Official Gen One MS3 CBE Thread!!

[supertubesocks]

Updated 2/2015 by @Inquisitive; with more current information.

Mufflers / Silencers are expensive and offer the least bang for buck when compared with the HP gains to costs of (from highest to lowest) N2O, BT plus MAP, TP / RP, WMI, SRI / TIP, DP, Camshaft, IC, PNP, EM and IM. Having said that, a straight muffler / silencer delete is the least chosen option below. However, more members have deleted their resonators than have purchased ABEs or the majority of CBEs (barring the top two). CBE and ABE are mainly about the sound and partially the looks (4” Tips?). If you do not have a lot of HP, perhaps you can bluff your way with loudness.

For guidance, decide upon a fast cat or not depending upon your emissions inspections and choose either a TP / RP (cat-2 delete) or DP (cat-1 delete) first for more power. That will provide a lower frequency tone, which is a bit louder. If you didn’t purchase a Long / Full DP with fast cat, then you need to decide on a second cat (cat-2) delete via a Test / Race / Track Pipe, which also adds sound level volume and adds more power through less exhaust restriction. “The increased exhaust flow will move the detonation threshold up and creates enough VE to allow for slightly higher boost targets.” (Cobb) However, running completely cat-less can create severe boost spikes as well as over boost conditions. Do not restrict your future BT decisions by going less than 3” if you decide to continue with a CBE with resonator delete. You must decide on your drone tolerance level, which is why the above progression is proposed.

Exhausting

Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle)
Axle-back Exhaust (ABE)

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Cat-back Exhaust (CBE) (from fast cat to back of vehicle)

Ultimate Racing
MS3 Gen1 CBE

4” Single Angle Cut

4” Rolled Angle Cut

4” Titanium Tip

MS3 Gen2 CBE

1.41 HP, 2.8 Torque, 3” 304 SS, 4” tips, 3/8” flanges, TIG welded, 26 lbs v 42 lbs stock
Available from:
MS3 Gen1
Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
Ultimate Racing MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Not found)
MS3 Gen1 (Yes)
CBE $550, Resonated +$100, Tips: polished straight, angle, angle rolled or +$75 angle Titanium; Gasket $18
MS3 Gen2 (Yes)
TBE $1,195 Catless or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Metal Substrate Core, +$50 V2 DP, +$25 Wideband Bung, +$80 Resonated TP or +$100 Ceramic Core TP or +$150 Ceramic Core TP, +$100 Resonator, Tips: 4” straight, angle, +$50 rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle;
CBE $750 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$100 Resonated or +$100 Ceramic Core or +$150 Ceramic Core; +$18 Gasket
Muffler $475 Tips: 4” straight, angle, rolled angle or +$145 Titanium angle; +$18 Gasket

CorkSport
MS6 Power Series

MS6 Gen1 TBE

MS3 Gen1 CBE

MS3 Gen1 TBE

MS3 Gen2 CBE

MS3 Gen2 Single Exit

21%: 80mm pipes, high flow silencer / muffler or 100mm single exit exhaust saving 22 lbs, 2 year warranty, ovaled 80mm tips
Available from:
MS6
CorkSport MS6
MS3 Gen1
CorkSport MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
CorkSport MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Yes) Power Series $699.99; TBE $1,217.99 Resonated RP or +$90 High Flow Cat
MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Power Series CBE $449.99; TBE $807.99
MS3 Gen2 (Yes) TBE $1,197.99; CBE $749.99; ABE $450.99; Single Exit $549.99

Resonator Delete
See TP / RP in: http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...-thread-99627/

