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Matt@DamondMotorsports 08-07-2013 01:00 PM

Stock turbo, oil restrictor banjo bolt
 
I'm working with another member on MSF to provide ppl with an easy low cost solution for the common k04 smoking turbo. This banjo bolt has been drilled to proper specs to restrict the flow of oil from the turbo oil feed. Now includes OEM spec copper crush washers!

I have plenty in stock right now at $30 free US shipping. If you're interested, please send me a PM or email matt@damondmotorsports.com you can also order directly from here: http://damondmotorsports.com/collect...tor-banjo-bolt

Shipping/handling info:

State side:
Free!

Up north:
$2 additional for First Class Mail (1-3weeks)
$15 additional for Priority Mail (6-10days)
$30 additional for Express Mail (3-5days)

Across the pond:
$5 additional for First Class Mail (1-3weeks)
$20 additional for Priority Mail (6-10days)
$45 additional for Express Mail (3-5days)


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Any questions, feel free to post up!

manila 08-07-2013 01:01 PM

@coopsspeed;

Keko 08-07-2013 01:02 PM

Awesome. I was wondering what I would do if I ever need this, since bnoon isn't making them anymore.

seshomaru7 08-07-2013 07:26 PM

Purchased! I'm extremely lucky sometimes! Just started looking for a seller of this today at 3pm...thread started 2pm. Will post up with smoke results after install!

Raider 08-08-2013 06:22 AM

That is awesome. Thanks for making these!

maisonvi 08-08-2013 07:38 AM

I must say. these do look nice.

IamJamen 08-08-2013 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by maisonvi (Post 2201319)
I must say. these do look nice.

I personally know the machinist who made these and he is definitely a magician.

rfinkle2 08-08-2013 11:49 AM

Bump for Matt and some really different but much needed parts for the Mazdaspeeds.

hnda etr 08-08-2013 01:41 PM

@BEAST MODE MS3;

seshomaru7 08-10-2013 01:34 PM

Product installed and smoke stopped almost immediately. Will continue testing but for now things are looking good!

speed23 08-11-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seshomaru7 (Post 2205493)
Product installed and smoke stopped almost immediately. Will continue testing but for now things are looking good!

Good to know. I am going to buy one. One question though...are you running a BNR stage 3 or k04?

England15j 08-11-2013 01:15 PM

@Worbit;

seshomaru7 08-11-2013 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speed23 (Post 2206478)
Good to know. I am going to buy one. One question though...are you running a BNR stage 3 or k04?

Running the BNR S3 now. Had horrible smoke with the K04 so I assumed it was the turbo after some diagnostics. Switched out and learned this warning. The BNR turbos are NOT a fix for the excessive turbo oil pressure problem.

ispypsi 08-13-2013 12:35 PM

Has there been any testing with this or the bnoon bolt about longevity concerns, as far as the bolt restricting too much? Just curious, but I guess with 130K on mine, if I can just get it to stop vaporizing two quarts of oil every 5,500 miles and give me another 10-15K out of it, that's good enough :D

johnbarr00 08-13-2013 01:01 PM

just pm'd to buy. waiting for confirmation of stock, as well as total price with shipping

hnda etr 08-13-2013 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ispypsi (Post 2209629)
Has there been any testing with this or the bnoon bolt about longevity concerns, as far as the bolt restricting too much? Just curious, but I guess with 130K on mine, if I can just get it to stop vaporizing two quarts of oil every 5,500 miles and give me another 10-15K out of it, that's good enough :D

If i remember correctly, bnoon contacted turbo manufacturer(s) to get the recommended restriction hole size...

speed23 08-13-2013 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnbarr00 (Post 2209682)
just pm'd to buy. waiting for confirmation of stock, as well as total price with shipping

I just bought one. Its another $6 for shipping so $31 total.

seshomaru7 08-13-2013 06:14 PM

Longevity is a good concern to address. I'm sure some people have been running the bnoon bolt longer than this one and I haven't heard any problems so far.

