2013 Build because ZZB

[andrew1501]

o hai

[MattyP617]

Originally Posted by andrew1501 o hai

lol you got groaned. brownie fgt. see you in a few hours < 3 letz build u an engine papi

[MattyP617]

to those who want a real update and not me talking to my roommate(disclaimer..we're both straight)... last weekend myself and he who was groaned^ finished up my meth.. first revision on that made 475/442 (VD) on 26 tapering to 28 and 15*. Feels great, engine itself out of boost feels very strong and responsive.

The only problem I have at all is 5th gear. only goes into 5th maybe 1 out of 10 times. After reading it seems like a shift fork pad... but what is strange it didn't do this at all before the engine/trans were pulled.

[speedfreak44]

I wonder if something got bent when pulling the motor. Check the cables and try adjusting them?

[andrew1501]

SpeedRebirth can eat me. I've done more than my fair share of work on this engine, just found the thread. sup fgts

Originally Posted by speedfreak44 I wonder if something got bent when pulling the motor. Check the cables and try adjusting them?

i've physically tried to engage the gear from the trans, syncho appears to be sheared. the locking collar is sliding over the synchro, however never makes it to the gear. it's like hitting a wall. we'll pull it soon and check out the damage.

[MattyP617]

Update after some tuning. She's reacting amazingly... Turbo as well, this turbo is doing ridiculously well for everything I've heard about "GT" turbos... It's still yawning. Got some toyo R888 and let me tell you... They are Jesus... All teh trakshuns. Still have a solid amount of tuning headroom. Had that bish^ in the car if you're wondering about weight

[levon.mark]

Updates? I think I saw/heard something about you slapping in a new transmission ?! o.O

[MattyP617]

Originally Posted by levon.mark Updates? I think I saw/heard something about you slapping in a new transmission ?! o.O

Yupp, have the old out right now. Stuck in 6th gear.. bent/broken shift fork is my guess. other than that, had some spark blow out.. got some new plugs and i went to the itv24s. gonna get the coilovers put on since we have the front suspension out anyway... been procrastinating that forever. should be in the best form it's been in once this is all done.

[MattyP617]

Updates:
-Took the old trans apart... shift fork is bent. that was my issue.

- New trans is in and has been for a couple weeks now. works great. Thanks to the 2011 who gave its life to a tree so I could have teh shiftz again. RIP.

-Dyno'd the car on LSXkilr's dyno at chux trucks meet in KC... Numbers were 559.7whp and 531.3wtq. will post video as soon as I have it up.

[littleloogy]

Hey, what oil were you on when you rings shit the bed?


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[dale_gribble]

Keep an eye on those ITV24s. Mine fouled in very short order. Started with occasional stumble/miss at WOT and then cutout got really bad. I think there's a reason nobody runs 2 step cooler plugs on these engines.

[MattyP617]

Originally Posted by dale_gribble Keep an eye on those ITV24s. Mine fouled in very short order. Started with occasional stumble/miss at WOT and then cutout got really bad. I think there's a reason nobody runs 2 step cooler plugs on these engines.

ITV22's left me with horrific spark blow out.. as soon as I went to 24 car felt alive again... ill replace them bi-weekly if I have to idc. my car is a choosy bastard so if its happy with these then... alright

Originally Posted by littleloogy Hey, what oil were you on when you rings shit the bed? Sent from my iPhone 6

Pennzoil platinum 530. Definitely not the culprit... culprit was detonation.... we're talking nuclear style

[littleloogy]

Oh no! Boom. Thanks


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[MattyP617]

YouTube Short

YouTube Short

Link to dyno video. Tried to embed by phone said "nah"
Edit: guess it did work.... Weird

[865ms3]

how are you putting all that torque down? what tires are you running?

[SuckSqueezBangBlow]

Originally Posted by MattyP617 Alright back story is, my rings committed suicide and cyl 3 decided it didn't want to be part of the family anymore. So I decided to build the piss out of it. The block was not vented, although the rings caused some serious yuck on the cylinder walls. I had 2 options, fresh block or get mine sleeved. So I got it sleeved. They are darton sleeves. And heres my list of shitz .

What was the Mileage when you went BOOM and mods/reason? You got me all scared now...