CP-E
MS6 Austenite

MS6 Single CBE

MS3 Gen1 Nexus

MS3 Gen2 Triton

MS3 Gen2 Tips

3” SS, dual resonators, dual 4” tips
Available from:
MS6
CP-E MS6
MS3 Gen1
CP-E MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2
CP-E MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Yes) Austenite $1,061.75; Single CBE $726.90 +$100 Resonator; Stock or 3” DP
MS3 Gen1 (Yes) Nexus $720.51 Tips: Polished, Titan, +$100 Black Chrome
MS3 Gen2 (Yes) Triton $882.52 Tips: Standard, Polished or +$50 Black; +$150 12” Oval Muffler

Magnaflow Dual Split Rear Exit CBE
MS6 CBE

MS3 Gen2 CBE

2.5" (might actually be 2¼” at restriction) pipe; 4" tips, mandrel bent piping and a lifetime MagnaFlow warranty
WARNING: may not align well with UR RP / TP (leaks, carbon build-up - rfinkle2)
Available from:
MS6
Magnaflow MS6
MS3 Gen2
Magnaflow MS3 Gen2
MS6 (Yes) $716.95, MS3 Gen1 (Not found), MS3 Gen2 (Yes) $717.95

OBX
MS3 Gen1

MS3 Gen2

T-304 SS, lifetime warranty of factory defects, CNC machined flanges, DUAL-TIG
Available from:
MS3 Gen1
OBX CBE MS3 Gen1
MS3 Gen2

OBX CBE MS3 Gen2

OBX CBE MS3 Gen2
OBX CBE MS3 Gen2

[Raider]

Fucking awesome! How's the knee?

[supertubesocks]

Originally Posted by Raider Fucking awesome! How's the knee?

Hurts but the pills and sympathy is nice.

[ustcmrjeff]

Installed the Corksport Turbo back Exhaust system on my '07 MS3 but the o2 sensors were pretty much welded into place, and when attempting to remove them they pretty much shattered. I was hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned, and where would be the best place to get an inexpensive o2 sensor.

[DickFitzwell]

Originally Posted by ustcmrjeff Installed the Corksport Turbo back Exhaust system on my '07 MS3 but the o2 sensors were pretty much welded into place, and when attempting to remove them they pretty much shattered. I was hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned, and where would be the best place to get an inexpensive o2 sensor.

couple posts in and brownie is thread jacking already... donate, check the VIP f/s threads or go to an auto store like autozone...

[Stephen hot]

hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned

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[DickFitzwell]

Originally Posted by Stephen hot hoping to find out if a new wide-band o2 sensor would be better if I plan on getting it tuned

for a CBE??

[sidekick]

Does anyone have pictures of the CNT catback installed? I want to see how this 30 degree exit looks.

[Mortose]

Originally Posted by boost_addict Does anyone have pictures of the CNT catback installed? I want to see how this 30 degree exit looks.

Here is a pic of mine:

[Modality14]

any idea when the greddy type rs cbe debuts?

[Raider]

2 weeks....lol!

Seriously, no idea, have not heard of it. I do love my 3" corksport.

[Atomic41]

I just want some feedback about the CNT catback ?

- Is it drone ?
- How much louder than OEM ?
- Much bubly than the oem (subaru like)
- Is it much louder than OEM at 3000rpm at 60mph on highway ?
- Do you have an idea to put the tip straight instead than 30 degree angle

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 I just want some feedback about the CNT catback ? - Is it drone ? - How much louder than OEM ? - Much bubly than the oem (subaru like) - Is it much louder than OEM at 3000rpm at 60mph on highway ? - Do you have an idea to put the tip straight instead than 30 degree angle

1. A little, but not half as much as my straight piped exhaust did.
2. Idle=very quiet
2-2.5k cruise= pretty quiet, no real drone.
3k cruise= only a tiny bit more drone than stock
wot= Racecar
3. Yes
4. See #3
5. Cut and weld

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 1. A little, but not half as much as my straight piped exhaust did. 2. Idle=very quiet 2-2.5k cruise= pretty quiet, no real drone. 3k cruise= only a tiny bit more drone than stock wot= Racecar 3. Yes 4. See #3 5. Cut and weld

So it's perfect fit for you ... no regret ?

