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Official Gen One MS3 CBE Thread!! 1 Attachment(s) Updated 2/2015 by @Inquisitive; with more current information. MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $511, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $532Mufflers / Silencers are expensive and offer the least bang for buck when compared with the HP gains to costs of (from highest to lowest) N2O, BT plus MAP, TP / RP, WMI, SRI / TIP, DP, Camshaft, IC, PNP, EM and IM. Having said that, a straight muffler / silencer delete is the least chosen option below. However, more members have deleted their resonators than have purchased ABEs or the majority of CBEs (barring the top two). CBE and ABE are mainly about the sound and partially the looks (4” Tips?). If you do not have a lot of HP, perhaps you can bluff your way with loudness. For guidance, decide upon a fast cat or not depending upon your emissions inspections and choose either a TP / RP (cat-2 delete) or DP (cat-1 delete) first for more power. That will provide a lower frequency tone, which is a bit louder. If you didn’t purchase a Long / Full DP with fast cat, then you need to decide on a second cat (cat-2) delete via a Test / Race / Track Pipe, which also adds sound level volume and adds more power through less exhaust restriction. “The increased exhaust flow will move the detonation threshold up and creates enough VE to allow for slightly higher boost targets.” (Cobb) However, running completely cat-less can create severe boost spikes as well as over boost conditions. Do not restrict your future BT decisions by going less than 3” if you decide to continue with a CBE with resonator delete. You must decide on your drone tolerance level, which is why the above progression is proposed. Exhausting Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle) Axle-back Exhaust (ABE) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle) Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen1 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...r_cbe_gen1.jpg 4” Single Angle Cut http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._angle_tip.jpg 4” Rolled Angle Cut http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._angle_tip.jpg 4” Titanium Tip http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-ur_tittip.jpg MS3 Gen2 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...r_cbe_gen2.jpg 1.41 HP, 2.8 Torque, 3” 304 SS, 4” tips, 3/8” flanges, TIG welded, 26 lbs v 42 lbs stock Available from: MS3 Gen1 Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found) MS3 Gen1 (Yes) CBE $550, Resonated +$100, Tips: polished straight, angle, angle rolled or +$75 angle Titanium; Gasket $18 MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TBE $1,195 Catless or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Metal Substrate Core, +$50 V2 DP, +$25 Wideband Bung, +$80 Resonated TP or +$100 Ceramic Core TP or +$150 Ceramic Core TP, +$100 Resonator, Tips: 4” straight, angle, +$50 rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; CBE $750 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$100 Resonated or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Ceramic Core; +$18 Gasket Muffler $475 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$18 Gasket CorkSport MS6 Power Series http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...st-cs_6_ps.jpg MS6 Gen1 TBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...t-cs_6_tbe.jpg MS3 Gen1 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen1 TBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_tbe.jpg MS3 Gen2 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen2 Single Exit http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ingle_exit.jpg 21%: 80mm pipes, high flow silencer / muffler or 100mm single exit exhaust saving 22 lbs, 2 year warranty, ovaled 80mm tips Available from: MS6 CorkSport MS6 MS3 Gen1 CorkSport MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 CorkSport MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) Power Series $699.99; TBE $1,217.99 Resonated RP or +$90 High Flow Cat MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Power Series CBE $449.99; TBE $807.99 MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TBE $1,197.99; CBE $749.99; ABE $450.99; Single Exit $549.99 Resonator Delete See TP / RP in: http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-thread-99627/ CP-E MS6 Austenite http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._austenite.jpg MS6 Single CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...single_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen1 Nexus http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...gen1_nexus.jpg MS3 Gen2 Triton http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...n2_trition.jpg MS3 Gen2 Tips http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._gen2_tips.jpg 3” SS, dual resonators, dual 4” tips Available from: MS6 CP-E MS6 MS3 Gen1 CP-E MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 CP-E MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) Austenite $1,061.75; Single CBE $726.90 +$100 Resonator; Stock or 3” DP MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Nexus $720.51 Tips: Polished, Titan, +$100 Black Chrome MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Triton $882.52 Tips: Standard, Polished or +$50 Black; +$150 12” Oval Muffler Magnaflow Dual Split Rear Exit CBE MS6 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...flow_6_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen2 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_cbe.jpg 2.5" (might actually be 2¼” at restriction) pipe; 4" tips, mandrel bent piping and a lifetime MagnaFlow warranty WARNING: may not align well with UR RP / TP (leaks, carbon build-up - rfinkle2) Available from: MS6 Magnaflow MS6 MS3 Gen2 Magnaflow MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Yes) $716.