JgamB's build it before you blow it thread

[JgamB]

I've tried to be proactive with my mods and careful with my mod path, and so far so good.

Selling the K04 while it was still healthy was a nice refund on my BNR S3. Now I hope to continue the trend with my still strong OEM engine, taking advantage of seasonal prices, and also aware that the 25.5psi and 7.2K RPM I run the car at isn't exactly lending itself to tremendous longevity.

And I just want more power.

Ebtec in Marietta, GA will be performing the build - Manley Platinums, Manley H-beams, L19s, and possibly head work. I have also specified I want the balance shaft retained - at least that way when you call me a vagina, I'll be able to hear you. I've heard great things about Ebtec / Chris Murphy, and being ~3.5hrs away means I can eliminate shipping costs.

I've also opted for an ACT 6-puck / street lite combo. I waffled over SB and ACT, and found the jury to still be out on both, but with the more recently installed ACTs (as of ~2 years) to be faring much better than the old friction disks with 5-10K mile horror stories.

The turbo and manifold(s) are still up in the air, but those will get sorted soon. Regardless of potential, I plan to aim for ~500whp/420wtq and meth alt fueling only. Bowl work might seem like overkill for the modest goal, but I'd rather free up some peak power and perhaps use a more responsive turbo to get there.

Other stuff includes Freektune 3.5" intake with multiple couplings - one for the S3 for now and one for what is likely to come later, CS / Tokay injector seals, some tweaks to my meth setup, and other stuff I might show you later.

The journey starts in the morning.

[dale_gribble]

Badass dude. Godspeed. Is your car down for a while or is this a 2nd block you sourced?

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by dale_gribble Badass dude. Godspeed. Is your car down for a while or is this a 2nd block you sourced?

This is a bent rod long block I picked up from @ms6mil; several months back. My car is still running like a top. I'm hoping down time is limited to a weekend swap.

[sheston]

Looks like an excellent journey to take :-)

[865ms3]

subbed and good luck. let me know when you plan the swap. sounds like a good excuse to come see you AL guys!

[MazdaBoy2.3]

Sounds slow. I'll take you with my focus.

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by MazdaBoy2.3 Sounds slow. I'll take you with my focus.

Just wait until I tell all the kids there is no Christmas this year because you killed Rudolph.

[nindoja]

Where's my tag fag?

Excited to see where this goes. You should post up your latest engine bay shot.

[MazdaBoy2.3]

Originally Posted by JgamB Just wait until I tell all the kids there is no Christmas this year because you killed Rudolph.

We may be in luck. I think it was actually a zombie baby and not Rudolph.

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by nindoja Where's my tag fag? Excited to see where this goes. You should post up your latest engine bay shot.

Like you need a tag when you're going to be doing half of the work.



I'm expecting to get this done over a weekend in middle of January - we'll see how the schedules all work out.

[JgamB]

A little bowl work porn has surfaced, more to follow.

[MD1032]

What valves did you end up going with?

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[Gr8Speed]

Originally Posted by MazdaBoy2.3 We may be in luck. I think it was actually a zombie baby and not Rudolph.

At least when I took one out, I made it into sausages and fed some NATORs.

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by MD1032 What valves did you end up going with? Sent from my A0001 using Tapatalk

Stock valve train - I don't intend to rev out past 7.5K and don't anticipate any float issues. The intent is medium sized / 500whp turbo and overkill on the intake mani / head for some smooth torque application and easy breathing peak flow, very linear for the sake of traction.

[MazdaBoy2.3]

Originally Posted by Gr8Speed At least when I took one out, I made it into sausages and fed some NATORs.

You ate a zombie baby?

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by JgamB Stock valve train - I don't intend to rev out past 7.5K and don't anticipate any float issues.

Stock valvetrain is good to 7,500? Any long terms testing?

[phate]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey Stock valvetrain is good to 7,500? Any long terms testing?

It's fine with stock valvetrain. We see 7000+ at nearly every autocross, and 7500 isn't uncommon (that's where my limiter is set). We've ridden the limiter at 7500 rpm for seconds at a time, no problems whatsoever.

When I do a refresh, I'll check spring rates of all the valve springs and replace any that are low or collapsed. It's been over 2 years, though, and haven't had a single issue.

[Code Monkey]

Originally Posted by phate It's fine with stock valvetrain.....

But that's 2nd gear, right? What about revving 4th-5th gear to 7,500 at a road course? At 7,000 rpms I max out 4th at about 111-113 mph, would love to rev a bit higher to get me to 120 mph in 4th.

[phate]

I don't see much difference, it's still 7500 rpm, you'll just be at a higher speed. Like I said, we've ridden the limiter at 7500 for seconds at a time without issue.

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by Code Monkey But that's 2nd gear, right? What about revving 4th-5th gear to 7,500 at a road course? At 7,000 rpms I max out 4th at about 111-113 mph, would love to rev a bit higher to get me to 120 mph in 4th.

What tire height? I run 235/40/18s and my current map is set for 7.2K RPM and good for 118 in the 1/4, maybe 119 before it actually cuts.

[Code Monkey]

Running 255/40/17's at the moment so 24.8"-25" diameter, a lil bit slower than stock.

