2010+ Mazdaspeed 3 performance air intake discussion

[adlpb]

Originally Posted by Scoobs But you changed the filter, why?

Because the filter I have metallic and lasts a lot longer than the one that comes with Cobb.

[Scoobs]

In the look deparment, Sure wins it out right. For the price the CS seems a great deal. And Cobb is a classic. Cp-E is an other thing, I read the FMIC thread from Cp-E and didn't like the customer is wrong attitude. The price for their TIP is crazy.
I'll use the K.I.S.S. mentality for the SRI (Keep It Simple Stupid) and I'll get the CS. And maybe the FMIC kit as well as the same time ($200 for a SRI/TIP can't be ingnored!).

[Buddhamonk]

If you really want to keep it simple the SRI alone a lot easier to install than the SRI/TIP combo and the TIP doesn't add much. I went with SURE because of all the reports of CEL with Cobb which isn't an issue for people with AP but I don't have one.

[Scoobs]

Originally Posted by Buddhamonk If you really want to keep it simple the SRI alone a lot easier to install than the SRI/TIP combo and the TIP doesn't add much. I went with SURE because of all the reports of CEL with Cobb which isn't an issue for people with AP but I don't have one.

The maps on the AP says SRI + TIP, and I'm going for stage 2 FMIC maps in the futur.

If I'm going to do the FP internals anyway why not do it all at the same time since the battery/box is out and old crapy TIP is out of the way. And if I get the CS SRI/FMIC kit, well the TMIC would be out of the way too.....

I like Sure but not the price, if I get no CEL with CS and same power gain why pay more?

[NinjaT1985]

Originally Posted by Buddhamonk If you really want to keep it simple the SRI alone a lot easier to install than the SRI/TIP combo and the TIP doesn't add much. I went with SURE because of all the reports of CEL with Cobb which isn't an issue for people with AP but I don't have one.

I've had my COBB SRI on for a while now... no CEL, just an awesome sound and great quality. But it seems @ least one person has had a CEL with every intake out there on the market... oh well

[rfinkle2]

I can add a bit to this having had:

K&N - oiled filter, no air straightener, mine had poor quality control issues and seems to run well on stock tune only

Corksport - dry filter, great quality except for the air straightener comes loose. A bit floppy due to no support bracket

Cobb - oiled filter, Great quality, air straightner is part of the maf housing, bracket holds the filter secure to battery tray

[adlpb]

+1 for Cobb. No issues at all, put in the car literally the week after I purchased it.

[Harmacintyre]

I know im dumb for asking, but is the sure aeros waterproof without the element shield?

[bezzle01]

Stumbled upon this intake and couldn't find any info on it.

Silicone Hose, Silicone Hoses, Turbo Hose, Turbo Hoses, Intercooler Hose, Intercooler Hoses, Turbo Connectors,T-bolt Clamps,Race-Proven Quality by HPS Performance Racing Products

Looks like a descent piece and amazon has it for 187 + 20(shipping).

[PDigg]

Hello all,

1) Yes, I am going to donate. As soon as I straighten out some issues with my PayPal account that I have not used in quite some time.
2) MANY thank you's to all who added to this thread. Very informative. I had about nine questions when I started at page one. By the time I got to page nine, eight of those questions were resolved.
3) Question #9 which I couldn't find a definitive answer for, and I am not even sure if there is a definite answer to it....

My first round of mod's to de-virgin my 2011 MS3 originally were just going to be RMM and SRI. While reading, I figured since I am going to be in there anyway, why not throw in a TIP?
From reading through this thread, and others, I've seen some people state that just an SRI/TIP combination is fine without a tune. The ECU will work itself out and adjust accordingly.

I've seen others state that adding the TIP without a tune should not be done because it can cause a boost spike.

I would LOVE to throw in an AP as well and make this a non-issue, but the wife keeps reminding me that we just had a kid and the money is needed somewhere else (something about diapers and formula). So, dropping that extra money right now is not an option. It will be further down the road, just not now.