Fatpig78 08-18-2013 07:48 PM

thank you for the info guys, i also want to check in with longevity, with less oil coming out will that mean more heat/wear?

Texas Speed Demon Fag 08-18-2013 09:12 PM

I don't have any issues at 20K but as soon as I see anything I will get this...or maybe now...hmmm.

Fatpig78 08-27-2013 06:25 PM

do you guys still have more?

Vteclol 08-28-2013 08:05 AM

I sent you 31 dollars via paypal and was wondering if you have received it.?

Worbit 09-03-2013 06:23 AM

Pretty excited to get this bolt this week! I'll post up once it gets here safely Matt...

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Worbit 09-04-2013 12:15 AM

Its here!!!

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sukhyunx624 09-04-2013 01:19 AM

Hey Matt

could you PM me? had a question about a order i placed awhile ago.

Thanks!

thedoctor 09-10-2013 10:33 AM

Got it, install took about 1 hour. Shipoing was super fast ordered it Friday got here(ny) on Monday.
Snapped one of the bolts that hold the bpv. So I haven't gotten to test it much. Just picked up new bpv bolts ill update once car is running again.

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Mandinca 12-17-2013 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thedoctor (Post 2249013)
Got it, install took about 1 hour. Shipoing was super fast ordered it Friday got here(ny) on Monday.
Snapped one of the bolts that hold the bpv. So I haven't gotten to test it much. Just picked up new bpv bolts ill update once car is running again.

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Just curious - how did you make out with the bolt ?
I just replaced my motor and put in a catless DP and internals - now I'm smoking like Cheech and Chong, even with idle at 950 and Rotella....

hnda etr 12-17-2013 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandinca (Post 2382065)
Just curious - how did you make out with the bolt ?
I just replaced my motor and put in a catless DP and internals - now I'm smoking like Cheech and Chong, even with idle at 950 and Rotella....

You're going to have to get one and test it yourself. Some people (like myself) got rid of the smoking with the use of a properly sized restrictor bolt and some people didn't. It seems to be a case-by-case fix. It's a relatively inexpensive fix and if it doesn't work for you, you can turn around and sell it...

Mandinca 12-17-2013 01:27 PM

Yeah, I kinda figured it might be case by case. I made a bnoon bolt a few days ago but haven’t put it in yet. I guess I’ll have to suck up the cold weather and get it done.

rfinkle2 12-24-2013 08:36 AM

Another thing worth checking is how high you guys are filling your car on the dipstick. I know that recently one of our members had an oil change done @ a dealership and not only did they put 5w-20 in the car, they overfilled it by a quart.

The turbo started smoking immediately.

Overfilling the oil can cause an increase in the pressure on the seals, AND worse things could happen down the road.

NuminouSpeed 12-24-2013 08:51 AM

So, would a BNR need this too (cuz K04 hybrid, essentially)? I've read a lot about them, and haven't seen restrictors being used, but I want to be prepared for my upcoming install.

Bryan himself says "and no more smoke!" about the BNR, so I don't think it's an issue, but you guys know much more than me.

rfinkle2 12-24-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by NuminouSpeed (Post 2389457)
So, would a BNR need this too (cuz K04 hybrid, essentially)? I've read a lot about them, and haven't seen restrictors being used, but I want to be prepared for my upcoming install.

Bryan himself says "and no more smoke!" about the BNR, so I don't think it's an issue, but you guys know much more than me.

You would be fine man. The restrictor is great for older k04 turbos up there in miles.

I'm finished ruining your sales now Matt. LOL. Sorry man.

For the record, the restrictor bolts are very good for turbos with bad seals. I've seen the combo of bolt and Rotella work on quite a few cars.

Matt@DamondMotorsports 12-24-2013 05:50 PM

Hahaha thanks Rob!

I've had a few customers with smokey BNR's purchase bolts.

Yeah, I heard about that recent dealer oil change disaster. I've seen that happen way too many times.

On a related note, my MS6's turbo is near death and burns oil like crazy. It especially doesn't help that I topped off the oil recently with 1/2 a quart too much. NCE though, it'll burn it back below the full mark lol.

