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sonic tuning 07-17-2012 05:35 AM

GB: Sonic Tuning Coilovers!!!
 
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN REPLACED BY THE THREAD BELOW:


http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...lovers-137331/

p057 07-17-2012 08:21 AM

so no S3's left for an MS6?
let me know.

MonstaSpeed6 07-17-2012 08:24 AM

Do you guys have any information on the valving? How stiff is the shock? In other words is the shock so stiff that rebound nullifies compression?

sonic tuning 07-18-2012 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p057 (Post 1512630)
so no S3's left for an MS6?
let me know.

nope, If we see some good sales on the MS3's then we will def place another order as their seems to be a large demand for MS6 coils.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MonstaSpeed6 (Post 1512632)
Do you guys have any information on the valving? How stiff is the shock? In other words is the shock so stiff that rebound nullifies compression?

like we said in the OP, we will be doing a shock dyno (i know ive been saying this forever but things have just been crazy this spring) which should give you all of the information you need to compare rebound/compression ect.

superskaterxes 07-18-2012 06:59 AM

bump!

lets get this shit moving guys!!! im loving my set so far and have ZERO complaints

XLT_66 07-18-2012 07:18 AM

Price?

KusteLokal 07-18-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XLT_66 (Post 1514257)
Price?

It's in the OP, right now it would be $999 for a MS3 set but if more than 5 people order then you will get a $100 refund

maisonvi 07-18-2012 07:36 AM

I wish I had some money. These look great, and my stock suspension is out the door at 60K. Big fan of the warranty too

sonic tuning 07-20-2012 05:02 AM

bump!!!

im really trying to get these picts uploaded for you guys, hopefully by the weekend!

psychophyr 07-21-2012 06:15 PM

Put me on the list as another person who wants them for the MS6. You let me know as soon as you have a set available and the money will be sent. Also what is the lead time if you guys do end up ordering another set.

Thanks!

Shive 07-21-2012 10:45 PM

Finally got mine installed on the MS6. So far, VERY stoked. I took quite a few friends for a ride tonight, all of which are car guys, and they were all really impressed with the ride quality. Anyone on the fence about these should just jump on the GB, its well worth it. I'll post some pics tomorrow too.

Edit: And I'm glad I really like these, because I never want to change the suspension out on an MS6 ever again. Ever.

shadesofgray19 07-22-2012 01:26 PM

Too bad they don't have anymore ms6 co's and don't know if they will get more.

radbrad 07-22-2012 02:19 PM

I get my check at 6 tonight. If its decient I think I will go for a set of S3's for the gen1 ms3. :standby:

Shive 07-22-2012 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadesofgray19 (Post 1521450)
Too bad they don't have anymore ms6 co's and don't know if they will get more.

With the amount of interest, I couldn't imagine that they wouldn't order more.

Quote:

Originally Posted by radbrad (Post 1521499)
I get my check at 6 tonight. If its decient I think I will go for a set of S3's for the gen1 ms3. :standby:

DO IT!

Boro 07-24-2012 12:25 AM

Another ms6 owner wanting a set of these badass coilovers. C'mon you speed3 owners, help your brothers and sisters out and buy up the stock so they order a new batch. :violin:

dpolseno41 07-24-2012 07:13 AM

So how many sets away from earning the discount?

psychophyr 07-24-2012 07:13 AM

^ looks like they should have bought more MS6 coils than MS3s, haha

superskaterxes 07-24-2012 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpolseno41 (Post 1524231)
So how many sets away from earning the discount?

3 sets


someone might be ordering today but dont hesitate if your on the fence, i can pretty much guarantee you these will make the discount price pretty soon.


If everyone just waits for the discount to come in then it will never happen haha

dpolseno41 07-24-2012 07:17 AM

FINE. I'll cave.

superskaterxes 07-24-2012 07:19 AM

How many people would be willing to put half down for the MS6 sets if we ordered more? It would be a 6-8 week lead time because they would need to be assembled and shipped from the factory in taiwan.

i can ask Wei if he would do this but it would have to be a minimum of ~5 sets just for the MS6. We could also do the GB discount price for those MS6's who would be willing to participate in this mini-GB.