Is there a general concensus on SRI/TIP - No tune? Anyone out there do this at some point and have first hand experience? I've even read some opinions that the TIP is no big gain and it's a waste to do that.

Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
P

[wolly6973]

There is not much gain from the TIP. But if you get a metal one like the CS you get some more sound.
TIP or not is not going to affect your tune. The only thing that could affect it is the MAF cal, which would be from the SRI, not the TIP.

If you want the best bang for your buck, you can get the Corksport SRI + TIP combo for about the same price as other SRI's without the TIP.

[PDigg]

Originally Posted by wolly6973 There is not much gain from the TIP. But if you get a metal one like the CS you get some more sound. TIP or not is not going to affect your tune. The only thing that could affect it is the MAF cal, which would be from the SRI, not the TIP. If you want the best bang for your buck, you can get the Corksport SRI + TIP combo for about the same price as other SRI's without the TIP.

Thanks for the quick response, Wolly.

Guess I'll just stick with the RMM and SRI for now and throw the money saved in to the AP fund. I'm not really that interested in changing the sound, just want the performance benefits. From what you are saying, doesn't sound like there is $175 worth of benefit (I was planning on getting the SURE Aeros/Sidewinder)

[stang9779]

Originally Posted by PDigg Thanks for the quick response, Wolly. Guess I'll just stick with the RMM and SRI for now and throw the money saved in to the AP fund. I'm not really that interested in changing the sound, just want the performance benefits. From what you are saying, doesn't sound like there is $175 worth of benefit (I was planning on getting the SURE Aeros/Sidewinder)

Just get the CS SRI. The factory TIP is flat and restrictive. CS is the best for the buck.

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[adlpb]

If you already have a SRI, buy the TIP from @dizzydtrain
He has a brand new one in the For Sale section, which you cannot see due to your state of brown.

[Pedal-Force]

Originally Posted by stang9779 Just get the CS SRI. The factory TIP is flat and restrictive. CS is the best for the buck. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

Agreed. Once you get your air filter off and see the stock tip, you'll be surprised the car even runs. It's pathetic and restrictive looking. Even if it isn't that bad in reality, it looks bad enough to warrant replacing.

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[dizzydtrain]

Originally Posted by PDigg Thanks for the quick response, Wolly. Guess I'll just stick with the RMM and SRI for now and throw the money saved in to the AP fund. I'm not really that interested in changing the sound, just want the performance benefits. From what you are saying, doesn't sound like there is $175 worth of benefit (I was planning on getting the SURE Aeros/Sidewinder)

Let me know if you are interested. It's a brand new Cobb TIP for $150 shipped.

[PDigg]

Damn it, I didn't realize the CorkSport was a SRI/TIP combo for $249. Thought it was just a more expensive SRI. Well, that may change everything.

[stang9779]

Originally Posted by PDigg Damn it, I didn't realize the CorkSport was a SRI/TIP combo for $249. Thought it was just a more expensive SRI. Well, that may change everything.

I have a CS Sri/tip for sale in the for sale area.

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[metalmatt]

Because I'm too much of a bitch to start a new thread for fear of persecution/burning at the stake -

How many of you run an intake without a tune? Any of you log some findings that were troublesome on the stock tune? I also assume the ECU and the general layout of the airbox/TIP is the same for Gen1's.

[crtguns]

Guys at Edge Autosport (unofficially) say the Cobb SRI is the best for otherwise non-mod'd engines.

[metalmatt]

Originally Posted by crtguns Guys at Edge Autosport (unofficially) say the Cobb SRI is the best for otherwise non-mod'd engines.

Subsequently the one I was looking at buying, both for the price and the fact that Cobb are the tuning gods. Good to know. I think I've convinced myself. I have a turbocharged vehicle, and damnit, I want everyone to know and I want to hear the damn thing. If it blows up, I drive a 1999 Civic. Haha.

I really shouldn't post this late. This is probably horrendous.

