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dooderek 03-19-2012 03:10 PM

big turbo stock block thread
 
Resource thread for big turbo STOCK blocks

This is not meant to be a cut and dry this is what's ok thread. Its a guideline/ball park figures other people are running on stock blocks. If you blow your engine because you copyed what smeone else is running then lawls.

What you guys pushing? I.e timing/boost/fuel on the stock block

91 + 2.5 gal e85
Do7 pre tb / Do1 pre turbo
100 percent meth
17 deg to RL
6031@27psi
400 g/s RL


chinacharger bt@ 50k miles
6031 bt @ 61k miles
current mileage 64k
Running strong =)

EdgeAutosport.com 03-19-2012 04:11 PM

92/2.5 gallons E85
t3 3076r
16* up top
20k+ miles on BT 75k on the car


Car pulls like a freight train

dooderek 03-19-2012 04:14 PM

What psi eric?

EdgeAutosport.com 03-19-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Chinkus (Post 1317318)
What psi eric?

Ive been running 26psi. Im doing seals and other shit then retune til I max my injectors out or get the 5th port installed. Whichever comes first and im hoping its the 5th port being installed.

phate 03-19-2012 10:13 PM

nub.

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...threads-61143/


Edit: lolololol

dooderek 03-19-2012 10:30 PM

that thread sucks and is old

obijack 03-20-2012 06:32 AM

c'mon needz moar info, where's everyone at? @Daddy Chinkus How many miles have you been BT? Ebay turbo and all. When/if there is enough info in here this thread should be made a sticky.

EdgeAutosport.com 03-20-2012 09:02 AM

Before I was BT I ran reworked for 30k fully bolted. 330whp&374wtq my car is abused lol

NJSPEED3 03-20-2012 09:23 AM

Before building I ran

superstocker 24psi
16* @ rl
70/30 meth do7
aprox 10k
made about 320/380


then
t3 3076 .82 (22psi)
do7 70/30
16* @ rl
aprx 5k miles
made 420whp

atvfreek 03-20-2012 10:01 AM

Good shit guys!

Realgib3 03-20-2012 10:18 AM

93/2 gallons E85
ATP(:thumbsdown:) GTX76
20.5* up top
23-25psi
15k+ miles on BT 55k on the car
~430whp

Alpha 03-20-2012 11:10 AM

What if you have a lil turbo? :)

EdgeAutosport.com 03-20-2012 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpha (Post 1318611)
What if you have a lil big turbo? :)

fixed

Roddiy 03-20-2012 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eric@edgeautosport (Post 1318400)
Before I was BT I ran reworked for 30k fully bolted. 330whp&374wtq my car is abused lol

Out of (noob) curiosity, and to have this info in this thread, what's the advantage of going reworked, and how much would it cost?

EDIT: Im loving this thread :headbang:

EdgeAutosport.com 03-20-2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roddiy (Post 1318642)
Out of (noob) curiosity, and to have this info in this thread, what's the advantage of going reworked, and how much would it cost?

Its fail imo and it came on my car. From what I have read its 900 for one and at best they do a lil more up top and imo its not even noticeable.

dooderek 03-20-2012 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Realgib3 (Post 1318510)
93/2 gallons E85
ATP(:thumbsdown:) GTX76
20.5* up top
23-25psi
15k+ miles on BT 55k on the car
~430whp

hahaha i would love me some 20.5 timing up top!!! 91 shit ghes =[

Broxer 03-20-2012 01:14 PM

Currently have 1k on turbo 22k on car.
93/2g E85 + Do7 in cold pipe 80/20 mix
17 deg at RL
GTX3071r@24.5psi
370g/s @ Redline. VD shows 409hp 408tq w/ 1.01 CF

Boosted Beluga 03-20-2012 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Chinkus (Post 1318835)
hahaha i would love me some 20.5 timing up top!!! 91 shit ghes =[

Your using meth and e85 tho.

SleeperHatch 03-20-2012 02:47 PM

Running GTX3071r at 24psi
200 on turbo, 51k on car
Will be running 91/E85 2.5gal mix
Tune still in progress

superskaterxes 03-20-2012 06:48 PM

ATP 3076
93 for 18k @16*
5050/100 meth D07
93/E30 3k @19.5*
100 meth D10
26psi on the regular

430/464

EdgeAutosport.com 03-21-2012 09:15 AM

@superskaterxes what did your egts look like on that atp hotside at that psi?

superskaterxes 03-21-2012 05:33 PM

i never broke ~1700

86AmishMs3 03-22-2012 04:55 AM

2009- 32k miles with 500 on the turbo
GT3076 ATP hotside
21psi and 13 degrees currently
91/ 2.5g E85
Still tuning....will update once done

cld12pk2go 03-24-2012 06:53 PM

93 with 4 gal E
M10 meth nozzle with 100% VP Racing M1
ATP GTX3071

Boost Targets from 2500-7000:
Code:

16.00        19.00        21.00        22.00        23.00        23.50        24.00        25.00        25.00        25.00
Ignition Timing from 2000-7000:
Code:

0.00        4.00        6.00        8.00        9.00        10.50        12.00        14.00        16.50        17.50

EGT ~1630°F peak on 4th gear pull from 2k to RL

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j6...031412-1VD.jpg

Need to get to a dyno soon...

rigor 03-24-2012 07:57 PM

.5557 with billet wheel 4''inlet .63 hotside
93 octane
recently switched from sandback to ap ( huge difference!)
so currently tuning only at 21 psi, should be back to 26psi after fifth port
going with 5th port injection soon

been bt 15000 miles no problems

dooderek 04-11-2012 06:15 PM

@dturboman spill the beans

dturboman 04-12-2012 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Chinkus (Post 1355800)
@dturboman spill the beans

the engine let go last night while driving on the turnpike... no hole on block but bent a rod:(

Boosted Beluga 04-12-2012 08:14 AM

:( so what are your plains with it now?

Lex 04-12-2012 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dturboman (Post 1356515)
the engine let go last night while driving on the turnpike... no hole on block but bent a rod:(

It was just a matter of time at those boost and power levels.

dturboman 04-12-2012 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lex (Post 1356702)
It was just a matter of time at those boost and power levels.


was not even in power when it happen, was doing 50 through a construction zone and it let go.

Looks like its going to be built now.

86AmishMs3 04-12-2012 09:26 AM

Sad to see it give....you pushed that little 3071 hard. Any thing seem off before it went.

dturboman 04-12-2012 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86azms3 (Post 1356772)
Sad to see it give....you pushed that little 3071 hard. Any thing seem off before it went.

I had the AP hooked up a few minutes before it happened, and I was seeing more than usual PT knock, but it would just come and go as if the engine was maximizing fuel mileage, few minutes later it jerked hard and the clutch pedal was vibrating hard.

so it looks like there was no way to prevent it... it was just its time.

86AmishMs3 04-12-2012 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dturboman (Post 1356799)
I had the AP hooked up a few minutes before it happened, and I was seeing more than usual PT knock, but it would just come and go as if the engine was maximizing fuel mileage, few minutes later it jerked hard and the clutch pedal was vibrating hard.

so it looks like there was no way to prevent it... it was just its time.

Gay..it went out like a little bitch. Wot always...have you learned nothing...Jk can't wait to see you back up again

dturboman 04-12-2012 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 86azms3 (Post 1356807)
Gay..it went out like a little bitch. Wot always...have you learned nothing...Jk can't wait to see you back up again

yeah man it sucks this could not have happened at a worse time.

the miles and the power took its toll on her, now we know 160k and high boost(28-32psi) will last just not forever.

going to do rods, pistons and new bearings, hopefully total with machine will be under 3k

TRSpeed 04-12-2012 10:15 AM

Damn sucks, then again your car was a trooper 160kmi and at 30 psi lol beast.

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Lex 04-12-2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dturboman (Post 1356799)
I had the AP hooked up a few minutes before it happened, and I was seeing more than usual PT knock, but it would just come and go as if the engine was maximizing fuel mileage, few minutes later it jerked hard and the clutch pedal was vibrating hard.

so it looks like there was no way to prevent it... it was just its time.

Stress over time on the rods weakens and they slowly deform. I don't want to bring back the S/N curve for metals but while there are some cars running around at 400+whp and especially high low end torque with a stock bottom end IMO even with the best tune you're on borrowed time. We've seen this time and again. That's not unreasonable given that's almost double factory rated hp and @dturboman here was running more than that.

GL with the build

dturboman 04-13-2012 06:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daddy Chinkus (Post 1355800)
@dturboman spill the beans


Well here are the specs when it was running

Gt3071r with back half ported and coated.
22.5* max timing
625ML & 375ML nozzle running 100% meth
c16/93 mix
31-32.5PSI
518 whp 497tq

ran 11.9@ 123.4 on 26psi and 450whp

dooderek 04-15-2012 11:43 PM

dude wtf is this shit? take your chit chat outa here, cleaning up in 1 day

cld12pk2go 04-16-2012 03:22 AM

FYI,

Here is my BT with stock block dyno thread:

http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...7-9wtq-110833/

RayRay 04-18-2012 02:07 PM

Just Installed...

GTX3076 / IWG
24psi
17* at RL
50/50 E85
100% Meth, D05
About 500 miles on current setup.
39k on Motor, And Beat the Shit out of it Daily!!

http://i1217.photobucket.com/albums/...73gz/24psi.jpg


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