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Steve@VersaTune 12-02-2014 06:23 AM

Official VersaTuner Feature Request Thread
 
Please post your feature requests here. If your request is platform specific, please indicate what platform you are referring to. I will aggregate the requests up to this first post.


Code:

Platform        Request
All            High speed logging/greater number of concurrent PIDs
All            Hotkeys in Tune Editor for interpolation, write value, multiply, add, and subtract.
MS3/MS6        Rolling MegaSpool
MS3/MS6        Make axes scalable to 8500 or 9000 RPM
MS3/MS6        Timing retard traction control
All            4 Bar MAP Logging PID

Made sticky.

phate 12-02-2014 10:20 AM

Steve, are there tables related to dbw response and/or decay in relation to APP position/rate of change? I'm not sure what they would actually be called, but something related to the hysteresis between APP input and actual throttle movement. When I moved to the MS6 from my MS3, it it seemed like there was a big difference in response even though they were tuned similarly, and how the revs hang seems different also. [Hopefully that makes sense.]

Steve@VersaTune 12-02-2014 01:12 PM

Based on what I have seen, the APP - DBW smoothing is hard coded and not a table. Based on the code, MS6 should be more responsive than MS3. Is that your experience?

phate 12-02-2014 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2764337)
Based on what I have seen, the APP - DBW smoothing is hard coded and not a table. Based on the code, MS6 should be more responsive than MS3. Is that your experience?

Yep. Sometimes it's difficult to pinpoint exactly why they feel so different because of the differences in drivetrain and weight, but I notice the biggest difference in throttle close response. The MS6 can be pretty abrupt.

Deldran 12-02-2014 02:40 PM

I have a couple Features requests.

1.) Keyboard shortcut keys in tune editor.
a.) h to horizontally interpolate
b.) v to vertically interpolate
c.) e to edit selected cells. As in if you have a group of cells selected you can just click e to write the same value into all of them
d.) m to multiply selected cells by whatever number you input.

Also where would you like bugs reported. in this thread or a separate one. Hope we are not overwhelming you ;)

Enki 12-03-2014 12:07 PM

Ethanol content % (table lookup to FSG/Scalar, see cheat sheets) with advanced setting for manual configuration of FSG and scalar would be awesome.

Enki 12-07-2014 05:55 PM

Keyboard shortcut on Dashboard view for logging: Space bar to start/stop recording.

Is there any way to improve the PID rate for logging?

Deldran 12-07-2014 06:00 PM

Enki, you can already use space bar to start and stop recording

Enki 12-07-2014 06:04 PM

Really? Didn't seem to work for me.

Steve@VersaTune 12-07-2014 06:16 PM

Enter key toggles logging on/off too.

The pane with the active PIDs and the log data needs to be the focused pane for spacebar and enter to work. Click anywhere in the logging pane to make it the focused pane. I think by default, the master PID list is the active pane.

The PID rate is limited by the ECU. We may add high speed logging in the future. It's on the to-do list.

Deldran 12-07-2014 06:21 PM

Steve I'm note sure if the limitation is only ECU. the AP had much more resolution. I am not sure how it's resolution on the 6 was. Maybe @phate; can chime in on the difference between logging resolution for the 6.

I will say it really needs to be higher, I would but that toward the top of the list personally

Enki 12-07-2014 06:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2768289)
Enter key toggles logging on/off too.

The pane with the active PIDs and the log data needs to be the focused pane for spacebar and enter to work. Click anywhere in the logging pane to make it the focused pane. I think by default, the master PID list is the active pane.

The PID rate is limited by the ECU. We may add high speed logging in the future. It's on the to-do list.

Thanks, I'll give this a shot next time I'm out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 2768292)
Steve I'm note sure if the limitation is only ECU. the AP had much more resolution. I am not sure how it's resolution on the 6 was. Maybe @phate; can chime in on the difference between logging resolution for the 6.

I will say it really needs to be higher, I would but that toward the top of the list personally

I agree, the difference between my AP logs and my VT logs is...well, massive. See attached.


Edit: For the TLDR inclined:
Versatune:
11 PIDs
22.018 seconds
103 rows
4.677 rows per second

Accessport:
17 PIDs
12.336 seconds
104 rows
8.430 rows per second @ +54% PIDs per row

Steve@VersaTune 12-07-2014 06:54 PM

High speed logging with AP is implemented with custom code. The stock logging is limited by the ECU. It's on our list. Please see the first post.

phate 12-07-2014 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deldran (Post 2768292)
Steve I'm note sure if the limitation is only ECU. the AP had much more resolution. I am not sure how it's resolution on the 6 was. Maybe @phate; can chime in on the difference between logging resolution for the 6.

I will say it really needs to be higher, I would but that toward the top of the list personally

VT's a little bit slower, but not by much. Between 6 and 7 rows per second in VT, compared to the AP's ~8 rows per second. [This is in reference to the MS6 and my AP V2B.]