Im not even sure if this is possible or if Wei would be willing to do this but i figured its worth a shot if theres as much MS6 interest as it seems.

shadesofgray19 07-24-2012 09:27 AM

That is wishful thinking. I wouldn't even think this forum would accept pay now and receive way later, 2 months. To many complications with "other" vendors in the past.

sonic tuning 07-24-2012 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadesofgray19 (Post 1524446)
That is wishful thinking. I wouldn't even think this forum would accept pay now and receive way later, 2 months. To many complications with "other" vendors in the past.

thats your opinion. clearly other members have received their coils and are already super happy with them. We're a local DC business that actually stocks everything we personally make. Every set of coils listed in the OP will/do ship the same day from OUR warehouse.


If you take a look at our intro thread you will see all of the good things people have to say about us.

Karmat 07-24-2012 11:52 AM

I understand pay now receive in 2 weeks but I don't really understand pay now and wait 6-8 weeks.

I personally would not feel comfortable doing that unless there is significant price incentives involved.

My view is either get the MS6 coils built and stocked or offer proper incentives and guarantees to entice people to shell out a few hundred and have to wait 2 months.

dpolseno41 07-24-2012 11:56 AM

If PG can get away with it with their piping kits, not sure why they couldnt...

superskaterxes 07-24-2012 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmat (Post 1524709)
I understand pay now receive in 2 weeks but I don't really understand pay now and wait 6-8 weeks.

I personally would not feel comfortable doing that unless there is significant price incentives involved.

My view is either get the MS6 coils built and stocked or offer proper incentives and guarantees to entice people to shell out a few hundred and have to wait 2 months.



it wouldent be paid in full, i just talked to wei and he said a $200 deposit would do.


this is a very small market (esp the MS6) so people who are posting now that want to buy a set of co's, most likely wont want to buy a set in 6-8 weeks when they come in so Sonic will be stuck with 5-10 sets for the MS6 that will just sit on the shelf.


if people really want a set for the MS6 they can leave a deposit and wait. These CO's arent just some random knock off cookie cutter set. they are all made to order and shipping by boat + customs + mail delays = 6-8 weeks.

sonic tuning 07-24-2012 12:45 PM

@dpolseno41 just ordered a set.

2 more before the discount!!!!!


thanks again dylan!

dpolseno41 07-24-2012 02:36 PM

No problem! Great customer service but that was expected. I currently have some Sonic Tuning wheels and that was an excellent purchase as well. One stupid question however, what is the purpose of the third threaded collar near the bottom of the CO? It looks useless to me, if our CO's even have those.

superskaterxes 07-24-2012 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpolseno41 (Post 1525097)
No problem! Great customer service but that was expected. I currently have some Sonic Tuning wheels and that was an excellent purchase as well. One stupid question however, what is the purpose of the third threaded collar near the bottom of the CO? It looks useless to me, if our CO's even have those.

the third threaded collar locks the bottom strut mount from rotating in the hub.

06Speed6 07-25-2012 06:25 PM

How is the corrosion resistance of these shocks? I drive my car in salt water and sand on the beach. Is that stainless hardware? And why only the ms3 for adj camber upper mounts?

Sorry for all the questions.

psychophyr 07-25-2012 07:32 PM

I wouldn't mind putting down a deposit, but 6-8 weeks is bad timing for me. Doing a road trip in 4 weeks and would like to rid myself of the monster truck ride height. If its possible to get them delivered before then I'm down to pay. Sucks, I really want these over the H&R's or the BC's. I know its probably not possible though.

superskaterxes 07-25-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06Speed6 (Post 1527488)
How is the corrosion resistance of these shocks? I drive my car in salt water and sand on the beach. Is that stainless hardware? And why only the ms3 for adj camber upper mounts?

Sorry for all the questions.

you drive your 6 on the beach? wtf lol


all the hardware is stainless

the ms6 suspension is not designed to have camber adjustable plates at the top. you could shift the plat 3 inches one way on the 6 and it wouldent change camber at all.


this is the setup on the 3

http://0.tqn.com/d/autorepair/1/0/f/N/shock_strut.jpg

so as the top of the shock moves its directly connected to the hub and therefore provides camber adjustment


the 6 has a double wishbone like this (almost except the bottom shock mount is slightly different but same concept)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/...27f53e8d9f.jpg


as you move the top camber plate on this setup it does nothing because the bottom of the shock mount just rotates. the camber adjustment must be done from the upper ball joint or the upper/lower control arm bushings.

