Putin's 700+hp build

[MS3XY]

@Putin 2.3T;
I absolutely love the purple turbo, good choice!

[aaronc7]

[Putin 2.3T]

Surely he shall and he has! I have an update... the build is getting shut down. I'm moving on with another project that has had my attention for a while now.







































































































































































































I finally finished the fuel setup. I went with an ATL Well Cell in the 12 gallon variety for the rear with a Radium Engineering Fuel Cell Surge Tank system. I will be using three AEM 50-1200 E85 pumps. One for a feed for the surge, and two to feed the PI. Each one of these fuel pumps is good for around 700-750hp. Pictures will be coming up as soon as I have it arrive. For the moment the fuel cell mounts will not be very.. special. Budget cuts and time constraints have forced me to move with using tow-straps, haha! Ghetto as it may be, it WILL hold. I assure you of that. When I get a little more money I will go with something a little more fancy.
- Along with this comes the change to the FPR setup. All the components remain, but I've decided to go returnless to keep the system a little simpler. By returnless I mean that the FPR will be mounted at the rear with the fuel cell. A singular -8an line will feed the fuel injectors. No fuel will return from the fuel rail. I will have a gauge in the back with the FPR and a digital gauge up front to ensure that the pressures are good. This also means the FPR will be run static. With the Bosch 2200cc injectors @ 43.5psi, they are MORE then enough to feed not only the PI but also the entire motor safely to 700+hp.

I've also decided to go with an Odyssey PC680 battery and relocating the battery into the front fender wheel well. No real specific reason for that other then to allow the 4.5" intake that is being fabricated by (censored due to outside non-vendor) to have some room to breathe. On top of that I'll be using the current battery tray (JBR) to mount my BWR VTA Oil-Catch can. Should look pretty bitching once I get everything set up and ready.

Pictures coming soooooon..

[Easter Bunny]

You probably know this but you need to look at net fuel pressure. Ie if boost is 30 and fuel pressure is 45 you only have a differential of 15 psi across the injector.

[Putin 2.3T]

I did think about it briefly, but must have passed it off for another more pressing issue. Not a hard fix, just means I've either gotta run a 3an line under my car to the manifold, or move the FPR up front and run a 6an line under the car for a return. Both are do'able. I originally decided on static because the system would be turning on only at WOT. Rising-rate is best when the fuel system needs to adjust between vacuum-boost at whatever load. But now that I think about it, even if I were to increase the fuel pressure to overcome the added boost pressure, it would still leave my fuel setup in a level of unpredictability that I want to avoid. Particularly when coming in to boost where it might see 60+psi of fuel but only 5-10psi of boost. At that point it would be rich as high hell up until when the boost builds. Sure that additional fuel could be tuned out via the DI injectors, but why make it harder on my tuner? Right? Haha!

[865ms3]

But then my issue...all these horsepowers but no traction.

What's your plan there? I'm getting tires asap.

[Putin 2.3T]

Scroll back a ways in the thread, I think I have some M&H's pictured. Those should solve my problems. For D/D I'm planning to run 255-wide R888s.

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T I finally finished the fuel setup. I went with an ATL Well Cell in the 12 gallon variety for the rear with a Radium Engineering Fuel Cell Surge Tank system. I will be using three AEM 50-1200 E85 pumps. One for a feed for the surge, and two to feed the PI. Each one of these fuel pumps is good for around 700-750hp. Pictures will be coming up as soon as I have it arrive. For the moment the fuel cell mounts will not be very.. special. Budget cuts and time constraints have forced me to move with using tow-straps, haha! Ghetto as it may be, it WILL hold. I assure you of that. When I get a little more money I will go with something a little more fancy. - Along with this comes the change to the FPR setup. All the components remain, but I've decided to go returnless to keep the system a little simpler. By returnless I mean that the FPR will be mounted at the rear with the fuel cell. A singular -8an line will feed the fuel injectors. No fuel will return from the fuel rail. I will have a gauge in the back with the FPR and a digital gauge up front to ensure that the pressures are good. This also means the FPR will be run static. With the Bosch 2200cc injectors @ 43.5psi, they are MORE then enough to feed not only the PI but also the entire motor safely to 700+hp. I've also decided to go with an Odyssey PC680 battery and relocating the battery into the front fender wheel well. No real specific reason for that other then to allow the 4.5" intake that is being fabricated by (censored due to outside non-vendor) to have some room to breathe. On top of that I'll be using the current battery tray (JBR) to mount my BWR VTA Oil-Catch can. Should look pretty bitching once I get everything set up and ready. Pictures coming soooooon..

So your 12 gal cel is going to be feeding both DI and PI injectors then correct? Like you're replacing you stock tank with this fuel cell, mounted in the spare tire well?

[Putin 2.3T]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 So your 12 gal cel is going to be feeding both DI and PI injectors then correct? Like you're replacing you stock tank with this fuel cell, mounted in the spare tire well?

That is the end goal. Because of time, it will just be feeding PI for now.

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T That is the end goal. Because of time, it will just be feeding PI for now.

Shouldn't require much more time to start out that way and won't cost more either.