Edit: Remove all the logging parameters you don't really need to increase resolution.

Putin 2.3T 12-07-2014 08:20 PM

Rolling anti-lag. Now.

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Putin 2.3T (Post 2768384)
Rolling anti-lag. Now.

Please elaborate.

Enki 12-08-2014 12:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2768469)
Please elaborate.

IF brake = depressed
AND Accel Pedal Position > 90% (configurable)
ENABLE Launch Control

...If that makes sense.

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 12:35 AM

OK. Sort of like Launch Control and NLS, but with the brake pedal in stead of the clutch pedal?

Enki 12-08-2014 12:52 AM

Basically brake boosting without the brake; just some sort of trigger. If a slight touch on the clutch can be used, that might work as well.

I'm not entirely sure how it can be done, and that was just an example.

If you need a test subject for this, I'm game.

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 01:04 AM

Define the conditions under which you want retard applied.

APP > 98%
Brake = on

Any others?


You could probably use NLS to accomplish this. The clutch pedal sensor triggers long before the clutch disengages. I often get hit by this with my sloppy clutch work when I mash the gas before I finish letting the clutch out.

Enki 12-08-2014 01:10 AM

How should I test this? Set NLS to MegaSpool = True + RPM = 3000?

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 01:21 AM

You can probably leave the NLS limiter at whatever RPM you want to hit your next gear at.

I assume you're using this at lower RPMs where the turbo is not prone to rapid spooling. If the clutch is engaged, you won't hit the limiter in any hurry.

RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 12-08-2014 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2768483)
Define the conditions under which you want retard applied.

APP > 98%
Brake = on

Any others?


You could probably use NLS to accomplish this. The clutch pedal sensor triggers long before the clutch disengages. I often get hit by this with my sloppy clutch work when I mash the gas before I finish letting the clutch out.

Maybe it can starts by a button and app>98 (thats the way syvecs ecu works with rolling launch) and when you realesa the button the car just take off ...

Also it will be nice to have pid with injectors flow % and i think it is time to make the scalars up to 8500rpm...

Putin 2.3T 12-08-2014 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2768469)
Please elaborate.

Yummy!

Sounds wicked from the outside.

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 11:06 AM

OK. So the use case is racing from a roll. I get it.

Enki 12-08-2014 11:08 AM

I think he means how it works.
@Steve@VersaTune; is there a clutch position sensor thats fairly sensitive? I know the clutch has to be depressed fully for the car to start, but is there a way to have it see if its just barely depressed like when the cruise control kicks off to act as the trigger? That would probably be best, as I'm not sure how many people want to do antilag followed by a clutch dump.

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 11:10 AM

Data log the clutch pedal position with the key on and engine off and see where it triggers.

Enki 12-08-2014 11:21 AM

Will do. *Adds it to list*

phate 12-08-2014 12:49 PM

Steve, is there any way to implement functions based on the rate of change of certain parameters? As an example - rate of change of RPM could pull timing or BCS DC as it deviated from expected (a type of traction control, in other words).

Steve@VersaTune 12-08-2014 12:57 PM

That could be done. In fact that's how older MegaSquirt software implemented basic traction control.

Enki 12-08-2014 04:19 PM

Pull WOT load when HPFP pressure drops.

Engine saver v1.0

RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 12-09-2014 07:15 AM

one more request , add a log pid for the bosch 4 bar map sensor...

Steve@VersaTune 12-09-2014 07:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 (Post 2769516)
one more request , add a log pid for the bosch 4 bar map sensor...

What are the scaling and offset values?

RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 12-09-2014 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2769521)
What are the scaling and offset values?

I pm`ed you...

Enki 12-09-2014 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve@VersaTune (Post 2768727)
Data log the clutch pedal position with the key on and engine off and see where it triggers.

Feels like it's a binary on/off type of sensor and it hits on right as the clutch would be near disengagement...making it not ideal for rolling LC.

:(

RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 12-09-2014 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Enki (Post 2769622)
Feels like it's a binary on/off type of sensor and it hits on right as the clutch would be near disengagement...making it not ideal for rolling LC.

:(

I do not know if it is possible to use a button from the steering wheel...

Steve@VersaTune 12-09-2014 11:46 AM

If the button goes direct to the ECU, it should be possible.

Putin 2.3T 12-09-2014 11:51 AM

Well MoTEC and the ProEFI live both use the cruise control button/stock. But I don't know if that's possible with the MS3.

phate 12-09-2014 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RE-ACTIONENGSPEED3 (Post 2768494)
Also it will be nice to have pid with injectors flow % and i think it is time to make the scalars up to 8500rpm...

How high do you currently rev?

Enki 12-09-2014 11:58 AM

If it's going to be increased, might as well go to 10k.


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