[Koke382]

I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done.

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by Koke382 I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done.

Nice thanks you have speed3 black like mine so it will be helpful

I'm waiting news from you

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 So it's perfect fit for you ... no regret ?

For the price it can't be beat.

Tapa

[Koke382]

Fuck yeah this TBE is a deal even the CBE

[Atomic41]

Can I heat the hanger to remove the 30 degree angle and bring it straight line and cold it to stay in place when I like it ?

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 Can I heat the hanger to remove the 30 degree angle and bring it straight line and cold it to stay in place when I like it ?

Yes or no ?

[smoogs12]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 Yes or no ?

Not really.

Its the tip the creates the angle, not the hanger.

Im sure that an exhaust shop could cut it and weld in back on straight for pretty cheap.

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by smoogs12 Not really. Its the tip the creates the angle, not the hanger. Im sure that an exhaust shop could cut it and weld in back on straight for pretty cheap.

Thanks man !

[Mortose]

Here are 2 vids for the CNT Setup.

2008 Mazdaspeed3 CNT Racing Exhaust - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmsXB...iDrDQOf-8iy_-A

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by Koke382 I just got the CNT turboback and im getting instaled this weekend i'll post up pics when done.

News from your setup ?

[Koke382]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 News from your setup ?

Instaled this weekend at Nator, took a while cuz we had no lift just some jack stands lol
had to cut the old exhaust off all in all loved it, sounds nice, not too loud just real deep, didnt instal the catless DP because we were too drunk and tired lol but thats next.

[Koke382]

Here are some pics

[Atomic41]

I hesitated between CNT and Corksport ...

because I want the one who has the more deeper sound, bublier (no drone) , and close enough quiet comparable at the oem.

which one you take ?

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by Koke382 Here are some pics

Are you able to post picture on the right orientation and with clean a clean view from the back of the car please ?

[Koke382]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 Are you able to post picture on the right orientation and with clean a clean view from the back of the car please ?

yea ill take some once im home, i love it it sounds stock just deep deeep, once u flor it it gets loider but keeps the deep tone and yea it sounds "bubbly" at times, with a test pipe/race pipe or dp im sure it will be even louder

[Mortose]

CNT exhaust (sorry for the huge pic)

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by Koke382 yea ill take some once im home, i love it it sounds stock just deep deeep, once u flor it it gets loider but keeps the deep tone and yea it sounds "bubbly" at times, with a test pipe/race pipe or dp im sure it will be even louder

Thanks man i think I will order tonight

Originally Posted by Mortose

yEah but black car with better angle it will be nice

[Raymond]

IMO Racing Beat FTW. Really love the sound in the vid. Mine is getting installed at this moment. Didn't like the twin tips though, so I ordered the single tip version.

I'll post pics in the next few days.

[Atomic41]

Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ?

is it drone ?
much louder than oem ?
Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ?

[Atomic41]

Originally Posted by Atomic41 Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ? is it drone ? much louder than oem ? Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ?

Nobody ???

[Atomic41]

Corksport catback genone owner !

Can I have your feedback about your catback ?

Like a daily driver is it nice ?
Absolutely not annoying during higway trip ?

[Atomic41]

Somebody here drive the cobb exhaust on his 07-09 Speed3 ?

is it drone ?
much louder than oem ?
Do you have some pic from behind your car to see what is like on car ?

[Vader]

^^ Buy the CNT.

Save money.

You're way over thinking this.

Yes I have it (Full TBE, catted)

It is less drone over stock.

At idle it is silent.

At WOT, it is sex.

That is all.

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[smoogs12]

^ ^Agreed.

You are putting way too much thought into something that is should be a relatively simple choice.

+1 cnt

Tapa

[CWP_MS3]

Discuss Here: http://www.mazdaspeedforum.org/forum/foru...thread-109427/