[stang9779]

Cobb is good just no tip for the money. CS is the best for the money. Just purchase my slightly used CS.

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[crtguns]

Well, it's official, my car sucks. You can hear it sucking from 2 blocks away. It sucks hard. The faster it goes, the more and louder it sucks.

There should be a warning label on the SRI box-

"This will make your car totally suck."



scared the shit out of me at first. But it's a very, very, good thing.



what is this"tip" that the cobb lacks?

The only problem wth the cobb I encountered is that the urethane tube needs to be about 1 inch longer. Hear that Cobb? make the rubber thing an inch longer. My sliced up bleeding wrist thinks this would be a good idea.

[Jake5713]

Originally Posted by crtguns Well, it's official, my car sucks. You can hear it sucking from 2 blocks away. It sucks hard. The faster it goes, the more and louder it sucks. There should be a warning label on the SRI box- "This will make your car totally suck." scared the shit out of me at first. But it's a very, very, good thing. what is this"tip" that the cobb lacks? The only problem wth the cobb I encountered is that the urethane tube needs to be about 1 inch longer. Hear that Cobb? make the rubber thing an inch longer. My sliced up bleeding wrist thinks this would be a good idea.

TIP=turbo inlet pipe
Corksport is a combo, much better


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[metalmatt]

Installed my Sure Aeros yesterday and I can honestly say it was 180$ worth every single fucking penny. Hell, squeezing my big hands into that clusterfuck of wires to attach it to the TIP was hard enough.. and the TIP is so crammed in there! I can imagine a TIP install being a beer-chugging, cuss-like-a-sailor fest. BLAH.

[Jake5713]

Originally Posted by metalmatt Installed my Sure Aeros yesterday and I can honestly say it was 180$ worth every single fucking penny. Hell, squeezing my big hands into that clusterfuck of wires to attach it to the TIP was hard enough.. and the TIP is so crammed in there! I can imagine a TIP install being a beer-chugging, cuss-like-a-sailor fest. BLAH.

It's a bitch but TIP is worth it IMHO


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[aanguia1]

Originally Posted by Jake5713 It's a bitch but TIP is worth it IMHO --- I am here: http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=44.739758,-93.108072 -Jake

Why is the tip worth it? I still haven't heard of a Turbo inlet pipe producing any gains besides making MPG worse.... I've had the sure aeros and sold it to get the cs Sri+tip just for the tip, honestly I didn't see any gains just my MPG go down by 2.... so I traded that in for another sure aeros and the sure Sidewinder but haven't installed the Sidewinder yet just the sri...

Has anyone covered this?

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[stang9779]

Originally Posted by aanguia1 Why is the tip worth it? I still haven't heard of a Turbo inlet pipe producing any gains besides making MPG worse.... I've had the sure aeros and sold it to get the cs Sri+tip just for the tip, honestly I didn't see any gains just my MPG go down by 2.... so I traded that in for another sure aeros and the sure Sidewinder but haven't installed the Sidewinder yet just the sri... Has anyone covered this? Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk

Look at the factory tip its flat and restrictive.

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[Jake5713]

Originally Posted by stang9779 Look at the factory tip its flat and restrictive. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

Exactly


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[turbospeed2007]

Originally Posted by Beebespeed I know I'm gonna get mad shitty responses from this question alright. I searched with every key word and phrase I could but could not fnd the answer. I installed the Injen CAI on my 11" ms3 and just recently only in like 2nd gear mid to high rpm it jerks or like cuts out. It doesn't happen often but it happens. Please don't respond with some lame thing like you should have gotten a Corksport or CP-e or Cobb Sri instead. Well here is some news- i have had those and they performed worse overall if you add everything up. I checked for leaks but cannot find any.. I dont know man...someone must have had something similar happen somewhere. Thanks for the help and criticism!! Lol

I installed a K&N Typhoon and experienced the same issue as you. I posted it on this forum but not in this thread. I immediately installed the Hypertech power tune as I was going to do anyways. It pretty much took care of it but I still have occasional hesitation and when that happens I hear detonation. I am working with K&N in regards to it right now. They have already mentioned me coming to their facility and them putting my vehicle on their chassis dyno. Do you figure out what's going on? Any results for you?