[JgamB]

Some more pics from EBtec - looks like assembly time!

[865ms3]

Originally Posted by JgamB Some more pics from EBtec - looks like assembly time!

James can build an engine. You are in good hands. I miss getting the little updates.

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by 865ms3 James can build an engine. You are in good hands. I miss getting the little updates.

I have great faith in their skills, and they've gotten the stamp of approval from quite a few people I respect.

I'm sure @nindoja; won't mind hosting an install day once it's go time, and you'll be invited of course. I've only done 2 engine swaps, so extra experienced hands and eyes are welcome.

[865ms3]

Originally Posted by JgamB I have great faith in their skills, and they've gotten the stamp of approval from quite a few people I respect. I'm sure @nindoja; won't mind hosting an install day once it's go time, and you'll be invited of course. I've only done 2 engine swaps, so extra experienced hands and eyes are welcome.

As long as nothing crazy comes up I'm in.
Rough idea on a date?

Edit: also pro tip..bought one of these in hopes of it working. Worked out great. Use it to lock the flywheel while you torque the bolts. After using an impact and just saying Fuck it on my car.....I wanted to do the next guys right.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/151803370322...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by 865ms3 As long as nothing crazy comes up I'm in. Rough idea on a date? Edit: also pro tip..bought one of these in hopes of it working. Worked out great. Use it to lock the flywheel while you torque the bolts. After using an impact and just saying Fuck it on my car.....I wanted to do the next guys right. VW Beetle Type 1 Flywheel Lock Tool Empi 5003 Fits VW Bus Buggy Type 3 12V 6V | eBay

Ordered, thanks!

I'm looking at 2nd or 3rd Friday night and into Saturday in Jan, dependent on completion of the engine (and a date I have with a woman that I'm definitely not going to miss out on). Friday will be just locals disassembling, Saturday would be the Meat.

[865ms3]

I think we have a meet planned at Scott's in ky the 29th. Keep me posted though.

Good goal for a weekend swap is have all out before bed Friday night lol. Get it back in and be doing break in mid day Sat.

Highly suggest pulling the front clip.

[JgamB]

"Early this week" for completion. Meanwhile I've still been flogging the piss out of my car, and she's still producing some great power.

Turbo plans / power goals have changed - and 2 x 1K nozzles instead of 1.

[MazdaBoy2.3]

All the nozzles!!!!!!

[865ms3]

Originally Posted by JgamB "Early this week" for completion. Meanwhile I've still been flogging the piss out of my car, and she's still producing some great power. Turbo plans / power goals have changed - and 2 x 1K nozzles instead of 1.

This always happens........

What now?

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by 865ms3 This always happens........ What now?

Naughty secrets.

[sheston]

So now you've been set up to test some vendor parts.....

[JgamB]

Needed some new buckets for proper valve lash, but she's just about done. Yes, that's my balance shaft staring at you. I'm really trying to keep this a DD friendly racecar.



I also picked up a Boost Junkyz EWG mani, ordered the HTP meth tank, and some more various stuff to make the go faster project a bit tidier.

[HawkeyeGeoff]

Get the Xona Rotor and win man. Be Mazdaspeed #2 to run it!

[JgamB]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeGeoff Get the Xona Rotor and win man.

Them's some pricey snails! 61lb does sound like a reasonable level of boost - I'm not hunting for enormous power. (Yet. I have to say yet. )

[JgamB]

The rest of the gang is assembled - Just lacking a couple of crucial elements that are camera shy. And quality Murica beer.

[HawkeyeGeoff]

Originally Posted by JgamB The rest of the gang is assembled - Just lacking a couple of crucial elements that are camera shy. And quality Murica beer.

NATTTTTTY!!!!

Dude. I paid 1790 shipped for mine. With a tial hotside. They are still doing the name your price thing. They literally knocked 600 off of my turblowwww. Thing will make damn close to what the 35R made (63 lb/min vs 61 lb/min) they are just beast turbos man.

I'm on the Atwater Cherry Stout ATM. Ganna have to have a natty @ ENM if you're coming out there

[nindoja]

Originally Posted by HawkeyeGeoff NATTTTTTY!!!! Dude. I paid 1790 shipped for mine. With a tial hotside. They are still doing the name your price thing. They literally knocked 600 off of my turblowwww. Thing will make damn close to what the 35R made (63 lb/min vs 61 lb/min) they are just beast turbos man. I'm on the Atwater Cherry Stout ATM. Ganna have to have a natty @ ENM if you're coming out there

Not that I need or want a new turbo right now, but are you going to make a thread when you install and tune it?

@JgamB; will be at ENM and he'll gladly share his piss beer with you.

[WetzMS3]

Originally Posted by JgamB The rest of the gang is assembled - Just lacking a couple of crucial elements that are camera shy. And quality Murica beer.

Oh, now your cock is camera shy?!?!

[HawkeyeGeoff]

Originally Posted by nindoja Not that I need or want a new turbo right now, but are you going to make a thread when you install and tune it? @JgamB; will be at ENM and he'll gladly share his piss beer with you.

Yes. I will be making a thread about the whole ordeal as well as what I get out of it. I should have no problem maxing the thing out with the type of fueling I have, so we should be able to see what this little big bastard can really do.