wall thickness, tubing diameter, etc..etc....

dereeek 01-26-2012 04:02 PM

very interesting, and nice.

captain slow 01-26-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djuosnteisn (Post 1229151)
From what i've been told, FR uses a much different shielding gas mix than most people do (most traditionally use 100% argon, or slight mix with helium. I think FR uses significantly more helium or some other mix). The modified mix gives their welds much better penetration and heat control, but is quite a bit more dangerous. Because of that, i think they're actually required to use cnc tig welders, rather than welding by hand.

But i'm sure the finish welds, like collector to turbo flange, and runners to head flange are done by a human. At least most likely.



The amount of knowledge that comes from you amazes me. It also turns me on.....

superskaterxes 01-26-2012 04:06 PM

also why does it say:

Quote:

Designed to work with any stock or stock-frame upgrade turbocharger up to 500whp

MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex 01-26-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1229348)
also why does it say:

Because it's a stock turbo flange manifold.....

EdgeAutosport.com 01-26-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1229296)

i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....


This is going to be done very soon :)

superskaterxes 01-26-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MS3-a(sore)ASS-rex (Post 1229359)
Because it's a stock turbo flange manifold.....

and?

if my car was an MS3, i would be breaching 500whp right now...........ATP flange/DNP mani

Alpha 01-26-2012 04:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1229256)
this 899 price will prob last forever because when they figure out that they have only sold 3-5 manifolds after a few months they will understand why.

i cant speak for the quality of this one vs RB but at almost double the price, i would take my chances on the RB. my DNP is fine and its been almost 4 years. unless your looking at some crazy sidewinder, 800+hp build, a manifold is a manifold IMO.

Saying "A manifold is a manifold" is almost as ridiculous as saying" A turbo's a turbo."

I can guarantee you that nobody's put as much research, analysis, nor engineering in designing a manifold as Full Race has here...

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1229296)
o shit.............


RB >> FR if both have a lifetime warranty. i guess someone needs to dyno these bitches to compare.....

You've got budget modders and you've got modders that simply want the best, once and done. To each their own, as always.

Quote:

Originally Posted by IshiKage (Post 1229289)
RB s manifolds have a lifetime warranty and great quality. Ask all the guys who are receiving them

I'm not bashing RB, I'm just supporting Full Race because of their hard earned track record. After all, it's that track record and the amount of satisfied customers over the years that REALLY makes gives their warranty it's value.

I haven't seen enough RB products go through the paces to say, but the best warrantied parts are those that never have to use it...

I've had plenty of warrantied parts break and need replacement over the years building cars and all the headaches of removal, reinstallation, and downtime could've been easily and GLADLY avoided had I chose to pay the premium for a superior part initially.

IshiKage 01-26-2012 04:28 PM

I didnt say you were. Just correcting your statement for for consumers informing them that theres a LifeTime Warranty on the RaceBuilt Manifold and the Materials used are High Quality. thats it.

This isnt RB vs FR.

superskaterxes 01-26-2012 04:28 PM

if this manifold is rated at "below 500whp", then a manifold is a manifold. people have made the same power on the DNP/SS mani's and they dont have near the intense engineering FR prob put into this mani.

i agree its quality and looks like it was very well designed. but regardless of all that its just not worth 900 bucks.

Alpha 01-26-2012 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1229401)
if this manifold is rated at "below 500whp", then a manifold is a manifold. people have made the same power on the DNP/SS mani's and they dont have near the intense engineering FR prob put into this mani.

i agree its quality and looks like it was very well designed. but regardless of all that its just not worth 900 bucks.

Maybe not TO YOU. Other people Do and WILL pay for quality/reliability now that it's become available.

Edge is here promoting their newly available product. You've stated your opinion... Now move on.


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