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $717.95 OBX MS3 Gen1 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen2 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_cbe.jpg T-304 SS, lifetime warranty of factory defects, CNC machined flanges, DUAL-TIG Available from: MS3 Gen1 OBX CBE MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 CNT MS3 Gen1 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen2 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_cbe.jpg Racing 76mm CBE: 3” 304 SS, 4” blue or silver tips, gaskets and hardware included, 4 - 6 weeks to manufacture Available from: CNT MS3 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Blue Tip $369, Silver Tip $359, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Blue Tips $550, Silver Tips $499 Cobb MS3 Gen 1 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen 1 TBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_tbe.jpg MS3 Gen 2 CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen 2 TBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_tbe.jpg 3" pipe; 84 dB conforms to California’s SAE J1169's 95 dB noise level limit; T304 SS Available from: MS3 Gen1 Cobb MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Cobb MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) CBE $725, TBE $1375; MS3 Gen2 (Yes) CBE $895, TBE $1,475 Speed Daddy (eBay) http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._daddy_cbe.jpg 10 - 20 HP, 3” T-304 SS pipes, mandrel bends, TIG welded, CNC machined, Tips 4.5”, gaskets and hardware included Available from: Speed Daddy (eBay) MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $348.99 Racing Beat Power Pulse MS3 Gen1 Twin-Tip http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...n_tips_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen2 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...beat_3_cbe.jpg 3” 304 SS utilizes all stock hangers and mounting brackets to ensure a secure fitment, cast SS flanges are used to mate each component section and incorporates a Mazda OEM-style O-ring crush gasket for superior sealing WARNING: many posts of poor customer service Available from: MS3 Gen1 Racing Beat MS3 Gen1 MS3 Gen2 Racing Beat MS3 Gen2 MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $565 4” Single or Twin Tip, MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $791 XForce http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_tbe.jpg 3” Available from: XForce TBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Australian$1,600 TBE; Australian$880 CBE ARK Performance DT-S Exhaust System http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_cbe.jpg Info: http://www.arkperformance.com/ 10 HP, 9 torque, provides the perfect combination of sound, style and performance, 3” mirror polished T304 SS, mandrel bends, TIG welded, no silencer, 72 dB @ 3000 RPMS, 4.5” tip finishes such as polished, burnt and “tecno”, installation time: 40 minutes claimed Available from: ARK Performance DT-S CBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $1,087.20 GReddy Racing CBE MS3 Gen1 RS http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru..._3_gen1_rs.jpg MS3 Gen1 TiC http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_tic.jpg MS3 Gen2 SP Elite http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...2_sp_elite.jpg MS3 Gen2 Supreme SP http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...supreme_sp.jpg Info: http://www.greddy.com/products/ 80mm unpolished SS pipe; 4" titanium tips, dual polished SS mufflers / silencers, not available - replaced with SP Elite: 70mm, single resonator, no muffler / silencer, sound level 79db, 47 lbs Available from: MS3 Gen1 Ti-C GReddy Racing Ti-C MS3 Gen2 SP Elite GReddy Racing SP Elite MS3 Gen2 SP GReddy Racing Supreme SP MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) RS (Racing Sport) Exhaust $?, $699 TI-C; MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $699 TI-C (single); $1,135.25 SP Elite and $? Supreme SP Exhaust TurboXS Cat-Back or Stealthback Exhaust System http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen1_cbe.jpg 3” T-304 SS, mandrel bent, CNC flanges, dual resonated, 5” slash cut tip Available from: TurboXS CBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $599, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) Vibrant Downpipe-Back (CBE) Exhaust System http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...rant_3_cbe.jpg 20 HP, 25 ft. lbs. at 4500 RPMs, 3” SS, CNC, mandrel bent, unrestricted exhaust flow, two straight-thru StreetPower oval mufflers and resonators, 4” angle cut exhaust tip Available from: Vibrant Downpipe-Back (CBE) Exhaust System MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $665.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) HKS Hi-power Exhaust System http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...egamax_abe.jpg Hasegawa, Kitagawa, and Sigma Info: http://www.hksusa.com/ 3”, mandrel bent, SS muffler, O2 bung Available from: HKS Hi-power CBE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $514.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ETS CBE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-ets_6_cbe.jpg Extreme Turbo Systems Available from: ETS CBE MS6 (Yes) $1,018.