Got Bilstein? These B14 Coilovers are Sick!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

It helps if you've seen them in person to truly be able to appreciate them, but we are very impressed with the quality and performance that Bilstein wraps up in this awesome little package for the Mazdaspeed 3. But then they are Bilsteins so we expect nothing less than perfection!



The B14's are a step down from the B16's which are the top of the line offering from Bilstein. The B14's offer ride height adjustment to go along with specifically paired dampers and springs to make for an excellent road and track combo.



They are surface coated for corrosion resistance for a long hassle free life, and they have also TUV certified which is the highest standard by which German made suspension components are tested.



Get them now on our website by following the link below.


Bilstein B14 Coilover Kit Mazdaspeed 3 2007-2013 - $1069.10

Let me know if you have any questions!

[Ezekiel81923]

Spring rates?

[JMONTI]

looking for a DD not to track this will work?

[LatinKraze]

Ooo fuck, do want. Already running Bilstein B8 and Cobb springs tho.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Ezekiel81923 Spring rates?

I can't find the rates so I'm gonna call and find out. I'll post up when I get a response from them on this.

Originally Posted by JMONTI looking for a DD not to track this will work?

These will be good for a daily driver. They are comparable to the H&R coilovers which make for great street/mild track use coilovers.

EDIT:

No springs rates listed, but this is from Bilstein's site.

Descriptor: Front Lowered Height: 10-25mm, up to 1100kg Axle Load
Descriptor: Rear Lowered Height: 5-25mm, up to 1090kg Axle Load

[CodeMan]

I have these on my Pu, bought from Edge actually. Front spring should be a linear main spring and tender spring. Main spring at 379.62 lbs and tender at 114 lbs. Rears are a progressive at 377.34 lbs. These are great for the street IMO. They're not going to "stance" you though if you're into such things.

[JMONTI]

Originally Posted by CodeMan I have these on my Pu, bought from Edge actually. Front spring should be a linear main spring and tender spring. Main spring at 379.62 lbs and tender at 114 lbs. Rears are a progressive at 377.34 lbs. These are great for the street IMO. They're not going to "stance" you though if you're into such things.

how's the handling and installation? Any pics?

[himurax13]

Do the rear spring perches mount on the bottom or the top?

[CodeMan]

Installation is straightforward. Car handles well for me, it's fairly neutral. There was already a RSB on the car and the coils didn't change much in terms of balance, which is a good thing IMO. There's a pic on here somewhere, not on the phone I'm on now.

Rear perches mount on the top.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by CodeMan Rear perches mount on the top.

So are they as useless as the ones for the HR coliover kit?

[mWindu]

Originally Posted by himurax13 So are they as useless as the ones for the HR coliover kit?

I have the H&R's. It did shock me that they designed the spring perch to mount on the bottom inside the lower arm. But when it actually came time to adjust it it was fairly easy. Just pull out the bolt holding in the arm in and it loosens it up enough to remove the spring and perch. Make adjustment and slap it back in.

Granted it *should* be easier to do than that but in reality its not that bad.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by mWindu I have the H&R's. It did shock me that they designed the spring perch to mount on the bottom inside the lower arm. But when it actually came time to adjust it it was fairly easy. Just pull out the bolt holding in the arm in and it loosens it up enough to remove the spring and perch. Make adjustment and slap it back in. Granted it *should* be easier to do than that but in reality its not that bad.

Dropping the bolt is easy but time consuming, putting it back in, not so much. You don't need to remove the end links? In any event that is a pain in the dick just to make a quick adjustment and if the Bilsteins are the same way that is fucking retarded.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[mWindu]

Originally Posted by himurax13 Dropping the bolt is easy but time consuming, putting it back in, not so much. You don't need to remove the end links? In any event that is a pain in the dick just to make a quick adjustment and if the Bilsteins are the same way that is fucking retarded. Sent from Stockish Pu

The endlinks is a good point. When I adjusted mine my sway bar was already out (I can't remember why) and I just remember it being easier to do than it looked. Like I said before, more complicated than it should be, but not too bad realistically.