Mount your regulator in the hatch, near the fuel cell. Then, run -8 from cell to one port on the reg, -6 from 2nd port on reg back to the cell as your return line, then run a vac line and one, -8 line to the surge, then from the surge to the passenger side of your secondary rail, then -8 to your HPFP.

This will keep it as a return setup, only makes you have to run one line to the front of the car, and allows you to run the proper 1:1 boost ref on the regulator.

The only thing you'll have to figure out either way is if you want your pumps to be all fancy and wired in with relays and everything or if you just wanna put them on switches to start. If you decide on the switched option to start, I'd put your primary (to surge tank) and one secondary on a keyed 12v, which will turn on and run under normal driving, then put your other secondary on a hobbs switch to turn on once you're under some boost.

Again, shouldn't take any more time or money to do it all this way and it'll be much better than running two very large fuel tanks, a dead head rail, and a static regulator.

[Putin 2.3T]

Originally Posted by Realgib3 Shouldn't require much more time to start out that way and won't cost more either. Mount your regulator in the hatch, near the fuel cell. Then, run -8 from cell to one port on the reg, -6 from 2nd port on reg back to the cell as your return line, then run a vac line and one, -8 line to the surge, then from the surge to the passenger side of your secondary rail, then -8 to your HPFP. This will keep it as a return setup, only makes you have to run one line to the front of the car, and allows you to run the proper 1:1 boost ref on the regulator. The only thing you'll have to figure out either way is if you want your pumps to be all fancy and wired in with relays and everything or if you just wanna put them on switches to start. If you decide on the switched option to start, I'd put your primary (to surge tank) and one secondary on a keyed 12v, which will turn on and run under normal driving, then put your other secondary on a hobbs switch to turn on once you're under some boost. Again, shouldn't take any more time or money to do it all this way and it'll be much better than running two very large fuel tanks, a dead head rail, and a static regulator.

Sounds so easy! Lol! My only issue would be finding a way to attach a -8an line to the low-pressure fuel line on the HPFP. Another issue is that I plan to run 100% M5 in the fuel cell. I don't know how well the HPFP internals will like that stuff. I was going to experiment after the motor was in and running.

[Realgib3]

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T Sounds so easy! Lol! My only issue would be finding a way to attach a -8an line to the low-pressure fuel line on the HPFP. Another issue is that I plan to run 100% M5 in the fuel cell. I don't know how well the HPFP internals will like that stuff. I was going to experiment after the motor was in and running.

Well yeah if you're planning on running meth to the secondaries then yeah you'll always have to have both tanks.

As for the hpfp, you just get a fuel line to -8 adapter fitting. This is exactly how I've run my systems in the past.

[Putin 2.3T]

The only question I have in my mind right now is... why didn't I buy this sooner? Radium Engineering for the freakin' win!

[Easter Bunny]

Pictar is broken.

[Putin 2.3T]

Fixed, I hope.

[England15j]

Fancy

[ItsNox]

Its beautiful!

[865ms3]

when is this going to be done??? dammmmnnnnn

can we post cats yet??

i like seeing your progress on this crazy build. keep it up.

[Putin 2.3T]

Originally Posted by 865ms3 when is this going to be done??? dammmmnnnnn can we post cats yet?? i like seeing your progress on this crazy build. keep it up.

I don't know man. Compared to a lot of the other crazy builds on here, I'd say mine is pretty mild.

[WetzMS3]

Quit playing around and get that dyno queen rolling, Russian!

[England15j]

I demand a update to your madness

[Putin 2.3T]

Originally Posted by England15j I demand a update to your madness

[speed3 britz]

So Uh... why the part out...?

[WetzMS3]

@Putin 2.3T; going for his 1,000hp goal:

[InkedInspector]

Can't believe this project got aborted. Third trimester style.

[pirate steve]

Originally Posted by speed3 britz So Uh... why the part out...?

Putin's got to pay for that military aid he's giving to Syria somehow.

[Putin 2.3T]

The ruble has tanked. I'm not in a very stable situation financially, so had to think smart. The Syrians are cheap bastards. I gave them top of the line weapons and they pay me with cash and herd animals. What use do I have for herd animals? The goats look very used.

[skoski17]

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T The ruble has tanked. I'm not in a very stable situation financially, so had to think smart. The Syrians are cheap bastards. I gave them top of the line weapons and they pay me with cash and herd animals. What use do I have for herd animals? The goats look very used.

It's those muslims! Get rid of them and your goats will not be abused anymore

[MSP611]

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T The ruble has tanked. I'm not in a very stable situation financially, so had to think smart. The Syrians are cheap bastards. I gave them top of the line weapons and they pay me with cash and herd animals. What use do I have for herd animals? The goats look very used.

what happened @Putin 2.3T; ???

[impossible]

Sucks to see things didn't pan out due to financial constraints.. This was gonna be a godly build :/

[bimbybugz]

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T That is the end goal. Because of time, it will just be feeding PI for now.

How did you route your hoses from your fuel cell? I have mine like this but having a hard time figuring it out lol.

[Thor Hammer]

Originally Posted by bimbybugz How did you route your hoses from your fuel cell? I have mine like this but having a hard time figuring it out lol.

Quoting these necro posts most likely....99% chance.....will go un-noticed by the OP. Good luck!

[aaronc7]

Originally Posted by aaronc7

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