06Speed6 07-25-2012 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1527619)
you drive your 6 on the beach? wtf lol


all the hardware is stainless

the ms6 suspension is not designed to have camber adjustable plates at the top. you could shift the plat 3 inches one way on the 6 and it wouldent change camber at all.


this is the setup on the 3

http://0.tqn.com/d/autorepair/1/0/f/N/shock_strut.jpg

so as the top of the shock moves its directly connected to the hub and therefore provides camber adjustment


the 6 has a double wishbone like this (almost except the bottom shock mount is slightly different but same concept)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3014/...27f53e8d9f.jpg


as you move the top camber plate on this setup it does nothing because the bottom of the shock mount just rotates. the camber adjustment must be done from the upper ball joint or the upper/lower control arm bushings.

Thanks

Yeah I drive my car on the beach lol, i had about 4" of salty sand caked around my steering rack to prove it. Seriously this car can drive circles around most 4wd trucks, I have only gotten stuck once and it took a diesel 4wd to drag me out.

Ive shyed away from coil overs because I am afraid that they will just corrode up and ill lose the use of everything that I paid for

Nliiitend1 07-26-2012 07:42 AM

The Sonics are stainless steel??

Why don't they mention that in the product descriptions on their website (or did I miss it)?

That's definitely a highly positive attribute for a street car suspension in most U.S. climates.

Onelovesoccer 07-26-2012 01:20 PM

i want these so bad. but i can't pull the trigger at the moment. this pay check was rent/bills, so no fun for 2 weeks. these look fantastic and it sounds like they work well too!

dpolseno41 07-26-2012 03:43 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Alright I can't figure out how the rear springs are supposed to seat. The adjuster goes towards the top right? There's no good way for it sit. It just sits on the bolt which definitely isn't right. The bottom of the spring seats perfectly.

@superskaterxes
@sonictuning

superskaterxes 07-26-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpolseno41 (Post 1528955)
Alright I can't figure out how the rear springs are supposed to seat. The adjuster goes towards the top right? There's no good way for it sit. It just sits on the bolt which definitely isn't right. The bottom of the spring seats perfectly.

@superskaterxes
@sonictuning

im pretty sure thats right but @doubleflusher had this same problem with his when he went to install them because it wasent totally obvious the way its supposed to sit.

i just gave him a ring but he was at dinner. ill update this thread as soon as i find out.

dpolseno41 07-26-2012 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by superskaterxes (Post 1528974)
im pretty sure thats right but @doubleflusher had this same problem with his when he went to install them because it wasent totally obvious the way its supposed to sit.

i just gave him a ring but he was at dinner. ill update this thread as soon as i find out.

It wouldn't make sense if that was right though, it's literally just sitting on the bolt up top not locked in in any fashion. And it can't be the reverse because everything just falls through the hole in the lower control arm. Thanks for getting right on this for me.

MonstaSpeed6 07-26-2012 04:28 PM

Damn, I want to buy some. If you guys could do a shock dyno, i'd plop the money down right now, and wait.

I just don't want to jump on faith. H&R Streets cost the same, but there's no need to leap there, even if they aren't adjustable. They have shock dynos and I know that they are acutally increasing performance, not just in ride stiffness but road holding.

Don't kill me for this post, Ant.

doubleflusher 07-26-2012 04:52 PM

Yes, the spring perch goes at the top, however odd it may seem. It does work.

If you have more issues, take a pic so we can see what's up and maybe make some marks on the pic.

dpolseno41 07-26-2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doubleflusher (Post 1529098)
Yes, the spring perch goes at the top, however odd it may seem. It does work.

If you have more issues, take a pic so we can see what's up and maybe make some marks on the pic.

So it goes in exactly like I have it in the picture? Where the little hole sits on the bolt? Or did they design it so you actually take the bolt out and put it through the perch? That would actually make sense.


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