[mWindu]

I would have preferred it to be a different way for sure. But I also enjoy working on my car a lot. Making small adjustments here and there don't really bother me all that much. Even if they are time consuming.

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by mWindu I would have preferred it to be a different way for sure. But I also enjoy working on my car a lot. Making small adjustments here and there don't really bother me all that much. Even if they are time consuming.

Some of us would rather drive the car. But you have to admit, that is the worst way to do rear height adjustment short of adding spacers/shims.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[mWindu]

It is the worst way lol. But what other ways are there? Do other kits have the perch on the top of the spring?

[himurax13]

BC does it from the top and KW does it from the bottom. Neither requires disassembly for adjustment ...

Sent from Stockish Pu

[jeffdevo]

Need more reviews! on the fence about ordering these!

[Jap11g]

Also on the fence between these, ksport and SonicTuning...

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[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by Jap11g Also on the fence between these, ksport and SonicTuning... Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

You just compared Bilstein TUV approved coilovers with Ksport/SonicTuning made-in-china stuff??

[Jap11g]

Originally Posted by jrotaryb You just compared Bilstein TUV approved coilovers with Ksport/SonicTuning made-in-china stuff??

Hell idk what's made where! Lol

I just don't want something that's gonna ride like shit on the street. I need something comfortable lol

Car will not be tracked.

Tapa Tapa Tapa

[himurax13]

Originally Posted by Jap11g Hell idk what's made where! Lol I just don't want something that's gonna ride like shit on the street. I need something comfortable lol Car will not be tracked. Tapa Tapa Tapa

Coilovers are not for you then.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[Jap11g]

Originally Posted by himurax13 Coilovers are not for you then. Sent from Stockish Pu

Well there's my confusion then lol because I read that sonic tuning was similar in ride comfort to stock. Are Bilstein rough rides?

Tapa Tapa Tapa

[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by himurax13 Coilovers are not for you then. Sent from Stockish Pu

Like much with this hobby, there are too many contributing factors to make such blanket statements IMHO. There is a difference between a firm ride and an uncomfortably stiff ride...

I'd take a budget coilover from a real suspension company like KW/H&R/Bilstein who can produce/match springs and dampers rather than the cookie-cutter china stuff that is really made to just hold together, slam your car and let you make adjustments.

[himurax13]

I wish I could just buy the fronts.

Sent from Stockish Pu

[Jap11g]

Well, for the price these are barely more expensive than the competition I was considering.....

Do these come with front camber plates?

Tapa Tapa Tapa

[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by Jap11g Well, for the price these are barely more expensive than the competition I was considering..... Do these come with front camber plates? Tapa Tapa Tapa

At that price? No way - you re-use your stock top mounts and you'd be well advised to buy new ones. Besides, if you're concerned about comfort, the stop top mounts will be more comfortable than say a metal camber plate.

[Jap11g]

Knew it was too good to be true lol just figured id need aftermarket camber plates to avoid running crazy camber on a drop

Tapa Tapa Tapa

[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by Jap11g Knew it was too good to be true lol just figured id need aftermarket camber plates to avoid running crazy camber on a drop Tapa Tapa Tapa

Nope - do some more research - these coilovers won't slam you and will only work correctly in their limited recommended lowering range. They will drop you and they will look good but it's a functional street suspension and form follows function on this set.

The negative camber you'll end up with up front (due to lowering) is fine and actually desirable. You will want camber adjusters for the rear for sure.

Once you choose a set of coilovers and get them installed, get an alignment, zero toe and less negative camber in the rear compared to front will get you a decent street alignment IMHO for a fwd car. Something like -1.5 degrees up front and -1.0 in rear for the street.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by Jap11g Hell idk what's made where! Lol I just don't want something that's gonna ride like shit on the street. I need something comfortable lol Car will not be tracked. Tapa Tapa Tapa

These will have excellent ride compared to BC/Ksport/ whatever basic coilovers. I'm not saying those are bad, but the Germans know what they are doing when building suspension.