Originally Posted by dale_gribble Keep an eye on those ITV24s. Mine fouled in very short order. Started with occasional stumble/miss at WOT and then cutout got really bad. I think there's a reason nobody runs 2 step cooler plugs on these engines.

Oh man.. now im terrified... I am running ITV 22's (Denso) which I thought were step 2 colder. Tuner (Nishan) told me to run these on my 91 and E85 tune. I trust him he is very smart but so are you guys...

Suggestions/reasons to swtich? What am I missing!

[MattyP617]

Originally Posted by SuckSqueezBangBlow What was the Mileage when you went BOOM and mods/reason? You got me all scared now... I was squeezing the juice out of the car... It was hot as hell out.. 100+ and I was running a tune that I did in like 40* weather.. No meth.. Too much timing.. Was still very new to this turbo world and wasn't paying attention and boom. Oh man.. now im terrified... I am running ITV 22's (Denso) which I thought were step 2 colder. Tuner (Nishan) told me to run these on my 91 and E85 tune. I trust him he is very smart but so are you guys... Suggestions/reasons to swtich? What am I missing!

You'll be fine. Nishan knows his stuff. I'm moving a shit ton of air and pumping a shit ton of meth in there. ITV24s have helped me a lot, but itv22s should be more than enough for most people

Originally Posted by 865ms3 how are you putting all that torque down? what tires are you running?

Toyo R888. They are holy.

[Castillo817]

For the bump, but I'll be rebuilding my engine pretty soon or maybe build a spare long block. Did you ever do a leak down test? I believe cyl 3 rings are going bye bye.

[Djohns]

Glad you figured this out, she looks good and I love the wheels. Quick question, If you had decided to stay the BNR route and build the bottom end would you have still done head work such as valve springs? I plan on going BNR s4 and shooting for 425ish hp and am unclear if ill need valve springs or not.

[Easter Bunny]

Spend the money on port work before springs.

[Yatta]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Spend the money on port work before springs.

derail warning...

Do our springs/valves even float in stock rev range? (I am not disagreeing with you, in fact I totally agree to stay away from the springs, just curious) Given all the problems our platform has already with VVT; putting more strain on the valve train would seem to be that last thing I would want to do. OP pinned/keyed his crank/cam so doing so would likely not be an issue for him.

[Easter Bunny]

Its been a while since I read about it but one of the upgraded springs that are available for us aren't actually stronger than stock. If I were building i probably wouldn't bother.

[Djohns]

Originally Posted by Easter Bunny Spend the money on port work before springs.

Exactly what I had thought but wanted to make sure. Guy at work who is very knowledgeable about cars (not our platform) kept telling me I'll need valve springs. I tried explaining to him how with stiffer springs it would wear on our vvt and stretch the chain but he was persistent on saying I needed them. Just had to make sure. Thank you.

[Easter Bunny]

Mazda knew what they were doing when they designed this motor. With rods and fuel the rest of its good for at least 500 whp

[ButtholeRedMS3]

And if we're looking for more than 500whp? New valve springs to prevent float at higher rpms?

[Nitro]

Now if only we had AWD

[ButtholeRedMS3]

I do

[Nitro]

I am jealous......Speed 3 is an awesome car but big power and no traction is not as fun.

[ButtholeRedMS3]

Which is exactly why I sold my gen pu as much as I loved it

[Nitro]

I hear you. I think I will follow that idea in the new year.

[Easter Bunny]

Originally Posted by ButtholeRedMS3 And if we're looking for more than 500whp? New valve springs to prevent float at higher rpms?

depends on how high you plan on spinning it, stock should be fine to 7k

[MattyP617]

Hello nearly a year later, this car is gonna be back sooner than later.... for those that don't know.. i spun a rod bearing. just one more addition to the saga. tearing down shortly. hopefully it won't be that serious. gonna make some changes to the set up though. when I'm decisive on said changes, i will post some updates.

If someone can verify this theory even a little, it would be appreciated... Does any experienced person on here think that me NOT doing a BSD led to an oiling issue? i ask this because i heard it from a fellow speed guy. that, and legitimately almost no one can wrap their head around wtf happened here