[wolly6973]

Originally Posted by turbospeed2007 I installed a K&N Typhoon and experienced the same issue as you. I posted it on this forum but not in this thread. I immediately installed the Hypertech power tune as I was going to do anyways. It pretty much took care of it but I still have occasional hesitation and when that happens I hear detonation. I am working with K&N in regards to it right now. They have already mentioned me coming to their facility and them putting my vehicle on their chassis dyno. Do you figure out what's going on? Any results for you?

Throw hypertech in garbage, acquire AP.

Problem solved.

[aanguia1]

Originally Posted by stang9779 Look at the factory tip its flat and restrictive. Sent from my SCH-I510 using Tapatalk

Did you get any improvement with it?

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[YZF-R6]

Originally Posted by aanguia1 Did you get any improvement with it? Sent from my LG-P999 using Tapatalk

Listen, you don't get an aftermarket TIP and expect 15whp gains man. Its just something you do to help the engine breathe a little easier. Just another bottle-neck removed. Their is no way you can look at the stock TIP and say that it flows well compared to a 2.5inch smooth flowing aftermarket piece. Also, there is absolutely NO way you would see a 2 mpg hit from adding a TIP. Just can not, will not happen. I guess you could call upgrading the stock TIP a "preventative" mod, for lack of a better word.

[stang9779]

Originally Posted by wolly6973 Throw hypertech in garbage, acquire AP. Problem solved.

true dat

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[Jake5713]

Originally Posted by YZF-R6 Listen, you don't get an aftermarket TIP and expect 15whp gains man. Its just something you do to help the engine breathe a little easier. Just another bottle-neck removed. Their is no way you can look at the stock TIP and say that it flows well compared to a 2.5inch smooth flowing aftermarket piece. Also, there is absolutely NO way you would see a 2 mpg hit from adding a TIP. Just can not, will not happen. I guess you could call upgrading the stock TIP a "preventative" mod, for lack of a better word.

Thank you
Lazy poster on my phone


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[YZF-R6]

Lol I swear, this aanguia1 guy has a personal vendetta out for aftermarket TIP's. I dont get it......

[crtguns]

That's why Edge autosport guy sez the Cobb is best for cars with otherwise unmodded intake system.

If your turbo's aftermarket, I can see why you'd need a new inlet, thise require 3" tip.

Cob sounds too cool man. I swear that sound make you go faster. And you know when you're driving more economically... keep from activating the big sucking sound.

[aanguia1]

Originally Posted by YZF-R6 Lol I swear, this aanguia1 guy has a personal vendetta out for aftermarket TIP's. I dont get it......

I don't have anything against a tip lol if anything I'm just curious because I can't give any feedback on it due to me didn't feel a difference between the two, but yeah its a preventive upgrade I guess...

Its true that pancake we call OEM tip sucks balls but like I said I just didn't feel any gains that's why I just posted what I saw when I drove with it

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[crtguns]

I've had my SRI in for 2 weeks now, still getting used to it... seems to like a slightly different strategy on the throttle and shifter.

Today was the first cold day this year. This AM was 55 degrees. I'm getting on the freeway. Holy shiiit. Boost like I've never felt before. Sure, the slight curve (flat, not downhill) to the ramp gives an added sensation of acceleration, but really, I was a little bit shaken. Thing almost got away from me. I was a hair over 100 in 5th when I came to and realized what was happening. I swear I made that 100 mark as I hot the first lane.


When Cobb says up to 15HP gains, I really really have to say I got ALL of those 15. Maybe more. Thing wants to run!

[TheRocky]

Hi i wanted to know if the mazdaspeed CAI brand of a 2008 speed 3 will fit with no problem and no CEL on a 2011 speed 3

Thank you very much