Originally Posted by Jap11g Well, for the price these are barely more expensive than the competition I was considering..... Do these come with front camber plates? Tapa Tapa Tapa

These do not come with the camber plates so you will need to reuse the factory top hats. Like Jrotaryb said, the camber in the front will be fine but the camber in the rear will need to be pushed back out a bit.

As with pretty much everything, you get what you pay for. Higher end suspension kits come with less compromises than the entry level kits. We have Ksport Kontrol Pro's on our shop Speed 3 and they work great! They lower the car and we can adjust them and they are not too harsh. We put KW V3 coilovers on our shop Focus ST and my mind was absolutely blown by how well they performed compared to how well they ride. I had never experienced a high dollar suspension kit before first hand. We can barely tell the difference from stock in comfort and the car just goes around a corner like it is on rails. It really is impressive how much more performance you get out of the higher end suspension systems.

[jrotaryb]

Originally Posted by EdgeAutosport.com These will have excellent ride compared to BC/Ksport/ whatever basic coilovers. I'm not saying those are bad, but the Germans know what they are doing when building suspension. These do not come with the camber plates so you will need to reuse the factory top hats. Like Jrotaryb said, the camber in the front will be fine but the camber in the rear will need to be pushed back out a bit. As with pretty much everything, you get what you pay for. Higher end suspension kits come with less compromises than the entry level kits. We have Ksport Kontrol Pro's on our shop Speed 3 and they work great! They lower the car and we can adjust them and they are not too harsh. We put KW V3 coilovers on our shop Focus ST and my mind was absolutely blown by how well they performed compared to how well they ride. I had never experienced a high dollar suspension kit before first hand. We can barely tell the difference from stock in comfort and the car just goes around a corner like it is on rails. It really is impressive how much more performance you get out of the higher end suspension systems.

PLUS, there is Bilstein's warranty AND their advance replacement program where should you need service, they will send a new damper unit out to you (charged to your cc) and let you return the old one in the box from the new one. If under warranty or defect, they will refund you once the damaged piece is received.

For those of us without beater cars, no down time for service is HUGE in my book...even if I never need to use it.

[Mizzle]

Is a stiffer rear setup possible? I still stand by the thought that we could forgo a RSB altogether and just have stiffer springs for both corner & straight-line handling with no more jouncing over highway bumps.

[himurax13]

Corksport Camber plates and camber arms will run you another $500 and you have to drill out the strut towers to fully utilize the camber adjustments.

Don't forget new strut bearings so that will bring up the price another $100 or so. I have the B8's and I am running all of that stuff with them. Then you need the rear sway bar and end links.

Coilovers usually need adjustable front end links so that you can adjust the preload on the front sway bar.

Then you could get different springs and perches.

Of course you should get a corner balance afterwards with the 4 wheel alignment to get the full benefit. This shit gets pricey fast.

*EDIT*
When adjusting the front coilover, make sure that there is enough preload/tension on the front springs to keep the strut bearings and top mounts from binding. If you don't the strut bearings and or top mounts will break, quickly.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

We currently have one set in stock and ready to ship. These are definitely a killer deal for what you get.

[Design]

After running H&Rs, I don't feel the adjustment perch is a huge issue in the rear. They are easy to pull once the car is in the air and amount to 5-10 minutes of extra work.

Typically, the average user will adjust these a couple times over the life of the coils. And knowing an alignment generally follows any height change, it's going to be an "effort" regardless.

I'll also add that Bilstein, H&R and KW technically use a two-step linear spring in the rear. The bottom 3-4 coils should be fully compressed at static height.

[EdgeAutosport.com]

These coilovers are in stock! We have the B16's as well!

The B14's are a great bang for the buck coilover option!

[tegxsi]

I got my B14's not too long ago...
I haven't installed them yet but I plan on taking pics of the install

[EdgeAutosport.com]

Originally Posted by tegxsi I got my B14's not too long ago... I haven't installed them yet but I plan on taking pics of the install

Feel free to post your pics here along with your thoughts on the setup!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

B14 and B16 Coilovers are in stock and ready to ship!

[EdgeAutosport.com]

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