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Not found) GHL CBE MS6 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-ghl_6_cbe.jpg MS3 Gen1 http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...1&d=1425531400 3”, SS, 4” double wall tip Available from: MS6 GHL CBE MS6 MS3 Gen1 GHL CBE MS3 Gen1 MS6 (Yes) $938.95, MS3 Gen1 (Yes) $759.95, MS3 Gen2 (Not found) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Axle-back Exhaust (ABE) CorkSport ABE http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_abe.jpg silencer / muffler delete, mandrel bent, TIG welded 80mm corrosion-resistant T304 SS polished piping for a smooth flow and clean solid connections with 100mm SS tips, two-year warranty Available from: CorkSport ABE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $450.99 Ultimate Racing Performance Muffler http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ffler_gen2.jpg 304 SS piping, dual high-flow (straight through) polished SS silencers / mufflers, 4” tips (options: single wall, rolled, titanium), TIG welded, upgradeable to CBE Available from: Ultimate Racing Performance Muffler MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $465 HKS Legamax Axle-back http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...egamax_abe.jpg Hasegawa, Kitagawa, and Sigma Info: http://www.hksusa.com/ SUS304 SS, 65 mm (2.55”), 2 110 mm tips Available from: HKS Legamax ABE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Legamax $995.95 Borla Axleback http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...3_gen2_abe.jpg 2¾" pipe; T304 SS premium austenitic stainless steel, superior to T-400 series; 5" tips, straight-through to unleash hidden horsepower. Increased exhaust velocity adds power, fuel economy, distinctive BORLA Sound of Power, mandrel bends, computer-controlled CNC, Million-Mile Warranty Available from: Borla ABE MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $772.99 AutoExe ABE Premium Muffler http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...xe_muffler.jpg Exhaust Chamber http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...ex_chamber.jpg Available from: Axela BK3P AutoExe BK3P Tail Muffler Axela BK3FW AutoExe BK3FW Tail Muffler MS6 (Not found), MS3 Gen1 (Yes), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $486.81 to 550.31 Axela BK3P Muffler; $599.70 Axela BK3FW Muffler |
Fucking awesome! How's the knee? |
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Installed the Corksport Turbo back Exhaust system on my '07 MS3 but the o2 sensors were pretty much welded into place, and when attempting to remove them they pretty much shattered. I was hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned, and where would be the best place to get an inexpensive o2 sensor. |
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hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned wqfdewfvkgsa20120512 Lenovo FRU 42T4688,ThinkPad T400s T410s Series laptop battery |
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Does anyone have pictures of the CNT catback installed? I want to see how this 30 degree exit looks. |
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any idea when the greddy type rs cbe debuts? |
2 weeks....lol! Seriously, no idea, have not heard of it. I do love my 3" corksport. |
I just want some feedback about the CNT catback ? - Is it drone ? - How much louder than OEM ? - Much bubly than the oem (subaru like) - Is it much louder than OEM at 3000rpm at 60mph on highway ? - Do you have an idea to put the tip straight instead than 30 degree angle |
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2. Idle=very quiet 2-2.5k cruise= pretty quiet, no real drone. 3k cruise= only a tiny bit more drone than stock wot= Racecar 3. Yes 4. See #3 5. Cut and weld |
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So it's perfect fit for you ... no regret ? |
I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done. |
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I'm waiting news from you |
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Fuck yeah this TBE is a deal even the CBE |
Can I heat the hanger to remove the 30 degree angle and bring it straight line and cold it to stay in place when I like it ? |
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Its the tip the creates the angle, not the hanger. Im sure that an exhaust shop could cut it and weld in back on straight for pretty cheap. |
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Here are 2 vids for the CNT Setup. 2008 Mazdaspeed3 CNT Racing Exhaust - YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmsXB...iDrDQOf-8iy_-A |
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had to cut the old exhaust off all in all loved it, sounds nice, not too loud just real deep, didnt instal the catless DP because we were too drunk and tired lol but thats next. |
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I hesitated between CNT and Corksport ... because I want the one who has the more deeper sound, bublier (no drone) , and close enough quiet comparable at the oem. which one you take ? |
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IMO Racing Beat FTW. Really love the sound in the vid. Mine is getting installed at this moment. Didn't like the twin tips though, so I ordered the single tip version. I'll post pics in the next few days. |
Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ? is it drone ? much louder than oem ? Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ? |
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Corksport catback genone owner ! Can I have your feedback about your catback ? Like a daily driver is it nice ? Absolutely not annoying during higway trip ? |
Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ? is it drone ? much louder than oem ? Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ? |
^^ Buy the CNT. Save money. You're way over thinking this. Yes I have it (Full TBE, catted) It is less drone over stock. At idle it is silent. At WOT, it is sex. That is all. |
^ ^Agreed. You are putting way too much thought into something that is should be a relatively simple choice. +1 cnt Tapa |
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