Mandinca 12-26-2013 09:39 AM

I wonder if mine is doing the same thing.
I just switched motor, still using a rebuilt K04 from h.h.skinny that didn't smoke before I put on a catless DP (and new(ish) motor).
I switched to Rotella, put in my own bolt to Bnoon specs and raised idle to 950 then again to 1100.....still smokes like Cheech Marin.
The only thing that stops it is my weird idle issue that I have. If i'm stopped at a light etc and my car is in gear the idle bumps to about 1500 on it's own. As soon as I put it in neutral it drops to the preset 1100. If I let it idle up at 1500 in gear then I get CEL for "unexpected high idle" or something like that.....but....it doesn't smoke.
Of course, sitting at lights revving at 1500 rpm with the clutch pressed can't be a good thing.
My oil is below the top mark on the stick so I'm thinking my seals are going (they're only 6 months old) or IDKW is going on. Thinking of adding a Magnaflo universal cat to the DP to see what happens, just don't want to lose that turbo spool I just gained from removing the OEM DP. :-)

thedoctor 02-26-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandinca (Post 2382065)
Just curious - how did you make out with the bolt ?
I just replaced my motor and put in a catless DP and internals - now I'm smoking like Cheech and Chong, even with idle at 950 and Rotella....

so far so good. i did get a bit of smoke a few times, but it no longer smells like im burning thru a qt a day and aside from the 2 times that i seen a bit of smoke after that, its been good.

Mandinca 02-26-2014 10:06 PM

I made my own and put it in, still smokes like a MF. I've bought one and will try that as a last resort when it gets a bit warmer in CT. Other than that I have to put a cat on the DP to see if that does anything.

maisonvi 02-27-2014 05:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandinca (Post 2471438)
I made my own and put it in, still smokes like a MF. I've bought one and will try that as a last resort when it gets a bit warmer in CT. Other than that I have to put a cat on the DP to see if that does anything.

At some point if your seals as that toasted, you might just have to replace the turbo. Thats how my stock one was. Thicker oil, restrictor bolt and still smoked (granted I was catless)

Raider 02-27-2014 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maisonvi (Post 2471650)
At some point if your seals as that toasted, you might just have to replace the turbo. Thats how my stock one was. Thicker oil, restrictor bolt and still smoked (granted I was catless)

That is my understanding as well.

Hammology 02-27-2014 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mandinca (Post 2471438)
I made my own and put it in, still smokes like a MF. I've bought one and will try that as a last resort when it gets a bit warmer in CT. Other than that I have to put a cat on the DP to see if that does anything.

When is the last time you did a compression test?

Mandinca 02-27-2014 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammology (Post 2471660)
When is the last time you did a compression test?

Don't even go there. I just replaced the motor with a used genpu with 3500 miles on it.
Besides, I'm not "using oil" in any significant quantity. I just finished 3000 miles on the new motor and the oil moved one "x" down the dipstick. What's that, less than half a quart ?
I'm draining it this weekend so will measure it but it's not significant I'm sure.

@maisonvi; @Raider;
The turbo is a rebuilt K04 from hhsk1nny. I've run it for about 15-20K but only went catless when I put the replacement engine in - that's when the smoking started.
Assuming my old engine, which used a qt every 200 miles, was either fucked at the rings or the valve seals, would just replacing the engine with one that worked properly suddenly cause a failing turbo to manifest itself with smoke or would that just not happen and the addition of being catless was the main culprit ?

I know there are two trains of thought on this subject. One is that the stock catted DP creates enough back pressure to help the seals and the other is that the stock cats hide the smoke. Magnaflow sell a slip fit cat for $100 which I would cut into my DP if I thought it would make a difference, other than that I may as well go back to the stock catted DP….not really an option although I do still have it.

With the smoking, I've noticed that it doesn't always do it. Most of the time it starts after about 30 seconds but there have been a couple of times when I let it idle for 5 minutes and got no smoke. Weird.


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